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RE: Tulsa is only school under consideration for 12th spot in America 12
(03-07-2013 03:04 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Invite for 2014 or 2015?

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...ources-say

Probably depends on Navy. So I guess 2015.
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RE: Tulsa is only school under consideration for 12th spot in America 12
I'd say 2014 would make sense for Tulsa, if they are adding VCU as everything but football. That gets them up to 12 in 2014 for basketball, and then in 2015, 12 for football and basketball..
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RE: Tulsa is only school under consideration for 12th spot in America 12
(03-07-2013 03:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I'd say 2014 would make sense for Tulsa, if they are adding VCU as everything but football. That gets them up to 12 in 2014 for basketball, and then in 2015, 12 for football and basketball..

Where did you get VCU? I haven't heard anything on that.
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RE: Tulsa is only school under consideration for 12th spot in America 12
there's been talk on their board about that as a possibility- to pair with Navy's football.
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RE: Tulsa is only school under consideration for 12th spot in America 12
(03-07-2013 03:17 PM)S11 Wrote:  
(03-07-2013 03:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I'd say 2014 would make sense for Tulsa, if they are adding VCU as everything but football. That gets them up to 12 in 2014 for basketball, and then in 2015, 12 for football and basketball..

Where did you get VCU? I haven't heard anything on that.

Some folks are just putting 2 and 2 together assuming they COULD come on board to offset Navy is Navy stays put. I'm personally IN FAVOR of it if we could get the rest of the conference on board. We need as much respectability as possible in at least 1 of the major sports. TV revenue for a nonFB member is miniscule. Also consider the A10 is about to get gutted so I'd bet they'd be open to a move.
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Navy is not going to make the jump
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With the logic that has permeated Providence I would not doubt that Slippery Rock and Austin Peah are on the clock
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RE: Tulsa is only school under consideration for 12th spot in America 12
(03-07-2013 03:22 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(03-07-2013 03:17 PM)S11 Wrote:  
(03-07-2013 03:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I'd say 2014 would make sense for Tulsa, if they are adding VCU as everything but football. That gets them up to 12 in 2014 for basketball, and then in 2015, 12 for football and basketball..

Where did you get VCU? I haven't heard anything on that.

Some folks are just putting 2 and 2 together assuming they COULD come on board to offset Navy is Navy stays put. I'm personally IN FAVOR of it if we could get the rest of the conference on board. We need as much respectability as possible in at least 1 of the major sports. TV revenue for a nonFB member is miniscule. Also consider the A10 is about to get gutted so I'd bet they'd be open to a move.

Yep. And the money that VCU would get(lets say 500k- with Navy getting 1.5 mil) for TV is still ahead of what they are getting in the A10.
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RE: Tulsa is only school under consideration for 12th spot in America 12
(03-07-2013 03:41 PM)Eagleweiser Wrote:  Navy is not going to make the jump

I'm ok with that. It would open a spot up for you guys...hopefully.
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RE: Tulsa is only school under consideration for 12th spot in America 12
(03-07-2013 03:22 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(03-07-2013 03:17 PM)S11 Wrote:  
(03-07-2013 03:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I'd say 2014 would make sense for Tulsa, if they are adding VCU as everything but football. That gets them up to 12 in 2014 for basketball, and then in 2015, 12 for football and basketball..

Where did you get VCU? I haven't heard anything on that.

Some folks are just putting 2 and 2 together assuming they COULD come on board to offset Navy is Navy stays put. I'm personally IN FAVOR of it if we could get the rest of the conference on board. We need as much respectability as possible in at least 1 of the major sports. TV revenue for a nonFB member is miniscule. Also consider the A10 is about to get gutted so I'd bet they'd be open to a move.

I think a non-fb addition makes sense for travel costs but would VCU come?

Who all is still going to be in the A-10? I would think that with Creighton gone it would be easier to pluck Wichita State out of the Mo Valley. They make a nice travel partner for Tulsa, SMU/UH, Memphis/Tulane for a western division. Then in the east you have everyone else in what was the Big East football footprint.
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RE: Tulsa is only school under consideration for 12th spot in America 12
(03-07-2013 03:47 PM)S11 Wrote:  
(03-07-2013 03:22 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(03-07-2013 03:17 PM)S11 Wrote:  
(03-07-2013 03:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I'd say 2014 would make sense for Tulsa, if they are adding VCU as everything but football. That gets them up to 12 in 2014 for basketball, and then in 2015, 12 for football and basketball..

Where did you get VCU? I haven't heard anything on that.

Some folks are just putting 2 and 2 together assuming they COULD come on board to offset Navy is Navy stays put. I'm personally IN FAVOR of it if we could get the rest of the conference on board. We need as much respectability as possible in at least 1 of the major sports. TV revenue for a nonFB member is miniscule. Also consider the A10 is about to get gutted so I'd bet they'd be open to a move.

I think a non-fb addition makes sense for travel costs but would VCU come?

Who all is still going to be in the A-10?

A10 is going to be blasted...
Already
Charlotte- to CUSA
Temple- to America 12
Xavier, Butler to Big East
rumors of St Louis and Dayton to Big East 2014

If VCU was offered they would almost for sure make the jump I think.
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(03-07-2013 03:46 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  
(03-07-2013 03:41 PM)Eagleweiser Wrote:  Navy is not going to make the jump

I'm ok with that. It would open a spot up for you guys...hopefully.

I expect Navy will stay on board. I think they like playing in a football conference with SMU and Tulane along with nearby Temple.

They don't have to adjust the date of the Navy-Army game or anything by playing as part of the A12 so long as Army is NOT in the conference which looks like is going to be the case in the future.
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RE: Tulsa is only school under consideration for 12th spot in America 12
I think Navy enjoys it's ability to schedule its games based on who they want to play. Their deal with CBS sports pays more than they would get in the American Pie 12 already and I think they covet continuing some of their normal games more so than playing SMU, Tulane and Temple.
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(03-07-2013 04:18 PM)Eagleweiser Wrote:  I think Navy enjoys it's ability to schedule its games based on who they want to play. Their deal with CBS sports pays more than they would get in the American Pie 12 already and I think they covet continuing some of their normal games more so than playing SMU, Tulane and Temple.

1 thing- the gap between BCS money as indy and BCS money in the new conference is HUGE. indy's aren't getting much of anything. like 100-200k I think.
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(03-07-2013 03:42 PM)Eagleweiser Wrote:  With the logic that has permeated Providence I would not doubt that Slippery Rock and Austin Peah are on the clock


They can get Jim Lampley to announce the Slippery Rock score on an old manual scoreboard at halftime during televised games.
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The only place where VCU is being talked about as a possibility for this league is in the imaginations of people on this board. No way will such a move be made until and unless Navy is securely in place because there is still a very big window for them to change their minds. Even so, I think going with Tulsa and Old Dominion as full members 11 and 12 make the most sense, along with Navy and UMass -- since Army keeps saying no -- for football-onlies 13 and 14. As for Stever20, some people are starting to wonder if he is a bigger fan of VCU than Georgetown, as he has been pushing incessantly for VCU to the C7 and refuses to understand why such a move is unlikely. The dumb arguments have gotten so bad on there that moderators have started shutting down threads due to their being derailed by VCU. It looks like VCU joining the footballers is the new push.
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(03-07-2013 04:15 PM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  
(03-07-2013 03:46 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  
(03-07-2013 03:41 PM)Eagleweiser Wrote:  Navy is not going to make the jump

I'm ok with that. It would open a spot up for you guys...hopefully.

I expect Navy will stay on board. I think they like playing in a football conference with SMU and Tulane along with nearby Temple.

They don't have to adjust the date of the Navy-Army game or anything by playing as part of the A12 so long as Army is NOT in the conference which looks like is going to be the case in the future.

I think that Navy is solid too. I think that they like being in a conference that the know that they can be competitive in. In addition to Temple; Navy is only about 200 some odd miles away from ECU and I wouldn't be shocked to hear that they actually like that game.
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This new conference if called Metro, screams to add USM. VCU and USM shared Metro tradition.
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(03-07-2013 04:35 PM)Lolly Popp Wrote:  The only place where VCU is being talked about as a possibility for this league is in the imaginations of people on this board.

I GUARANTEE you that you're 100% wrong with this statement.
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