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ND drops Arizona State from 2014 schedule
I was wrong, I thought that they would keep that game.

It was supposed to be played at Arizona State. The 2013 game is an ND home game "off site" at Cowboys Stadium in Dallas (on NBC).

Jack Swarbrick is busy making room for those ACC football matchups.

Todd Graham is not happy, I bet.......

http://arizonasports.com/44/1624588/Repo...m-schedule
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RE: ND drops Arizona State from 2014 schedule
Thanks for posting, Terry. Glad Notre Dame is keeping up their end of the bargain, though I had little doubt they wouldn't.

Other than Arizona State, is this schedule up to date?

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-14/indep...hedule.php

They have at least two openings, and 'Cuse and Pitt already scheduled for 2014.
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RE: ND drops Arizona State from 2014 schedule
As a Pitt fan, anything that makes Todd Graham unhappy makes me happy.
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(04-05-2013 10:58 PM)MKPitt Wrote:  As a Pitt fan, anything that makes Todd Graham unhappy makes me happy.

He won't even be the coach there in 2014. He'll have family somewhere else in the land.
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RE: ND drops Arizona State from 2014 schedule
Surprised. I really thought they'd drop (or simply reschedule) Rice and Temple. However, I guess this way no one loses a true home game... still need one more opening for 2014 (gotta be Rice, right?)
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RE: ND drops Arizona State from 2014 schedule
It has been a bad week for Todd. No Rushell Shell and now this. Poor baby, perhaps there is something to the Karma idea after all.
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RE: ND drops Arizona State from 2014 schedule
This is what I have heard from ND's side of things (no guarantee it is correct):


The remaining 3 games in 2014 that the ACC and Notre Dame are discussing would be NC State at home, Virginia Tech at home and at Clemson.

That would leave a current schedule like this:

Michigan
USC
Clemson
Stanford
Virginia Tech
Pitt
Northwestern
Syracuse
Purdue
Navy
Temple
Rice
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RE: ND drops Arizona State from 2014 schedule
(04-06-2013 08:51 AM)TerryD Wrote:  This is what I have heard from ND's side of things (no guarantee it is correct):


The remaining 3 games in 2014 that the ACC and Notre Dame are discussing would be NC State at home, Virginia Tech at home and at Clemson.

That would leave a current schedule like this:

Michigan
USC
Clemson
Stanford
Virginia Tech
Pitt
Northwestern
Syracuse
Purdue
Navy
Temple
Rice

Sweet! I hope your info is correct. Then VT will have Ohio State and ND OOC. Although both will be on the road.....
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RE: ND drops Arizona State from 2014 schedule
(04-05-2013 10:35 PM)TerryD Wrote:  I was wrong, I thought that they would keep that game.

It was supposed to be played at Arizona State. The 2013 game is an ND home game "off site" at Cowboys Stadium in Dallas (on NBC).

Jack Swarbrick is busy making room for those ACC football matchups.

Todd Graham is not happy, I bet.......

http://arizonasports.com/44/1624588/Repo...m-schedule


I love it... on their scout site there are three threads talking about how Pitt is a mid major, we suck, we are butt hurt and we don't even deserve to be in the ACC or even the AAC.

Then they have another thread whining about ND not respecting them. The past few days I am starting to think that ASU fans are the nastiest in college football? Worse than WVU and thats sayin something!
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(04-06-2013 06:40 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Surprised. I really thought they'd drop (or simply reschedule) Rice and Temple. However, I guess this way no one loses a true home game... still need one more opening for 2014 (gotta be Rice, right?)

Arizona State loses ND coming to their place in 2014.

The 2013 game is set for Jerry Jones' Palace.
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RE: ND drops Arizona State from 2014 schedule
(04-06-2013 06:55 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(04-06-2013 06:40 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Surprised. I really thought they'd drop (or simply reschedule) Rice and Temple. However, I guess this way no one loses a true home game... still need one more opening for 2014 (gotta be Rice, right?)

Arizona State loses ND coming to their place in 2014.

The 2013 game is set for Jerry Jones' Palace.

True. I realize ASU loses their home game, but since they won't play in South Bend either, it becomes a 1-and-done neutral site game. No harm, no foul.
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RE: ND drops Arizona State from 2014 schedule
(04-06-2013 09:54 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  True. I realize ASU loses their home game, but since they won't play in South Bend either, it becomes a 1-and-done neutral site game. No harm, no foul.

Quite frankly, I was surprised to see ND sign a neutral site/away deal to begin with. Especially with a non-power like ASU. ND usually goes for the Home/Neutral.
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RE: ND drops Arizona State from 2014 schedule
(04-06-2013 09:54 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(04-06-2013 06:55 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(04-06-2013 06:40 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Surprised. I really thought they'd drop (or simply reschedule) Rice and Temple. However, I guess this way no one loses a true home game... still need one more opening for 2014 (gotta be Rice, right?)

Arizona State loses ND coming to their place in 2014.

The 2013 game is set for Jerry Jones' Palace.

True. I realize ASU loses their home game, but since they won't play in South Bend either, it becomes a 1-and-done neutral site game. No harm, no foul.


ASU is scheduled to play at South Bend in 2017.

Want to take odds on whether that game will happen?

ND will lose a home game too.
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RE: ND drops Arizona State from 2014 schedule
(04-06-2013 10:45 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(04-06-2013 09:54 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  True. I realize ASU loses their home game, but since they won't play in South Bend either, it becomes a 1-and-done neutral site game. No harm, no foul.

Quite frankly, I was surprised to see ND sign a neutral site/away deal to begin with. Especially with a non-power like ASU. ND usually goes for the Home/Neutral.



It is a 2-1 deal in favor of ND. Two home games for ND and a game in Arizona.

The 2013 game in Dallas is not a "neutral site" game.

It is an ND home game. ND has been playing the "Shamrock Series" for quite a few years now.

They move home games to big venue neutral sites all over the country.

They only play six games in South Bend and move the seventh home game all around the country.

They played "home games" in the Alamo Dome in San Antonio in 2009, Yankee Stadium in New York in 2010, at Fed Ex Field in Washington, D.C. in 2011, Soldier Field in Chicago last season and in Dallas next year.

ND controls the ticket sales and the games are televised on NBC. ND brings just about the entire university, the entire marching band and tens of thousands of fans to these games. They make the field look like ND Stadium with the diagonal striped endzones, wear home uniforms and transform the place as much as possible to a home game atmosphere/experience.

It is part of returning to ND's "barnstorming" days of Knute Rockne and the 1920's, when ND had to travel by train all over the country to play because Michigan and the Big Ten rejected ND's conference application and organized a boycott against ND.

ND likes to travel all over for exposure and to bring the game to fans, alumni and prospective students as many places as possible in road games and in that "neutral site, home game".

Last year, they played in Dublin, Ireland, Norman, Oklahoma, Los Angeles and in Miami for the title game.

The Dublin game was technically a Navy home game, but ND's pep rally the night before the game had 10,000 fans there to hear the Irish Prime Minister speak, listen to famous Irish actors/musicians perform and had its pep rally televised nationally across Ireland via RTE' (Ireland's national TV/radio network).

(ND also brought 35,000 fans across the Atlantic for that game last year).

ND doesn't worry about travel costs, it is part of the mission.

ND uses its football team as an advertising and recruiting arm of the university itself, it markets itself as the national Catholic university.
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RE: ND drops Arizona State from 2014 schedule
Virginia Tech is obviously regional rather than national in appeal, but we have followed the Notre Dame scheduling model rather than the SEC (7 home games) model:

Year - Neutral Site Gm - H - A
2008 - ECU@Charlotte - 6 - 5
2009 - Bama@Atlanta - 6 - 5
2010 - Boise@Landover - 7 - 4
2011 - not applicable - 6 - 6
2012 - UC@Landover - 6 - 5

Only have 7 home games once; had a neutral site every year but one.
This year we have another neutral site game vs. Alabama in Atlanta. These games tend to get scheduled somewhat last-minute, so we don't know beyond that.
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