(04-08-2013 10:45 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote: Right, the low information electorate is to "blame" for Obama. That's why he won college educated adults by a wide margin. The "low information" voters are Republicans, friend.
College educated doesn't bestow good judgement. And low information doesn't mean lack of education.
If you liberals could grasp the failures your policies produce you wouldn't be liberals.
(04-08-2013 10:45 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote: Right, the low information electorate is to "blame" for Obama. That's why he won college educated adults by a wide margin. The "low information" voters are Republicans, friend.
Sure about that?
click on the exit polls tab to find this info.
No High School 64-35 Obama
High School Graduate 51-48 Obama
Some College 49-48 Obama
College Graduate 47-51 Romney
Post-Graduate 55-42 Obama
Not quite a wide margin unless you look specifically at post-graduate. I think its safe to offset that with Obama winning the no or high school graduate demographic though.
(This post was last modified: 04-08-2013 10:58 AM by 200yrs2late.)
(04-08-2013 10:34 AM)firmbizzle Wrote: See this is the problem with Republicans. Instead of trying to convince the American people of their vision, they would rather denegrate those that don't agree with them as lazy and stupid. Sounds like a winning strategy to get votes.
Democrats don't do that, too?
Oh, wait. What they call people is racist and stupid.
(04-08-2013 10:34 AM)firmbizzle Wrote: See this is the problem with Republicans. Instead of trying to convince the American people of their vision, they would rather denegrate those that don't agree with them as lazy and stupid. Sounds like a winning strategy to get votes.
Democrats don't do that, too?
Oh, wait. What they call people is racist and stupid.
When have you seen democrats say "the reason that we lost the last election is because the voters are racist and stupid"?
(04-08-2013 10:34 AM)firmbizzle Wrote: See this is the problem with Republicans. Instead of trying to convince the American people of their vision, they would rather denegrate those that don't agree with them as lazy and stupid. Sounds like a winning strategy to get votes.
Democrats don't do that, too?
Oh, wait. What they call people is racist and stupid.
When have you seen democrats say "the reason that we lost the last election is because the voters are racist and stupid"?
Changing the argument a little aren't you firm?
Both sides are guilty of name calling when it comes to disagreements.
Post-graduates obviously spend many extra years inside the walls of a school, many public, so there's already a built-in penchant for politicians that tout higher state spending for higher ed. And a number of those degrees are for jobs that depend either on public funds and/or research grants. So for many post-graduates, voting 'left' is done more to satisfy self-interests than any correlation to "booksmarts."
(04-08-2013 10:34 AM)firmbizzle Wrote: See this is the problem with Republicans. Instead of trying to convince the American people of their vision, they would rather denegrate those that don't agree with them as lazy and stupid. Sounds like a winning strategy to get votes.
Democrats don't do that, too?
Oh, wait. What they call people is racist and stupid.
When have you seen democrats say "the reason that we lost the last election is because the voters are racist and stupid"?
Changing the argument a little aren't you firm?
It's his way.
Chains!!! said the VP. (credit to Smaug).
(This post was last modified: 04-08-2013 11:26 AM by Ninerfan1.)
Post-graduates obviously spend many extra years inside the walls of a school, many public, so there's already a built-in penchant for politicians that tout higher state spending for higher ed. And a number of those degrees are for jobs that depend either on public funds and/or research grants. So for many post-graduates, voting 'left' is done more to satisfy self-interests than any correlation to "booksmarts."
I agree completely. I have a post-graduate degree, albeit one that sways rather heavily right. i would love to see a breakdown of political affiliation broken down by type of post-graduate degree.
(04-08-2013 10:34 AM)firmbizzle Wrote: See this is the problem with Republicans. Instead of trying to convince the American people of their vision, they would rather denegrate those that don't agree with them as lazy and stupid. Sounds like a winning strategy to get votes.
Democrats don't do that, too?
Oh, wait. What they call people is racist and stupid.
When have you seen democrats say "the reason that we lost the last election is because the voters are racist and stupid"?
(04-08-2013 10:34 AM)firmbizzle Wrote: See this is the problem with Republicans. Instead of trying to convince the American people of their vision, they would rather denegrate those that don't agree with them as lazy and stupid. Sounds like a winning strategy to get votes.
Democrats don't do that, too?
Oh, wait. What they call people is racist and stupid.
When have you seen democrats say "the reason that we lost the last election is because the voters are racist and stupid"?
Changing the argument a little aren't you firm?
Both sides are guilty of name calling when it comes to disagreements.
What argument? Obama is nothing like a communist. lol
Joseph Stalin killed 17 million people. Obama championed government health care and ended the war in Iraq. One has a mustache, the other doesn't.
I agree with you that there is a lot of name calling from both sides but it's very rare that you see a political party blame the people who's vote they are trying to gain.
(04-08-2013 12:40 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: I agree with you that there is a lot of name calling from both sides but it's very rare that you see a political party blame the people who's vote they are trying to gain.
(04-08-2013 12:40 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: I agree with you that there is a lot of name calling from both sides but it's very rare that you see a political party blame the people who's vote they are trying to gain.
And what party has done this exactly?
The Republican Rominee(pun intended) for president is/was notorious for doing this.
(04-08-2013 10:34 AM)firmbizzle Wrote: See this is the problem with Republicans. Instead of trying to convince the American people of their vision, they would rather denegrate those that don't agree with them as lazy and stupid. Sounds like a winning strategy to get votes.
Democrats don't do that, too?
Oh, wait. What they call people is racist and stupid.
When have you seen democrats say "the reason that we lost the last election is because the voters are racist and stupid"?
Changing the argument a little aren't you firm?
Both sides are guilty of name calling when it comes to disagreements.
What argument? Obama is nothing like a communist. lol
Joseph Stalin killed 17 million people. Obama championed government health care and ended the war in Iraq. One has a mustache, the other doesn't.
I agree with you that there is a lot of name calling from both sides but it's very rare that you see a political party blame the people who's vote they are trying to gain.
I was talking about sides calling each other names. To start you didn't mention anything about winning an election, then when confronted with the fact that liberals tend to call people racist in certain circumstances you quantified it with winning an election.
(04-08-2013 10:48 AM)Smaug Wrote: Democrats don't do that, too?
Oh, wait. What they call people is racist and stupid.
When have you seen democrats say "the reason that we lost the last election is because the voters are racist and stupid"?
Changing the argument a little aren't you firm?
Both sides are guilty of name calling when it comes to disagreements.
What argument? Obama is nothing like a communist. lol
Joseph Stalin killed 17 million people. Obama championed government health care and ended the war in Iraq. One has a mustache, the other doesn't.
I agree with you that there is a lot of name calling from both sides but it's very rare that you see a political party blame the people who's vote they are trying to gain.
I was talking about sides calling each other names. To start you didn't mention anything about winning an election, then when confronted with the fact that liberals tend to call people racist in certain circumstances you quantified it with winning an election.
What do you call people who make racist statements?
Politics is all about winning elections. Both sides call people names, it's just odd to see politicians call voters names, then ask for their vote.
(04-08-2013 11:19 AM)firmbizzle Wrote: When have you seen democrats say "the reason that we lost the last election is because the voters are racist and stupid"?
Changing the argument a little aren't you firm?
Both sides are guilty of name calling when it comes to disagreements.
What argument? Obama is nothing like a communist. lol
Joseph Stalin killed 17 million people. Obama championed government health care and ended the war in Iraq. One has a mustache, the other doesn't.
I agree with you that there is a lot of name calling from both sides but it's very rare that you see a political party blame the people who's vote they are trying to gain.
I was talking about sides calling each other names. To start you didn't mention anything about winning an election, then when confronted with the fact that liberals tend to call people racist in certain circumstances you quantified it with winning an election.
What do you call people who make racist statements?
Politics is all about winning elections. Both sides call people names, it's just odd to see politicians call voters names, then ask for their vote.
When is the last time you heard a conservative or Republican claim that "urban", "angry", "Chicago", or "illegal immigrant" were racist words and phrases? My only point here is that many of the words used to classify people on the right as racists aren't racist at all.
(04-08-2013 11:19 AM)firmbizzle Wrote: When have you seen democrats say "the reason that we lost the last election is because the voters are racist and stupid"?
Changing the argument a little aren't you firm?
Both sides are guilty of name calling when it comes to disagreements.
What argument? Obama is nothing like a communist. lol
Joseph Stalin killed 17 million people. Obama championed government health care and ended the war in Iraq. One has a mustache, the other doesn't.
I agree with you that there is a lot of name calling from both sides but it's very rare that you see a political party blame the people who's vote they are trying to gain.
I was talking about sides calling each other names. To start you didn't mention anything about winning an election, then when confronted with the fact that liberals tend to call people racist in certain circumstances you quantified it with winning an election.
What do you call people who make racist statements?
Politics is all about winning elections. Both sides call people names, it's just odd to see politicians call voters names, then ask for their vote.
Not including Joe Biden, who is famous for this, Democrats and Democrat voters do it very often.
(04-08-2013 11:24 AM)200yrs2late Wrote: Changing the argument a little aren't you firm?
Both sides are guilty of name calling when it comes to disagreements.
What argument? Obama is nothing like a communist. lol
Joseph Stalin killed 17 million people. Obama championed government health care and ended the war in Iraq. One has a mustache, the other doesn't.
I agree with you that there is a lot of name calling from both sides but it's very rare that you see a political party blame the people who's vote they are trying to gain.
I was talking about sides calling each other names. To start you didn't mention anything about winning an election, then when confronted with the fact that liberals tend to call people racist in certain circumstances you quantified it with winning an election.
What do you call people who make racist statements?
Politics is all about winning elections. Both sides call people names, it's just odd to see politicians call voters names, then ask for their vote.
Not including Joe Biden, who is famous for this, Democrats and Democrat voters do it very often.
(04-08-2013 02:21 PM)firmbizzle Wrote: When do they take your stuff and give it to the state?
Come on firm, you know foundations have to be laid in order for change to be made. This is an idea being put forward by very liberal leaning news organization advocating "collective" responsibility and ownership of children. If you can't recognize the connection then there's no use discussing it with you, you are too far gone or too indoctrinated.