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RE: SEC Network to be announced next week
(04-13-2013 01:44 PM)bullet Wrote:  
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(04-13-2013 12:38 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  I think we are selling CFB fans short here. I like good games. I don't really care whom or where... I like a UT-OU game as well as the folks in Texas like to watch Alabama-LSU. It's just a great game. We have the BTN here in Biloxi and I am sure people here watch the games. There are enough alumni, transplants, and people that just love a good game etc., to make a network pretty much work anywhere.

That's right. But don't forget the other thing in the SECN's favor.....TV stinks. If there was anything on that was worth watching other than sports many husbands would have to watch a game alone on the second set. The fact that the wasteland that was television is now the toxic wasteland that is TV means that college sports, any college sports, and most professional sports have a greater likelihood of being the viewers choice than almost anything on except maybe a good old movie. And, since my wife and I have lived long enough to see most of those old movies in our house the choice will be sports. We'll watch National Geographic, Public Television, The History Channel (when it's actually about history) Turner Classic, and the Western channel if we watch anything else.

Logical fallacy. You're assuming TV people want YOU to watch. Its like commercials nowadays. I find most stupid or offensive. But they don't care. I'm not in the prime demographic they want to reach. That group has different ideas of what appeals to them.

That's an interesting observation, but since sports advertising dollars rely heavily upon Boomers, X'ers, and generation Y, and universities who once relied heavily upon the WWII generation and their contributions now have to rely upon the money the networks offer for those three generations eyeballs on the corporate ads, our demographic does count. It might not count for television as a whole and I find your point intriguing in that regard, but it does have to rely directly on viewership for the % paid for the ads by the corporations to the networks for live sporting events. The rates aren't fixed like for regular programming. So we still count there.

One reason I'm intrigued about who the ads are designed for is because the purchasing power of the younger generation is less than for their predecessors at that age. This is the second generation for which that trend is true and it is a first for our nation's history. If these trends deepen it will bring about some radical changes in advertising policies and targets. It is already bringing about changes in who is targeted most strongly for tax increases. I'd say if the trend continues (and I believe it will) the attributes of what once made our nation great will be all but gone and those who produce will either leave to live where there are less restrictive policies, or they will simply acquiesce and produce less.

They're not going after boomers as much anymore either. Its that 15-34. Maybe the Mercedes people are targeting older demographics, but the cell phone and beer commercials aren't. The Viagra and long term care insurance commercials on those old movies are.
Yeah, drunk and roaming describes the young folks pretty well.
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(04-13-2013 01:16 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  Texans won't pay higher cable/satellite fees to watch a team that left the state. If A&M won't play their formal rivals on H/H terms in the state of Texas, then don't expect Texans to pay for their conference network. So yes, in a sense, A&M left the state of Texas

I love CFB and I will watch Idaho play New Mexico St as long as my DirecTV bill doesn't go up. I will watch the SEC as long as my bill doesn't go up.

I think the SEC and TV execs will be surprised and disappointed when they find out how little Texans care about a school in College Station.

No, A&M did not leave the state of Texas in any sense other than a "sense" of sour grapes from the schools we left behind, particularly the ones that don't control their own fate in realignment.

A&M will play 8 games in the state of Texas this year and all of them are already sold out.

As for your "Texans don't care" theory, your very own TV data from this past season completely proves you wrong.

Poor Tech. Just cant stand seeing the SEC move work out so well for A&M while they are trapped in the Big 12 and their future decided for them from Austin with none of their desires mattering.
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RE: SEC Network to be announced next week
(04-13-2013 12:49 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
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(04-13-2013 12:19 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Greater Dallas and Houston are all you need to for home area. Ton of SEC fans in both places to justify it and that's a huge chunk of the TX population to drive subscriptions.

If you get home carriage there then Austin or Amarillo can be outside and its no biggie.
I think we are selling CFB fans short here. I like good games. I don't really care whom or where... I like a UT-OU game as well as the folks in Texas like to watch Alabama-LSU. It's just a great game. We have the BTN here in Biloxi and I am sure people here watch the games. There are enough alumni, transplants, and people that just love a good game etc., to make a network pretty much work anywhere.

That's right. But don't forget the other thing in the SECN's favor.....TV stinks. If there was anything on that was worth watching other than sports many husbands would have to watch a game alone on the second set. The fact that the wasteland that was television is now the toxic wasteland that is TV means that college sports, any college sports, and most professional sports have a greater likelihood of being the viewers choice than almost anything on except maybe a good old movie. And, since my wife and I have lived long enough to see most of those old movies in our house the choice will be sports. We'll watch National Geographic, Public Television, The History Channel (when it's actually about history) Turner Classic, and the Western channel if we watch anything else.

Great point.

TV sucketh so much that the SECN could become the usual background viewing for many homes while family members do other activities.
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(04-13-2013 01:16 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  Texans won't pay higher cable/satellite fees to watch a team that left the state. If A&M won't play their formal rivals on H/H terms in the state of Texas, then don't expect Texans to pay for their conference network. So yes, in a sense, A&M left the state of Texas

I love CFB and I will watch Idaho play New Mexico St as long as my DirecTV bill doesn't go up. I will watch the SEC as long as my bill doesn't go up.

I think the SEC and TV execs will be surprised and disappointed when they find out how little Texans care about a school in College Station.

Rubbish.

The people of Texas watched SEC football before aTm joined and watch it more now.

Nielson and I say you are wrong.
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RE: SEC Network to be announced next week
(04-13-2013 01:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 12:49 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 12:38 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 12:19 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Greater Dallas and Houston are all you need to for home area. Ton of SEC fans in both places to justify it and that's a huge chunk of the TX population to drive subscriptions.

If you get home carriage there then Austin or Amarillo can be outside and its no biggie.
I think we are selling CFB fans short here. I like good games. I don't really care whom or where... I like a UT-OU game as well as the folks in Texas like to watch Alabama-LSU. It's just a great game. We have the BTN here in Biloxi and I am sure people here watch the games. There are enough alumni, transplants, and people that just love a good game etc., to make a network pretty much work anywhere.

That's right. But don't forget the other thing in the SECN's favor.....TV stinks. If there was anything on that was worth watching other than sports many husbands would have to watch a game alone on the second set. The fact that the wasteland that was television is now the toxic wasteland that is TV means that college sports, any college sports, and most professional sports have a greater likelihood of being the viewers choice than almost anything on except maybe a good old movie. And, since my wife and I have lived long enough to see most of those old movies in our house the choice will be sports. We'll watch National Geographic, Public Television, The History Channel (when it's actually about history) Turner Classic, and the Western channel if we watch anything else.

Logical fallacy. You're assuming TV people want YOU to watch. Its like commercials nowadays. I find most stupid or offensive. But they don't care. I'm not in the prime demographic they want to reach. That group has different ideas of what appeals to them.

Age demographics are important no doubt, but economic demographics are more important. College football fans are in a category with golf fans and a few others that are the most prized. Way more than an average 18 year old male.
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(04-13-2013 03:12 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 01:16 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  Texans won't pay higher cable/satellite fees to watch a team that left the state. If A&M won't play their formal rivals on H/H terms in the state of Texas, then don't expect Texans to pay for their conference network. So yes, in a sense, A&M left the state of Texas

I love CFB and I will watch Idaho play New Mexico St as long as my DirecTV bill doesn't go up. I will watch the SEC as long as my bill doesn't go up.

I think the SEC and TV execs will be surprised and disappointed when they find out how little Texans care about a school in College Station.

No, A&M did not leave the state of Texas in any sense other than a "sense" of sour grapes from the schools we left behind, particularly the ones that don't control their own fate in realignment.

A&M will play 8 games in the state of Texas this year and all of them are already sold out.

As for your "Texans don't care" theory, your very own TV data from this past season completely proves you wrong.

Poor Tech. Just cant stand seeing the SEC move work out so well for A&M while they are trapped in the Big 12 and their future decided for them from Austin with none of their desires mattering.

According to rumors on Tech sites we had an invite to the PAC 12 but UT/ESPN killed the deal. As the 3rd largest fan supported University in the 2nd most populated state, we will have options. Tech doesn't have any sour grapes about A&M leaving. In fact, my University was the only Big 12 Texas school that didn't throw a temper tantrum when aggy wanted to leave.

That being said this isn't about Tech so bashing us is pointless. My point is Texans won't pay for a network that helps fill the coffers of a University who left the state. A&M could play 12 games in College Station and no one besides aggies will care. A&M doesn't play anyone worthwhile from this state and we won't pay to watch a SE based conference in this state.

Sure Texans will watch aggie games on CBS/ESPN as long as our monthly fees don't increase. A&M finally had decent TV ratings in 2012 and their fans think that is the norm. Those TV ratings will go out the window when Texans are asked to pay for a network that only benefits 1 school in this state. You should know this by now after watching the LHN fail in this state.
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(04-13-2013 03:37 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 01:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 12:49 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
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(04-13-2013 12:19 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Greater Dallas and Houston are all you need to for home area. Ton of SEC fans in both places to justify it and that's a huge chunk of the TX population to drive subscriptions.

If you get home carriage there then Austin or Amarillo can be outside and its no biggie.
I think we are selling CFB fans short here. I like good games. I don't really care whom or where... I like a UT-OU game as well as the folks in Texas like to watch Alabama-LSU. It's just a great game. We have the BTN here in Biloxi and I am sure people here watch the games. There are enough alumni, transplants, and people that just love a good game etc., to make a network pretty much work anywhere.

That's right. But don't forget the other thing in the SECN's favor.....TV stinks. If there was anything on that was worth watching other than sports many husbands would have to watch a game alone on the second set. The fact that the wasteland that was television is now the toxic wasteland that is TV means that college sports, any college sports, and most professional sports have a greater likelihood of being the viewers choice than almost anything on except maybe a good old movie. And, since my wife and I have lived long enough to see most of those old movies in our house the choice will be sports. We'll watch National Geographic, Public Television, The History Channel (when it's actually about history) Turner Classic, and the Western channel if we watch anything else.

Logical fallacy. You're assuming TV people want YOU to watch. Its like commercials nowadays. I find most stupid or offensive. But they don't care. I'm not in the prime demographic they want to reach. That group has different ideas of what appeals to them.

Age demographics are important no doubt, but economic demographics are more important. College football fans are in a category with golf fans and a few others that are the most prized. Way more than an average 18 year old male.

With college football, they are trying to get the 18-34 year old males. Golf, a little different. You get more Rolex commercials.
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(04-13-2013 03:31 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 01:16 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  Texans won't pay higher cable/satellite fees to watch a team that left the state. If A&M won't play their formal rivals on H/H terms in the state of Texas, then don't expect Texans to pay for their conference network. So yes, in a sense, A&M left the state of Texas

I love CFB and I will watch Idaho play New Mexico St as long as my DirecTV bill doesn't go up. I will watch the SEC as long as my bill doesn't go up.

I think the SEC and TV execs will be surprised and disappointed when they find out how little Texans care about a school in College Station.

Rubbish.

The people of Texas watched SEC football before aTm joined and watch it more now.

Nielson and I say you are wrong.

http://blog.chron.com/sportsmedia/2010/0...to-ponder/

Quote:What does this tell us? Well, for one thing, it tells us that the SEC already does pretty well in Houston. I’m not sure it needs Texas A&M as a ratings booster, at least in this market. In 2008, in fact, Alabama-LSU beat Oklahoma-Texas A&M in the same time slot, 6.1 to 4.1. Of course, the Aggies will draw better when they play better,and they’ll have more prime time games and more ABC games, presuming the Big 12 continues as a 10-team league. At this point, however, they’re not a prime time property.

Sure the SEC has done well and will continue to do well in Houston as long as subscriber fees stay the same. Texans won't pay more money to watch a team that left the state and continues to thumb their nose at a conference they couldn't compete in. Johnny football will go pro soon and Sumlin will bolt for a better job. aggy will once again be an after thought in this state.
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Poor JML!

Its just eating you alive that A&M is a popular and attractive brand and far more valuable to any conference than Tech will ever be.

The SEC dominated the TV rating in TX because Texans prefer it to a Midwest based league like the Big 12. First you say "we'll never play you again because you left" and now you say "A&M is thumbing their nose at US!" how incredibly pathetic!

A&M doesnt need to indulge any Big 12 teams because it got better ratings playing Bama than UT got playing OU.

Now SECN is coming to Tx and no amount of your crying or pouting will stop it because Texas wants SEC football more than they want Big 12 football.
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(04-13-2013 09:44 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 03:12 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 01:16 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  Texans won't pay higher cable/satellite fees to watch a team that left the state. If A&M won't play their formal rivals on H/H terms in the state of Texas, then don't expect Texans to pay for their conference network. So yes, in a sense, A&M left the state of Texas

I love CFB and I will watch Idaho play New Mexico St as long as my DirecTV bill doesn't go up. I will watch the SEC as long as my bill doesn't go up.

I think the SEC and TV execs will be surprised and disappointed when they find out how little Texans care about a school in College Station.

No, A&M did not leave the state of Texas in any sense other than a "sense" of sour grapes from the schools we left behind, particularly the ones that don't control their own fate in realignment.

A&M will play 8 games in the state of Texas this year and all of them are already sold out.

As for your "Texans don't care" theory, your very own TV data from this past season completely proves you wrong.

Poor Tech. Just cant stand seeing the SEC move work out so well for A&M while they are trapped in the Big 12 and their future decided for them from Austin with none of their desires mattering.

According to rumors on Tech sites we had an invite to the PAC 12 but UT/ESPN killed the deal. As the 3rd largest fan supported University in the 2nd most populated state, we will have options. Tech doesn't have any sour grapes about A&M leaving. In fact, my University was the only Big 12 Texas school that didn't throw a temper tantrum when aggy wanted to leave.

That being said this isn't about Tech so bashing us is pointless. My point is Texans won't pay for a network that helps fill the coffers of a University who left the state. A&M could play 12 games in College Station and no one besides aggies will care. A&M doesn't play anyone worthwhile from this state and we won't pay to watch a SE based conference in this state.

Sure Texans will watch aggie games on CBS/ESPN as long as our monthly fees don't increase. A&M finally had decent TV ratings in 2012 and their fans think that is the norm. Those TV ratings will go out the window when Texans are asked to pay for a network that only benefits 1 school in this state. You should know this by now after watching the LHN fail in this state.

'' Texans won't pay higher cable/satellite fees to watch a team that left the state."

Last time I looked, College Station was still in Texas...
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(04-13-2013 10:13 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 03:31 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 01:16 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  Texans won't pay higher cable/satellite fees to watch a team that left the state. If A&M won't play their formal rivals on H/H terms in the state of Texas, then don't expect Texans to pay for their conference network. So yes, in a sense, A&M left the state of Texas

I love CFB and I will watch Idaho play New Mexico St as long as my DirecTV bill doesn't go up. I will watch the SEC as long as my bill doesn't go up.

I think the SEC and TV execs will be surprised and disappointed when they find out how little Texans care about a school in College Station.

Rubbish.

The people of Texas watched SEC football before aTm joined and watch it more now.

Nielson and I say you are wrong.

http://blog.chron.com/sportsmedia/2010/0...to-ponder/

Quote:What does this tell us? Well, for one thing, it tells us that the SEC already does pretty well in Houston. I’m not sure it needs Texas A&M as a ratings booster, at least in this market. In 2008, in fact, Alabama-LSU beat Oklahoma-Texas A&M in the same time slot, 6.1 to 4.1. Of course, the Aggies will draw better when they play better,and they’ll have more prime time games and more ABC games, presuming the Big 12 continues as a 10-team league. At this point, however, they’re not a prime time property.

Sure the SEC has done well and will continue to do well in Houston as long as subscriber fees stay the same. Texans won't pay more money to watch a team that left the state and continues to thumb their nose at a conference they couldn't compete in. Johnny football will go pro soon and Sumlin will bolt for a better job. aggy will once again be an after thought in this state.

You keep saying "they left the state". They didnt go anywhere. They didn't leave the state anymore than Texas, Texh, Baylor, and A&M left the state to play Kansas, Colorado, and Missouri rather than schools in the state. Texans will watch thier schools compete just as they always have. They will want to see any Aggie games on the SEC network. They will ask for the SEC channel. If they are worried about thier bill they will ask that some of the million channels that they (along with most folks) never ever watch be dumped to pay for it.
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(04-13-2013 10:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Poor JML!

Its just eating you alive that A&M is a popular and attractive brand and far more valuable to any conference than Tech will ever be.

The SEC dominated the TV rating in TX because Texans prefer it to a Midwest based league like the Big 12. First you say "we'll never play you again because you left" and now you say "A&M is thumbing their nose at US!" how incredibly pathetic!

A&M doesnt need to indulge any Big 12 teams because it got better ratings playing Bama than UT got playing OU.

Now SECN is coming to Tx and no amount of your crying or pouting will stop it because Texas wants SEC football more than they want Big 12 football.

Poor 10th, he can't get into dead dog U (for the uninformed, aggy bury their collies outside their tackle box stadium so they can see the scoreboard) and hopes the military will pay for his education at TCU.

I somewhat had respect for 10th when he was fighting for our wonderful nation. Now, I think he is sad lost soul that couldn't sniff an A&M acceptance letter.

It bothers the T-shirt aggy fan that johnny football will go pro soon and Sumlin will leave for a better job. It bothers the t-shirt fan that Texans only watch aggy to make clowns out of themselves. 10th should be embarrassed watching the fake soldiers that define Texas A&M.

As a die hard republican conservative that hates Rick " the aggy" Perry, I would support a candidate that would sell the College Station/Houston/Beaumont/East Texas area to Louisiana. Maybe 10th can send me another PM begging me not to Neg rep him.
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(04-14-2013 02:54 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 10:13 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 03:31 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 01:16 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  Texans won't pay higher cable/satellite fees to watch a team that left the state. If A&M won't play their formal rivals on H/H terms in the state of Texas, then don't expect Texans to pay for their conference network. So yes, in a sense, A&M left the state of Texas

I love CFB and I will watch Idaho play New Mexico St as long as my DirecTV bill doesn't go up. I will watch the SEC as long as my bill doesn't go up.

I think the SEC and TV execs will be surprised and disappointed when they find out how little Texans care about a school in College Station.

Rubbish.

The people of Texas watched SEC football before aTm joined and watch it more now.

Nielson and I say you are wrong.

http://blog.chron.com/sportsmedia/2010/0...to-ponder/

Quote:What does this tell us? Well, for one thing, it tells us that the SEC already does pretty well in Houston. I’m not sure it needs Texas A&M as a ratings booster, at least in this market. In 2008, in fact, Alabama-LSU beat Oklahoma-Texas A&M in the same time slot, 6.1 to 4.1. Of course, the Aggies will draw better when they play better,and they’ll have more prime time games and more ABC games, presuming the Big 12 continues as a 10-team league. At this point, however, they’re not a prime time property.

Sure the SEC has done well and will continue to do well in Houston as long as subscriber fees stay the same. Texans won't pay more money to watch a team that left the state and continues to thumb their nose at a conference they couldn't compete in. Johnny football will go pro soon and Sumlin will bolt for a better job. aggy will once again be an after thought in this state.

You keep saying "they left the state". They didnt go anywhere. They didn't leave the state anymore than Texas, Texh, Baylor, and A&M left the state to play Kansas, Colorado, and Missouri rather than schools in the state. Texans will watch thier schools compete just as they always have. They will want to see any Aggie games on the SEC network. They will ask for the SEC channel. If they are worried about thier bill they will ask that some of the million channels that they (along with most folks) never ever watch be dumped to pay for it.

They left the state. Attack will you accept an increase in your cable bill to watch a team that won't have anything to do with your University? I won't and millions of other Texans won't either.

Tech will play schools from the SWC and we have proved that. Aggy fans want Texans to pay for their conference network in this state without playing Texas schools. Texans won't pay for the LHN and we won't pay money for the SECN.
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(04-14-2013 04:22 AM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(04-14-2013 02:54 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 10:13 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 03:31 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 01:16 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  Texans won't pay higher cable/satellite fees to watch a team that left the state. If A&M won't play their formal rivals on H/H terms in the state of Texas, then don't expect Texans to pay for their conference network. So yes, in a sense, A&M left the state of Texas

I love CFB and I will watch Idaho play New Mexico St as long as my DirecTV bill doesn't go up. I will watch the SEC as long as my bill doesn't go up.

I think the SEC and TV execs will be surprised and disappointed when they find out how little Texans care about a school in College Station.

Rubbish.

The people of Texas watched SEC football before aTm joined and watch it more now.

Nielson and I say you are wrong.

http://blog.chron.com/sportsmedia/2010/0...to-ponder/

Quote:What does this tell us? Well, for one thing, it tells us that the SEC already does pretty well in Houston. I’m not sure it needs Texas A&M as a ratings booster, at least in this market. In 2008, in fact, Alabama-LSU beat Oklahoma-Texas A&M in the same time slot, 6.1 to 4.1. Of course, the Aggies will draw better when they play better,and they’ll have more prime time games and more ABC games, presuming the Big 12 continues as a 10-team league. At this point, however, they’re not a prime time property.

Sure the SEC has done well and will continue to do well in Houston as long as subscriber fees stay the same. Texans won't pay more money to watch a team that left the state and continues to thumb their nose at a conference they couldn't compete in. Johnny football will go pro soon and Sumlin will bolt for a better job. aggy will once again be an after thought in this state.

You keep saying "they left the state". They didnt go anywhere. They didn't leave the state anymore than Texas, Texh, Baylor, and A&M left the state to play Kansas, Colorado, and Missouri rather than schools in the state. Texans will watch thier schools compete just as they always have. They will want to see any Aggie games on the SEC network. They will ask for the SEC channel. If they are worried about thier bill they will ask that some of the million channels that they (along with most folks) never ever watch be dumped to pay for it.

They left the state. Attack will you accept an increase in your cable bill to watch a team that won't have anything to do with your University? I won't and millions of other Texans won't either.

Tech will play schools from the SWC and we have proved that. Aggy fans want Texans to pay for their conference network in this state without playing Texas schools. Texans won't pay for the LHN and we won't pay money for the SECN.

Of course they will. Auburn hates Alabama but most Auburn fans watch every Alabama game that is not on at the same time as theirs. They watch Alabama to root against them. Aggies and Horns are no different. Gators and Noles are no different. That is the nature of rivalry and why this whole line of argumentation is ridiculous. A&M may have moved to the SEC and may not presently be playing Texas but that only adds fuel to the hatred that drives the interest that Horn fans will have in wanting to witness A&M demise at the hands of another foe, and vice versa. You can say whatever you want to but it won't change human nature a bit.
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(04-14-2013 10:21 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-14-2013 04:22 AM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(04-14-2013 02:54 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 10:13 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 03:31 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  Rubbish.

The people of Texas watched SEC football before aTm joined and watch it more now.

Nielson and I say you are wrong.

http://blog.chron.com/sportsmedia/2010/0...to-ponder/

Quote:What does this tell us? Well, for one thing, it tells us that the SEC already does pretty well in Houston. I’m not sure it needs Texas A&M as a ratings booster, at least in this market. In 2008, in fact, Alabama-LSU beat Oklahoma-Texas A&M in the same time slot, 6.1 to 4.1. Of course, the Aggies will draw better when they play better,and they’ll have more prime time games and more ABC games, presuming the Big 12 continues as a 10-team league. At this point, however, they’re not a prime time property.

Sure the SEC has done well and will continue to do well in Houston as long as subscriber fees stay the same. Texans won't pay more money to watch a team that left the state and continues to thumb their nose at a conference they couldn't compete in. Johnny football will go pro soon and Sumlin will bolt for a better job. aggy will once again be an after thought in this state.

You keep saying "they left the state". They didnt go anywhere. They didn't leave the state anymore than Texas, Texh, Baylor, and A&M left the state to play Kansas, Colorado, and Missouri rather than schools in the state. Texans will watch thier schools compete just as they always have. They will want to see any Aggie games on the SEC network. They will ask for the SEC channel. If they are worried about thier bill they will ask that some of the million channels that they (along with most folks) never ever watch be dumped to pay for it.

They left the state. Attack will you accept an increase in your cable bill to watch a team that won't have anything to do with your University? I won't and millions of other Texans won't either.

Tech will play schools from the SWC and we have proved that. Aggy fans want Texans to pay for their conference network in this state without playing Texas schools. Texans won't pay for the LHN and we won't pay money for the SECN.

Of course they will. Auburn hates Alabama but most Auburn fans watch every Alabama game that is not on at the same time as theirs. They watch Alabama to root against them. Aggies and Horns are no different. Gators and Noles are no different. That is the nature of rivalry and why this whole line of argumentation is ridiculous. A&M may have moved to the SEC and may not presently be playing Texas but that only adds fuel to the hatred that drives the interest that Horn fans will have in wanting to witness A&M demise at the hands of another foe, and vice versa. You can say whatever you want to but it won't change human nature a bit.

Poor JML

He cant argue any of my valid points so he (as usual) resorts to strawmen and ad hominem attacks.

His spidey sense tingles when he hears anything positive being said about A&M and his obsession sends him running to try and spew any irrational and illogical BS he can think of to try and derail it.

You need professional help.

And JR is correct. You raiders will watch it and so will cubbies and horns.

Again, your very own Nielson rating data you posted here proves it correct.

Which city in TX had the HIGHEST ratings for A&M vs Bama?

That's right: Austin.

And more to the point, your fallacy here is that this is A&M TV. It SEC TV. There are already tons of SEC folks in Houston and Dallas. Add them to the already existing A&M alumni populations there and its a huge demand for the product no matter how much you want to dismiss it out of jealousy that all Tech has is a closed circuit TV deal that plays in the Tech cafeteria.

But hey, if you downgrade your cable to basic tier 1, you won't have to worry about the big bad SECN boogeyman.


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Yeah, I cannot understand all the way over the top tribalistic nonsense that some folks spew in regards to whether or not Texans as a whole will follow and root for A&M to win in the SEC.

I am sure there are plenty of crazies that would want to see them fall on their face but the more balanced folks of the population aren't so over the top tied to all of this. They can be ardent Longhorn supporters and still turn on A&M when they are playing a big time SEC game such as the Alabama or LSU games. Hell they will probably watch the A&M matchups against Arkansas too as Arkansas has plenty of history with them all via the SWC.

I hate seeing the crazy mentality being sold as the norm.
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"Poor 10th, he can't get into dead dog U (for the uninformed, aggy bury their collies outside their tackle box stadium so they can see the scoreboard) and hopes the military will pay for his education at TCU."

This is totally over the line JML2010... I especially dislike your cheap comment regarding 10th's military service. and I think others here will agree with me. Just stop now. I am surprised somebody hasn't already pushed the button on you.
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(04-13-2013 10:31 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Poor JML!

Its just eating you alive that A&M is a popular and attractive brand and far more valuable to any conference than Tech will ever be.

The SEC dominated the TV rating in TX because Texans prefer it to a Midwest based league like the Big 12. First you say "we'll never play you again because you left" and now you say "A&M is thumbing their nose at US!" how incredibly pathetic!

A&M doesnt need to indulge any Big 12 teams because it got better ratings playing Bama than UT got playing OU.

Now SECN is coming to Tx and no amount of your crying or pouting will stop it because Texas wants SEC football more than they want Big 12 football.

Poor 10th, he can't get into dead dog U (for the uninformed, aggy bury their collies outside their tackle box stadium so they can see the scoreboard) and hopes the military will pay for his education at TCU.

I somewhat had respect for 10th when he was fighting for our wonderful nation. Now, I think he is sad lost soul that couldn't sniff an A&M acceptance letter.

It bothers the T-shirt aggy fan that johnny football will go pro soon and Sumlin will leave for a better job. It bothers the t-shirt fan that Texans only watch aggy to make clowns out of themselves. 10th should be embarrassed watching the fake soldiers that define Texas A&M.

As a die hard republican conservative that hates Rick " the aggy" Perry, I would support a candidate that would sell the College Station/Houston/Beaumont/East Texas area to Louisiana. Maybe 10th can send me another PM begging me not to Neg rep him.
JML, Those "fake soldiers" as you call them, receive military commissions. Maybe you prefer college students that use funnels to drink whiskey and act like 10 year olds. The more you rant, the sillier you sound. I won't bash your school. It was my favorite Texas university when I lived in Texas, but I am sure they are cringing listening to you.
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(04-14-2013 02:32 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  [JML, Those "fake soldiers" as you call them, receive military commissions. Maybe you prefer college students that use funnels to drink whiskey and act like 10 year olds. The more you rant, the sillier you sound. I won't bash your school. It was my favorite Texas university when I lived in Texas, but I am sure they are cringing listening to you.

Correction. Most of the A&M Corps of Cadets do not receive commissions. Its basically just a military style fraternity. And there are lots of incidents of Corps members acting like 10 year olds, the most infamous being when the Corps member pulled a sword on an SMU cheerleader whose cartwheel landed on the "sacred" field.
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(04-14-2013 11:08 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Yeah, I cannot understand all the way over the top tribalistic nonsense that some folks spew in regards to whether or not Texans as a whole will follow and root for A&M to win in the SEC.

I am sure there are plenty of crazies that would want to see them fall on their face but the more balanced folks of the population aren't so over the top tied to all of this. They can be ardent Longhorn supporters and still turn on A&M when they are playing a big time SEC game such as the Alabama or LSU games. Hell they will probably watch the A&M matchups against Arkansas too as Arkansas has plenty of history with them all via the SWC.

I hate seeing the crazy mentality being sold as the norm.

Pretty much this. The typical college football fan in Texas will watch most any well known in-state school game on television. Now if one state schools game conflicts with another, that's where school preference starts kicking in, but if it's an in-state schools vs some random ACC school or Pac12 school, 8 times out of ten the school with some local interest will usually win out.
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