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SEC Network to be announced next week
Per Sports Business Daily.

Official Announcement scheduled for Tuesday.

Can't wait to find out the details!

http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/M.../SEC.aspx?
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(04-12-2013 09:31 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Per Sports Business Daily.

Official Announcement scheduled for Tuesday.

Can't wait to find out the details!

http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/M.../SEC.aspx?

Finding out the details on the money will be interesting. But the tidbit that Slive dropped two weeks ago was that he would discuss substantial content enhancements when the announcement was made. Naturally I have wondered whether he was referring to additional conference games (nine), a scheduling alliance (Big 12 or ACC, or both), or outright additions. That piece of the announcement could overshadow the money.
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(04-12-2013 09:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 09:31 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Per Sports Business Daily.

Official Announcement scheduled for Tuesday.

Can't wait to find out the details!

http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/M.../SEC.aspx?

Finding out the details on the money will be interesting. But the tidbit that Slive dropped two weeks ago was that he would discuss substantial content enhancements when the announcement was made. Naturally I have wondered whether he was referring to additional conference games (nine), a scheduling alliance (Big 12 or ACC, or both), or outright additions. That piece of the announcement could overshadow the money.

I agree with you, and really hoping the SEC will announce a 9 game conference schedule, which would partially explain why it has taken so long to finalize the deal. I for one would love to see a 10 game conference schedule...
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RE: SEC Network to be announced next week
I can't see outright additions for the sec right now but i could see a scheduling alliance with either the acc or big 12. I think the sec would be better off with the ACC alliance if they got ND to be part of the deal + keep the schedule at 8 sec football games. Maybe have ND play 5 ACC school's and 1 rotated sec per year for 6 committed games for the ND. 1 sec/acc game for each school in both leagues with the traditional rival games of clemson/sc, UF/FSU, UK/Lville, and UGA/Gtech begin part of the package + ND going through all the sec teams in a 14 year cycle. Thus, once every 14 years an sec school would play ND and an ACC school with 2 other non conference games and 8 sec games. In the years sec school's don't play ND, they would have 8 sec games, 1 acc game and 3 non conference games. As for the other sec/acc games, you could play some of those at neutral sites or an campus + throw in ND playing 1 sec school in various locations. Such a setup would get the sec network in the states they want, i.e. NC and VA + add northeasten states with pitt, cuse, bc and than throw in ND playing 1 sec game per year. I think such a deal would lock down the big 10 from picking off acc school's get espn what it wants with the sec network, more states.
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RE: SEC Network to be announced next week
(04-12-2013 09:56 AM)LSUtah Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 09:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 09:31 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Per Sports Business Daily.

Official Announcement scheduled for Tuesday.

Can't wait to find out the details!

http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/M.../SEC.aspx?

Finding out the details on the money will be interesting. But the tidbit that Slive dropped two weeks ago was that he would discuss substantial content enhancements when the announcement was made. Naturally I have wondered whether he was referring to additional conference games (nine), a scheduling alliance (Big 12 or ACC, or both), or outright additions. That piece of the announcement could overshadow the money.

I agree with you, and really hoping the SEC will announce a 9 game conference schedule, which would partially explain why it has taken so long to finalize the deal. I for one would love to see a 10 game conference schedule...

If and when we ever expand again I could easily see a ten game schedule eventually emerging. But at least a nine game schedule covers virtually all of the bases in a sixteen team conference. 3 divisional games, a rotation of one team from each division each year, and one permanent rival from each of the divisions, would cover historical rivals completely (if the divisions are properly laid out) everyone would get to play every team every three years, and it would help to keep an expanding conference boundary from increasing everyone's travel.

If for no other reason that is why I would rather see 16 sooner than later.
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Wow, only 30-35 million per team. B1G is projecting 40-50 million.

Florida and Georgia to the B1G SOON.
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(04-12-2013 10:53 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 09:56 AM)LSUtah Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 09:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 09:31 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Per Sports Business Daily.

Official Announcement scheduled for Tuesday.

Can't wait to find out the details!

http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/M.../SEC.aspx?

Finding out the details on the money will be interesting. But the tidbit that Slive dropped two weeks ago was that he would discuss substantial content enhancements when the announcement was made. Naturally I have wondered whether he was referring to additional conference games (nine), a scheduling alliance (Big 12 or ACC, or both), or outright additions. That piece of the announcement could overshadow the money.

I agree with you, and really hoping the SEC will announce a 9 game conference schedule, which would partially explain why it has taken so long to finalize the deal. I for one would love to see a 10 game conference schedule...

If and when we ever expand again I could easily see a ten game schedule eventually emerging. But at least a nine game schedule covers virtually all of the bases in a sixteen team conference. 3 divisional games, a rotation of one team from each division each year, and one permanent rival from each of the divisions, would cover historical rivals completely (if the divisions are properly laid out) everyone would get to play every team every three years, and it would help to keep an expanding conference boundary from increasing everyone's travel.

If for no other reason that is why I would rather see 16 sooner than later.

9 conference games should be the bare minimum for a 14-team league, IMO. 9 conference games allows for 3 games each year against teams from the other division.

If you're only playing two games against teams from the other division, your team will almost never play football against some of the teams in the other division. That's bordering on being two separate football conferences with a scheduling alliance rather than one conference.

If the SEC plays only two cross-division football games and continues with one of those cross-division games being a "permanent rival", then, under that alignment, SEC West teams will play most SEC East teams less often than every ACC football team will play Notre Dame.
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(04-12-2013 11:26 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  Wow, only 30-35 million per team. B1G is projecting 40-50 million.

Florida and Georgia to the B1G SOON.

It's closer to 35, but that doesn't matter. Those figures are for the first three years. It jumps to over 40 within 4 years and is estimated at 1 Billion in projections of total earnings at the turn of its first decade. The BTN had similar low ball numbers during their start up phase. Considering the higher percentage of total viewers per 100,000 in the Southeast, the fact that the SEC draws more eyeballs nationally than other conferences, and the product on the field, I don't think anyone down here is sweating the first few years.

And just as with the projections for the SEC's value at 10 years and the Big 10's value when they shop a new contract, I haven't met anyone yet who could eat off of their projections. So, we'll see.
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(04-12-2013 11:32 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 10:53 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 09:56 AM)LSUtah Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 09:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 09:31 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Per Sports Business Daily.

Official Announcement scheduled for Tuesday.

Can't wait to find out the details!

http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/M.../SEC.aspx?

Finding out the details on the money will be interesting. But the tidbit that Slive dropped two weeks ago was that he would discuss substantial content enhancements when the announcement was made. Naturally I have wondered whether he was referring to additional conference games (nine), a scheduling alliance (Big 12 or ACC, or both), or outright additions. That piece of the announcement could overshadow the money.

I agree with you, and really hoping the SEC will announce a 9 game conference schedule, which would partially explain why it has taken so long to finalize the deal. I for one would love to see a 10 game conference schedule...

If and when we ever expand again I could easily see a ten game schedule eventually emerging. But at least a nine game schedule covers virtually all of the bases in a sixteen team conference. 3 divisional games, a rotation of one team from each division each year, and one permanent rival from each of the divisions, would cover historical rivals completely (if the divisions are properly laid out) everyone would get to play every team every three years, and it would help to keep an expanding conference boundary from increasing everyone's travel.

If for no other reason that is why I would rather see 16 sooner than later.

9 conference games should be the bare minimum for a 14-team league, IMO. 9 conference games allows for 3 games each year against teams from the other division.

If you're only playing two games against teams from the other division, your team will almost never play football against some of the teams in the other division. That's bordering on being two separate football conferences with a scheduling alliance rather than one conference.

If the SEC plays only two cross-division football games and continues with one of those cross-division games being a "permanent rival", then, under that alignment, SEC West teams will play most SEC East teams less often than every ACC football team will play Notre Dame.

Nobody down here believes that this temporary 14 team schedule which works as you describe is going to last more than 1 more year. We're going to 9 sooner than most expect either to provide more content, or because of expansion or alliance.
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I've thought 9 games is inevitable if we are going to keep East/West permanent rivalries but still get to play opponents from the other division frequently.

6 Division games
1 Permanent Opposite Division Opponent
2 Rotating Opposite Division opponents.

If it were me, I'd do the 2 rotating as Indian Run style. IOW you play 2 opponents and then instead of immeadietly returning the game, you move on to the next 2 and then the next until you come around to the first pair and switch venue.

That way every player and fan can have a game against every team in the conference in 3 years.
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(04-12-2013 11:32 AM)Wedge Wrote:  If the SEC plays only two cross-division football games and continues with one of those cross-division games being a "permanent rival", then, under that alignment, SEC West teams will play most SEC East teams less often than every ACC football team will play Notre Dame.

Excellent way to put it. It's why I didn't want expansion in the Big Ten again. At least we're going to 9 games though and there will only be one locked crossover (Purdue-Indiana).
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(04-12-2013 11:26 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  Wow, only 30-35 million per team. B1G is projecting 40-50 million.

Florida and Georgia to the B1G SOON.

I believe the key word here is "projecting". And your last comment is truly ridiculous.
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(04-12-2013 12:40 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 11:26 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  Wow, only 30-35 million per team. B1G is projecting 40-50 million.

Florida and Georgia to the B1G SOON.

I believe the key word here is "projecting". And your last comment is truly ridiculous.

Just your typical ACC [fan] trying to "prove" that an ACC team leaving for the Big Ten or SEC is also ridiculous.

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I didn't read the article. How would the SEC Network be profitable if the schools have already signed over their 3rd tier rights individually? What content would actually be aired on the SECN? Are they buying their content back?
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It's part of the reason the network doesn't start till 2014.

It gives teams, like Florida for example, the time they need to leave sunshine network in preparation for that content going to SECN.

Nobody will have individual 3rd Tier deals once SECN starts.
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(04-12-2013 03:10 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  It's part of the reason the network doesn't start till 2014.

It gives teams, like Florida for example, the time they need to leave sunshine network in preparation for that content going to SECN.

Nobody will have individual 3rd Tier deals once SECN starts.

They'll still keep their radio money and their registered trademark cash for sales of caps and jerseys and such, but we won't need our third tier television rights anymore. It's like Tommy the guitar player said in "O Brother Where Art Thou" when asked why he sold his immortal soul he replied, "I wasn't using it anyway." The only real third tier TV money for the SEC was coming in from the one really crappy OOC game that every team had on its schedule that wasn't scheduled to be broadcast on 1st or 2nd tier and which the school was only going to receive pay per view money for anyway. And say what you will about most Southerners but as a rule they just aren't going to pay $30 to watch their alma mater play The State Institute of the Destitute and Disabled anyway. So give up third tier television revenue when you're in the SEC where almost every game is broadcast somewhere on subscription television every week anyway? Sure, "I wasn't using it anyway!"

In reality the only team truly sacrificing third tier TV money was the Gators and they will more than make up for it with the SECN.
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(04-12-2013 11:58 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 11:26 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  Wow, only 30-35 million per team. B1G is projecting 40-50 million.

Florida and Georgia to the B1G SOON.

It's closer to 35, but that doesn't matter. Those figures are for the first three years. It jumps to over 40 within 4 years and is estimated at 1 Billion in projections of total earnings at the turn of its first decade. The BTN had similar low ball numbers during their start up phase. Considering the higher percentage of total viewers per 100,000 in the Southeast, the fact that the SEC draws more eyeballs nationally than other conferences, and the product on the field, I don't think anyone down here is sweating the first few years.

And just as with the projections for the SEC's value at 10 years and the Big 10's value when they shop a new contract, I haven't met anyone yet who could eat off of their projections. So, we'll see.

The playoffs and Sugar Bowl deal should bump the league from the $20 million distributed last year(all sources, not just TV) to $29-30 million. So even with $30-$35 we aren't talking that much of a bump relative to the rest of the Big 5.
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pointless to speculate right now.

We'll know by Tuesday how well Slive did at the negotiating table and I'm confident he did his usual good work.
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(04-12-2013 04:27 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  pointless to speculate right now.

We'll know by Tuesday how well Slive did at the negotiating table and I'm confident he did his usual good work.

Depends on how secretive ESPN and the SEC are. It may take a good while for the info to leak out. I would think ESPN would want to keep info quiet to avoid giving the Big 10 ammunition for their renewal. Now if the SEC is trying to tempt ACC teams, they might leak it. But I don't think the SEC is anxious to expand. The Big 10 seems to be the only one especially interested, not that any would turn down the right teams.
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(04-12-2013 12:40 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 11:26 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  Wow, only 30-35 million per team. B1G is projecting 40-50 million.

Florida and Georgia to the B1G SOON.

I believe the key word here is "projecting". And your last comment is truly ridiculous.

C'mon, UF and UGA to B1G?!! Has Tropic Thunder taught you nothing?

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(04-12-2013 04:05 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 11:58 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(04-12-2013 11:26 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  Wow, only 30-35 million per team. B1G is projecting 40-50 million.

Florida and Georgia to the B1G SOON.

It's closer to 35, but that doesn't matter. Those figures are for the first three years. It jumps to over 40 within 4 years and is estimated at 1 Billion in projections of total earnings at the turn of its first decade. The BTN had similar low ball numbers during their start up phase. Considering the higher percentage of total viewers per 100,000 in the Southeast, the fact that the SEC draws more eyeballs nationally than other conferences, and the product on the field, I don't think anyone down here is sweating the first few years.

And just as with the projections for the SEC's value at 10 years and the Big 10's value when they shop a new contract, I haven't met anyone yet who could eat off of their projections. So, we'll see.

The playoffs and Sugar Bowl deal should bump the league from the $20 million distributed last year(all sources, not just TV) to $29-30 million. So even with $30-$35 we aren't talking that much of a bump relative to the rest of the Big 5.

It will be more by enough than the Big 12 and ACC and in a few years comparable or greater than the Big 10 depending upon markets added. Plus Bullet, last year this year and next we all still own our third tier which is not included and would be on average about 5 million more per school with Florida receiving the most and Miss State the least for their third tier. So make your estimate more in line with 25 for now with a few of the schools earning more and Florida earning significantly more. In 4 years we are looking at between 42 - 45. What will Bevo be getting?
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