Can't say I really fault the OP for feeling how he does. I also feel that UConn and UC have gotten screwed the most, and Temple and USF to a slightly lesser degree. I actually really feel that Houston and SMU do know how it feels with the SWC experience being pretty similar. Losing something hurts alot more than just never having it. You can't really miss what you never had.

To those who say Cincy was no more deserving than other CUSA schools to be invited to the BE, I disagree. They were a name brand school in a major market with good hoops history. I was excited by UC's and UofL's additions. USF, I had never heard of, but they proved to be a good conference mate as well. I'm sure the rest of the new schools will be good conference mates as well and will push us leftovers to continue to compete at the highest possible level.

(04-24-2013 08:04 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Texas is just going to love watching Texas A&M and Johnny Football rule the airwaves. Texas won't mind A&M making more $ and waves than the longwhorns, right? LOL!

With the ACC GOR being signed, Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC in a few years might be inevitable. Cincy better pray for this.

The Big 12 GOR expires the same time as the ACC.

That notwithstanding, Texas would go independent before it would join the SEC.

Those comments were obviously over the top and out of total frustration that we all feel.
I want to say, UC fans in general want nothing but the best for the AAC. With that said it is our number one goal as I would think every other school in the AAC to elevate to the next level. The money level difference will destroy the chances of us all competing in the highest level of Athletics in the near future. It may come to a class action lawsuit. There is no way anyone can compete if there are many years of us getting 4 million and the rest getting 20 million and above per year. That does not even include the staggering multi million difference in the playoff money. What right to these few conferences have that the others do not to make this legislation?

(04-24-2013 08:22 AM)Bearcat T Wrote:  Those comments were obviously over the top and out of total frustration that we all feel.
I want to say, UC fans in general want nothing but the best for the AAC. With that said it is our number one goal as I would think every other school in the AAC to elevate to the next level. The money level difference will destroy the chances of us all competing in the highest level of Athletics in the near future. It may come to a class action lawsuit. There is no way anyone can compete if there are many years of us getting 4 million and the rest getting 20 million and above per year. That does not even include the staggering multi million difference in the playoff money. What right to these few conferences have that the others do not to make this legislation?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS!!
THIS!
THIS!

(04-23-2013 11:55 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  I don't think I will ever be happy as a fan as long as we are in this conference. Obviously I will continue to support Cincinnati in every way possible but every win Cincinnati gets, my satisfaction gained will be conditional. Conditional in the sense that I don't care if we beat Memphis, UCF, USF, etc., all I care about is elevating our program over everyone else so that when the music starts, whenever that may be, Cincinnati won't be left without a chair again.

In two years, Cincinnati has lost its AQ status, membership in the best basketball conference in the nation, its biggest rival (to a much better conference), a F**K ton of money, and will watch Xavier get elevated to comparable status taking MSG with them to boot...and you know what? Cincinnati did nothing wrong, they competed at the highest level in football earning 2 BCS berths, they rebuilt their basketball program after it was completely destroyed to a Sweet 16 run, have made a commitment to renovate Nippert and support its two main sports financially (coaches salaries, indoor practice facilities), and have vastly improved both their academics and campus infrastructure. Sure the city of Cincinnati could have supported their team better. Unlike Louisville, we have to compete with the Bengals and the Reds for fans but still 35k perpetually in the stands should have been doable. Regardless, Cincinnati proved it on the field and on the court time and time again that they belong in the club...instead we were left out in the cold, typical Bearcat luck.

Every single UConn and Cincinnati fan, and to a lesser extent USF fan, has gotten completely screwed and should be severely depressed by the events that have transpired these past two years. Time isn't changing anything, if anything it will only make it worst. Not one of our programs can compete with the good to elite P5 football programs with that money differential as time goes on. Hell, the mediocre to bottom-dweller programs will be tougher to compete with in recruiting and, consequentially, on the field.

The P5 is slowly starving out the lesser programs. Eventually stipends will be permitted to college players and competing at even a comparable level will be impossible to almost every program not in the P5. College sports becomes more and more of a sham every day, even still, I hope the Bearcats are apart of it instead of being left behind fading into irrelevance.

With that said, go Bearcats...I hope we dominate every god d@mn school in football and basketball in this joke of a conference so none of you get that potential chair when the music starts over us. Cincinnati has no friends in this sh!t conference...every other program should feel the exact same way.

Have you brought this up with your analyst?

Lulz at this whole thread

(04-24-2013 08:22 AM)Bearcat T Wrote:  Those comments were obviously over the top and out of total frustration that we all feel.
I want to say, UC fans in general want nothing but the best for the AAC. With that said it is our number one goal as I would think every other school in the AAC to elevate to the next level. The money level difference will destroy the chances of us all competing in the highest level of Athletics in the near future. It may come to a class action lawsuit. There is no way anyone can compete if there are many years of us getting 4 million and the rest getting 20 million and above per year. That does not even include the staggering multi million difference in the playoff money. What right to these few conferences have that the others do not to make this legislation?

This pretty much explains it.

http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/2...conference

I don't begrudge anyone for wanting out of this conference, thinking it sucks, or whatever. This is a *havenot* conference. And until it is a *have* conference, those feelings will never change.

That being said, I identify with the struggles and frustrations of every program in the AAC and wish them all the best. I just wish a little bit harder for my alma mater.

The butthurt displayed by Cincy and UConn fans is now getting to be so bad it's funny.

Memphis lost all our rivals, money, and prestige to the BE when you all left FOR the Big East. Hell, UConn has been playing football for a second and good basketball for less then 20 years. Get over yourselves!!!

All this whining is making you look like spoiled brats. You will not get sympathy from anyone on here. Either try to beat us, suck it up, or get passed by.

Has it ever occurred to Cincy, UConn, and USF fans that maybe the reason they didn't get picked is because they don't deserve it? No one is going to hand you things.

(04-24-2013 08:13 AM)Bleeds_Purple Wrote:  I can't wait to see the Cincy fans when they get blown off the field in a football game against ECU ,Tulsa, Houston, SMU etc

I think we can all agree that we can't wait until we all get a shot at each other. You guys are at the very least making this UConn fan really care about playing and beating you guys.

(04-24-2013 08:09 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  You know what fellers'? Winning and good management will cure all your problems. So win and up grade your facilities. The only variable that is hard to control is your fan support, which requires constant attention.
"So just win Baby!"

To be fair, both Cincinnati and UConn *did* win. Cincinnati made it to 2 BCS bowls, would have made the College Football Playoff in 2009 had it existed then, and shared 2 other conference titles even after Brian Kelly left for Notre Dame. UConn made it to a BCS bowl and won 3 national championships in basketball in the BCS era. That's why it's more than justifiable that it's beyond frustrating for them. They *did* win at the highest level yet were still passed over by some schools with fewer recent accomplishments because of factors like location and perceived tradition. (To be sure, Louisville and West Virginia took the proverbial bull by the horns and deserved their elevated places in conference realignment.) These weren't wallflower athletic departments that expected to be part of the big boy club as a result of thinking that everyone should have an equal playing field just because they existed (which is the way a lot of other Gang of Five schools seem to think). They *won* at the highest level and *still* got screwed. The new system might blow for a lot of Gang of Five schools, but it blows in an excruciating way for Cincinnati and UConn specifically. They did everything that people asked them to do (invest in football, build new facilities and just win), yet they're worse off today than they were a year ago.

(04-23-2013 11:55 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  I don't think I will ever be happy as a fan as long as we are in this conference. Obviously I will continue to support Cincinnati in every way possible but every win Cincinnati gets, my satisfaction gained will be conditional. Conditional in the sense that I don't care if we beat Memphis, UCF, USF, etc., all I care about is elevating our program over everyone else so that when the music starts, whenever that may be, Cincinnati won't be left without a chair again.

In two years, Cincinnati has lost its AQ status, membership in the best basketball conference in the nation, its biggest rival (to a much better conference), a F**K ton of money, and will watch Xavier get elevated to comparable status taking MSG with them to boot...and you know what? Cincinnati did nothing wrong, they competed at the highest level in football earning 2 BCS berths, they rebuilt their basketball program after it was completely destroyed to a Sweet 16 run, have made a commitment to renovate Nippert and support its two main sports financially (coaches salaries, indoor practice facilities), and have vastly improved both their academics and campus infrastructure. Sure the city of Cincinnati could have supported their team better. Unlike Louisville, we have to compete with the Bengals and the Reds for fans but still 35k perpetually in the stands should have been doable. Regardless, Cincinnati proved it on the field and on the court time and time again that they belong in the club...instead we were left out in the cold, typical Bearcat luck.

Every single UConn and Cincinnati fan, and to a lesser extent USF fan, has gotten completely screwed and should be severely depressed by the events that have transpired these past two years. Time isn't changing anything, if anything it will only make it worst. Not one of our programs can compete with the good to elite P5 football programs with that money differential as time goes on. Hell, the mediocre to bottom-dweller programs will be tougher to compete with in recruiting and, consequentially, on the field.

The P5 is slowly starving out the lesser programs. Eventually stipends will be permitted to college players and competing at even a comparable level will be impossible to almost every program not in the P5. College sports becomes more and more of a sham every day, even still, I hope the Bearcats are apart of it instead of being left behind fading into irrelevance.

With that said, go Bearcats...I hope we dominate every god d@mn school in football and basketball in this joke of a conference so none of you get that potential chair when the music starts over us. Cincinnati has no friends in this sh!t conference...every other program should feel the exact same way.

Boo hoo. Wait until we start dominating you again.

.

(04-24-2013 08:51 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 08:09 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  You know what fellers'? Winning and good management will cure all your problems. So win and up grade your facilities. The only variable that is hard to control is your fan support, which requires constant attention.
"So just win Baby!"

To be fair, both Cincinnati and UConn *did* win. Cincinnati made it to 2 BCS bowls, would have made the College Football Playoff in 2009 had it existed then, and shared 2 other conference titles even after Brian Kelly left for Notre Dame. UConn made it to a BCS bowl and won 3 national championships in basketball in the BCS era. That's why it's more than justifiable that it's beyond frustrating for them. They *did* win at the highest level yet were still passed over by some schools with fewer recent accomplishments because of factors like location and perceived tradition. (To be sure, Louisville and West Virginia took the proverbial bull by the horns and deserved their elevated places in conference realignment.) These weren't wallflower athletic departments that expected to be part of the big boy club as a result of thinking that everyone should have an equal playing field just because they existed (which is the way a lot of other Gang of Five schools seem to think). They *won* at the highest level and *still* got screwed. The new system might blow for a lot of Gang of Five schools, but it blows in an excruciating way for Cincinnati and UConn specifically. They did everything that people asked them to do (invest in football, build new facilities and just win), yet they're worse off today than they were a year ago.

Bullseye.

(04-24-2013 08:54 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 11:55 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  I don't think I will ever be happy as a fan as long as we are in this conference. Obviously I will continue to support Cincinnati in every way possible but every win Cincinnati gets, my satisfaction gained will be conditional. Conditional in the sense that I don't care if we beat Memphis, UCF, USF, etc., all I care about is elevating our program over everyone else so that when the music starts, whenever that may be, Cincinnati won't be left without a chair again.

In two years, Cincinnati has lost its AQ status, membership in the best basketball conference in the nation, its biggest rival (to a much better conference), a F**K ton of money, and will watch Xavier get elevated to comparable status taking MSG with them to boot...and you know what? Cincinnati did nothing wrong, they competed at the highest level in football earning 2 BCS berths, they rebuilt their basketball program after it was completely destroyed to a Sweet 16 run, have made a commitment to renovate Nippert and support its two main sports financially (coaches salaries, indoor practice facilities), and have vastly improved both their academics and campus infrastructure. Sure the city of Cincinnati could have supported their team better. Unlike Louisville, we have to compete with the Bengals and the Reds for fans but still 35k perpetually in the stands should have been doable. Regardless, Cincinnati proved it on the field and on the court time and time again that they belong in the club...instead we were left out in the cold, typical Bearcat luck.

Every single UConn and Cincinnati fan, and to a lesser extent USF fan, has gotten completely screwed and should be severely depressed by the events that have transpired these past two years. Time isn't changing anything, if anything it will only make it worst. Not one of our programs can compete with the good to elite P5 football programs with that money differential as time goes on. Hell, the mediocre to bottom-dweller programs will be tougher to compete with in recruiting and, consequentially, on the field.

The P5 is slowly starving out the lesser programs. Eventually stipends will be permitted to college players and competing at even a comparable level will be impossible to almost every program not in the P5. College sports becomes more and more of a sham every day, even still, I hope the Bearcats are apart of it instead of being left behind fading into irrelevance.

With that said, go Bearcats...I hope we dominate every god d@mn school in football and basketball in this joke of a conference so none of you get that potential chair when the music starts over us. Cincinnati has no friends in this sh!t conference...every other program should feel the exact same way.

Boo hoo. Wait until we start dominating you again.

.

That will never happen. Miami hasn't beaten UC in basketball since the the
1980's, and we have totally dominated Miami in football, blowout wins for years. UC will blow out Miami next year also.

(04-24-2013 08:55 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 08:51 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 08:09 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  You know what fellers'? Winning and good management will cure all your problems. So win and up grade your facilities. The only variable that is hard to control is your fan support, which requires constant attention.
"So just win Baby!"

To be fair, both Cincinnati and UConn *did* win. Cincinnati made it to 2 BCS bowls, would have made the College Football Playoff in 2009 had it existed then, and shared 2 other conference titles even after Brian Kelly left for Notre Dame. UConn made it to a BCS bowl and won 3 national championships in basketball in the BCS era. That's why it's more than justifiable that it's beyond frustrating for them. They *did* win at the highest level yet were still passed over by some schools with fewer recent accomplishments because of factors like location and perceived tradition. (To be sure, Louisville and West Virginia took the proverbial bull by the horns and deserved their elevated places in conference realignment.) These weren't wallflower athletic departments that expected to be part of the big boy club as a result of thinking that everyone should have an equal playing field just because they existed (which is the way a lot of other Gang of Five schools seem to think). They *won* at the highest level and *still* got screwed. The new system might blow for a lot of Gang of Five schools, but it blows in an excruciating way for Cincinnati and UConn specifically. They did everything that people asked them to do (invest in football, build new facilities and just win), yet they're worse off today than they were a year ago.

Bullseye.

Exactly. I like our current league and the schools but the system totally let UConn and Cincinnati down and the process did the same to our fellow conference mates.

Cincinnati and UConn did win, maybe Louisville won more but you could argue that a lot of schools didn't earn their position.

Aresco is right, we have enough revenue and exposure to compete on the field. Enough of the doom and gloom and lets see who wins championships. I have nothing but respect for our conference mates because they are only striving to be the best.

UC has a losing record to Miami but lets not worry about petty little details about that.

Bring It! Ain't Skeered.....








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(04-24-2013 08:51 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 08:09 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  You know what fellers'? Winning and good management will cure all your problems. So win and up grade your facilities. The only variable that is hard to control is your fan support, which requires constant attention.
"So just win Baby!"

To be fair, both Cincinnati and UConn *did* win. Cincinnati made it to 2 BCS bowls, would have made the College Football Playoff in 2009 had it existed then, and shared 2 other conference titles even after Brian Kelly left for Notre Dame. UConn made it to a BCS bowl and won 3 national championships in basketball in the BCS era. That's why it's more than justifiable that it's beyond frustrating for them. They *did* win at the highest level yet were still passed over by some schools with fewer recent accomplishments because of factors like location and perceived tradition. (To be sure, Louisville and West Virginia took the proverbial bull by the horns and deserved their elevated places in conference realignment.) These weren't wallflower athletic departments that expected to be part of the big boy club as a result of thinking that everyone should have an equal playing field just because they existed (which is the way a lot of other Gang of Five schools seem to think). They *won* at the highest level and *still* got screwed. The new system might blow for a lot of Gang of Five schools, but it blows in an excruciating way for Cincinnati and UConn specifically. They did everything that people asked them to do (invest in football, build new facilities and just win), yet they're worse off today than they were a year ago.

I think that is what's really galling about all of this. What has Mizzou really done to set themselves apart from UConn? What has Rutgers done? What has Maryland done? That is what really gets to most of us. Why does Washington St. and Iowa St. deserve to make so much more TV revenue than we do?