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(05-09-2013 08:52 AM)58-56 Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 08:41 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 08:22 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  It's like we have been saying all along. With the exception of a minuscule amount of TV dollars the ones that defected are in the same pool of teams as we are. Enjoy.
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But uab would join the aac in 5 seconds flat if invited as would any cusa school

Nope. UAB will make its decisions based on the best interests of the university, not what makes the big-money boosters feel the most penile heft. The call will be made by VP of finance Richard Margison and athletic director Brian Mackin, subject to approval by President Ray Watts. The Trustees already granted permission to change conferences (during the proposed merger with the MWC). Margison, not being a fool, will not squander the university's funds to make a lateral conference move. It may sound strange, but there are still officials who understand the concept of "public trust."

But hey, whatever makes you feel good when you look down, feel free to believe it.

I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm on the side of a University doing what "THEY" feel is in "THEIR" best interests. I would like to see UAB improve their football program if that's their commitment.

That having been said, even if your President and VP of Finance have all the good intentions in the world (and the data & money to back it up), you're at the mercy of a Board that's full of Crimson good 'ol boys like Paul Bryant Jr. That's gotta be frustrating.
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(05-09-2013 03:03 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The place to be in the Gof5 is the MWC not the AAC.

They have the best football brand outside the power conferences: Boise State.

WTFever. They have one overrated program they bent over backwards and took the shaft to keep. The AAC is better overall easily. There are bigger budgets in the AAC as well, and the basketball will be at least as good with multiple legit national title contenders.

Quote:They have state flagship and land grand universities and for the most part they're the only game in town not the forgotten stepchild and the 648th choice in their TV markets which is what the AAC, C-USA, MAC and Sun Belt are.

They are flagships of 3rd and 4th tier states no one gives a crap about which is why they are in a non BCS conference. Most of their academics, budgets, etc is worse than many regional eastern schools in real states.

Quote:I really hope UTEP goes back to where we really belong: the MWC. But until that happens, I'll enjoy our stay in C-USA.

They got their 12, they don't want you.
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(05-08-2013 10:45 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  funny how the ones leaving are saying the level of competition is better in AAC and yet they took two bottom feeders from CUSA in Tulane & Memphis

this illustrates another issue...CUSAs basketball identity is gone...we're more in line with the AAC schools.

The seasons where Memphis has maintained Top 25 rankings for any sigificant period of time were accomplished by cheating coaches. Fact.

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You're trolling on the wrong board, Harry.

#Stalkers.

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(05-09-2013 09:11 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 03:03 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The place to be in the Gof5 is the MWC not the AAC.

They have the best football brand outside the power conferences: Boise State.

WTFever. They have one overrated program they bent over backwards and took the shaft to keep. The AAC is better overall easily. There are bigger budgets in the AAC as well, and the basketball will be at least as good with multiple legit national title contenders.

Quote:They have state flagship and land grand universities and for the most part they're the only game in town not the forgotten stepchild and the 648th choice in their TV markets which is what the AAC, C-USA, MAC and Sun Belt are.

They are flagships of 3rd and 4th tier states no one gives a crap about which is why they are in a non BCS conference. Most of their academics, budgets, etc is worse than many regional eastern schools in real states.

Quote:I really hope UTEP goes back to where we really belong: the MWC. But until that happens, I'll enjoy our stay in C-USA.

They got their 12, they don't want you.

If having an overrated football program means they have 2 BCS bowl wins and it's ESPN's darling then that's much better than anything the AAC has to offer. BCS Bowl records: MWC 2-1, AAC 0-3. And if having a bigger budget meant anything then UNLV would rule college football while Boise State would be on the bottom of the rankings. It's all about coaching not budgets.

And BTW, being the flagship university of 3rd or 4th rate state is MUCH better than being the 15th choice in your community which that's why the AAC is all about except for UConn. It must suck that schools like UConn and Cincy and especially the Catholic schools made it clear they don't like the new company they're getting that's why they're flirting with the ACC or broke away and took away the Big East name with them. That my friend is much worse than a conference (the MWC) telling UTEP there's no room for us unless BYU comes along.

The MWC was and should be moving forward the best of the rest. Their record speaks for itself whether an East Carolina fan likes it or not.
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RE: "Changing landscape of college football leaves Cincinnati behind"....
(05-10-2013 02:16 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 09:11 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 03:03 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The place to be in the Gof5 is the MWC not the AAC.

They have the best football brand outside the power conferences: Boise State.

WTFever. They have one overrated program they bent over backwards and took the shaft to keep. The AAC is better overall easily. There are bigger budgets in the AAC as well, and the basketball will be at least as good with multiple legit national title contenders.

Quote:They have state flagship and land grand universities and for the most part they're the only game in town not the forgotten stepchild and the 648th choice in their TV markets which is what the AAC, C-USA, MAC and Sun Belt are.

They are flagships of 3rd and 4th tier states no one gives a crap about which is why they are in a non BCS conference. Most of their academics, budgets, etc is worse than many regional eastern schools in real states.

Quote:I really hope UTEP goes back to where we really belong: the MWC. But until that happens, I'll enjoy our stay in C-USA.

They got their 12, they don't want you.

If having an overrated football program means they have 2 BCS bowl wins and it's ESPN's darling then that's much better than anything the AAC has to offer. BCS Bowl records: MWC 2-1, AAC 0-3. And if having a bigger budget meant anything then UNLV would rule college football while Boise State would be on the bottom of the rankings. It's all about coaching not budgets.

And BTW, being the flagship university of 3rd or 4th rate state is MUCH better than being the 15th choice in your community which that's why the AAC is all about except for UConn. It must suck that schools like UConn and Cincy and especially the Catholic schools made it clear they don't like the new company they're getting that's why they're flirting with the ACC or broke away and took away the Big East name with them. That my friend is much worse than a conference (the MWC) telling UTEP there's no room for us unless BYU comes along.

The MWC was and should be moving forward the best of the rest. Their record speaks for itself whether an East Carolina fan likes it or not.

Just give it a rest. The AAC is irrelevant and the members will find out the hard way this year when an 8-4 AAC team gets left without a bowl, like MTSU did this year.

But ECU fans will be ECU fans, so I'd just give it up, if I were you. It's like arguing with an autistic person, except worse.
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(05-10-2013 05:13 PM)TheNorthTexan Wrote:  
(05-10-2013 02:16 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 09:11 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 03:03 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The place to be in the Gof5 is the MWC not the AAC.

They have the best football brand outside the power conferences: Boise State.

WTFever. They have one overrated program they bent over backwards and took the shaft to keep. The AAC is better overall easily. There are bigger budgets in the AAC as well, and the basketball will be at least as good with multiple legit national title contenders.

Quote:They have state flagship and land grand universities and for the most part they're the only game in town not the forgotten stepchild and the 648th choice in their TV markets which is what the AAC, C-USA, MAC and Sun Belt are.

They are flagships of 3rd and 4th tier states no one gives a crap about which is why they are in a non BCS conference. Most of their academics, budgets, etc is worse than many regional eastern schools in real states.

Quote:I really hope UTEP goes back to where we really belong: the MWC. But until that happens, I'll enjoy our stay in C-USA.

They got their 12, they don't want you.

If having an overrated football program means they have 2 BCS bowl wins and it's ESPN's darling then that's much better than anything the AAC has to offer. BCS Bowl records: MWC 2-1, AAC 0-3. And if having a bigger budget meant anything then UNLV would rule college football while Boise State would be on the bottom of the rankings. It's all about coaching not budgets.

And BTW, being the flagship university of 3rd or 4th rate state is MUCH better than being the 15th choice in your community which that's why the AAC is all about except for UConn. It must suck that schools like UConn and Cincy and especially the Catholic schools made it clear they don't like the new company they're getting that's why they're flirting with the ACC or broke away and took away the Big East name with them. That my friend is much worse than a conference (the MWC) telling UTEP there's no room for us unless BYU comes along.

The MWC was and should be moving forward the best of the rest. Their record speaks for itself whether an East Carolina fan likes it or not.

Just give it a rest. The AAC is irrelevant and the members will find out the hard way this year when an 8-4 AAC team gets left without a bowl, like MTSU did this year.

But ECU fans will be ECU fans, so I'd just give it up, if I were you. It's like arguing with an autistic person, except worse.

Without meaning to offend anyone in particular because I almost understand the "I've got to prove we're better" attitude on both sides, but these arguments on by both groups have reached to the silly stage. Some of the "discussions" are like watching a jr high girls fight.

There ain't nobody that knows how each conference will evolve. It is a fun discussion until it dissolves into nothing but chest pounding and pseudo name calling.

...just an average fan's opinion
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(05-10-2013 05:13 PM)TheNorthTexan Wrote:  
(05-10-2013 02:16 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 09:11 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 03:03 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The place to be in the Gof5 is the MWC not the AAC.

They have the best football brand outside the power conferences: Boise State.

WTFever. They have one overrated program they bent over backwards and took the shaft to keep. The AAC is better overall easily. There are bigger budgets in the AAC as well, and the basketball will be at least as good with multiple legit national title contenders.

Quote:They have state flagship and land grand universities and for the most part they're the only game in town not the forgotten stepchild and the 648th choice in their TV markets which is what the AAC, C-USA, MAC and Sun Belt are.

They are flagships of 3rd and 4th tier states no one gives a crap about which is why they are in a non BCS conference. Most of their academics, budgets, etc is worse than many regional eastern schools in real states.

Quote:I really hope UTEP goes back to where we really belong: the MWC. But until that happens, I'll enjoy our stay in C-USA.

They got their 12, they don't want you.

If having an overrated football program means they have 2 BCS bowl wins and it's ESPN's darling then that's much better than anything the AAC has to offer. BCS Bowl records: MWC 2-1, AAC 0-3. And if having a bigger budget meant anything then UNLV would rule college football while Boise State would be on the bottom of the rankings. It's all about coaching not budgets.

And BTW, being the flagship university of 3rd or 4th rate state is MUCH better than being the 15th choice in your community which that's why the AAC is all about except for UConn. It must suck that schools like UConn and Cincy and especially the Catholic schools made it clear they don't like the new company they're getting that's why they're flirting with the ACC or broke away and took away the Big East name with them. That my friend is much worse than a conference (the MWC) telling UTEP there's no room for us unless BYU comes along.

The MWC was and should be moving forward the best of the rest. Their record speaks for itself whether an East Carolina fan likes it or not.

Just give it a rest. The AAC is irrelevant and the members will find out the hard way this year when an 8-4 AAC team gets left without a bowl, like MTSU did this year.
But ECU fans will be ECU fans, so I'd just give it up, if I were you. It's like arguing with an autistic person, except worse.


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(05-09-2013 10:39 AM)TG4 Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 10:14 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 10:45 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  funny how the ones leaving are saying the level of competition is better in AAC and yet they took two bottom feeders from CUSA in Tulane & Memphis

this illustrates another issue...CUSAs basketball identity is gone...we're more in line with the AAC schools.

The seasons where Memphis has maintained Top 25 rankings for any sigificant period of time were accomplished by cheating coaches. Fact.

Please cite legitimate source confirming your statement of fact that Calipari was censured or punished for cheating by the NCAA.
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(05-10-2013 09:45 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-10-2013 05:13 PM)TheNorthTexan Wrote:  
(05-10-2013 02:16 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 09:11 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 03:03 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The place to be in the Gof5 is the MWC not the AAC.

They have the best football brand outside the power conferences: Boise State.

WTFever. They have one overrated program they bent over backwards and took the shaft to keep. The AAC is better overall easily. There are bigger budgets in the AAC as well, and the basketball will be at least as good with multiple legit national title contenders.

Quote:They have state flagship and land grand universities and for the most part they're the only game in town not the forgotten stepchild and the 648th choice in their TV markets which is what the AAC, C-USA, MAC and Sun Belt are.

They are flagships of 3rd and 4th tier states no one gives a crap about which is why they are in a non BCS conference. Most of their academics, budgets, etc is worse than many regional eastern schools in real states.

Quote:I really hope UTEP goes back to where we really belong: the MWC. But until that happens, I'll enjoy our stay in C-USA.

They got their 12, they don't want you.

If having an overrated football program means they have 2 BCS bowl wins and it's ESPN's darling then that's much better than anything the AAC has to offer. BCS Bowl records: MWC 2-1, AAC 0-3. And if having a bigger budget meant anything then UNLV would rule college football while Boise State would be on the bottom of the rankings. It's all about coaching not budgets.

And BTW, being the flagship university of 3rd or 4th rate state is MUCH better than being the 15th choice in your community which that's why the AAC is all about except for UConn. It must suck that schools like UConn and Cincy and especially the Catholic schools made it clear they don't like the new company they're getting that's why they're flirting with the ACC or broke away and took away the Big East name with them. That my friend is much worse than a conference (the MWC) telling UTEP there's no room for us unless BYU comes along.

The MWC was and should be moving forward the best of the rest. Their record speaks for itself whether an East Carolina fan likes it or not.

Just give it a rest. The AAC is irrelevant and the members will find out the hard way this year when an 8-4 AAC team gets left without a bowl, like MTSU did this year.
But ECU fans will be ECU fans, so I'd just give it up, if I were you. It's like arguing with an autistic person, except worse.


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Um, Aresco said the other day during a radio interview that th AAC will have between 6 and 7 bowl games. In your fury and envy of North Texas not making it to a bowl game in 9 years, you erroneously compared our bowl situation to the Sun Belt bowl situation. MTSU did not make a bowl game last year because of limited access to bowl games by the Sun Belt. Something the AAC will not have to worry about.
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Okay, when the bowl committees are looking for people for their bowls, they will go...

"MWC? That's a good conference. Invite them."
"CUSA? That's a good conference. Invite them."
"What's an AAC? Isn't that an arena in Dallas? Did you mean the ACC?"

Good luck on your future in a conference that won't exist in 2016 once the big universities break away and leave us all fighting for the scraps.
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(05-10-2013 06:35 AM)TG4 Wrote:  Just remember this date......September 14th. Be there.

You calling me out? I'll meet you out in the parking lot with my cleats.
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(05-10-2013 10:13 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
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(05-08-2013 10:45 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  funny how the ones leaving are saying the level of competition is better in AAC and yet they took two bottom feeders from CUSA in Tulane & Memphis

this illustrates another issue...CUSAs basketball identity is gone...we're more in line with the AAC schools.

The seasons where Memphis has maintained Top 25 rankings for any sigificant period of time were accomplished by cheating coaches. Fact.

Please cite legitimate source confirming your statement of fact that Calipari was censured or punished for cheating by the NCAA.

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(05-11-2013 05:26 AM)TG4 Wrote:  
(05-10-2013 10:13 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 10:39 AM)TG4 Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 10:14 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 10:45 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  funny how the ones leaving are saying the level of competition is better in AAC and yet they took two bottom feeders from CUSA in Tulane & Memphis

this illustrates another issue...CUSAs basketball identity is gone...we're more in line with the AAC schools.

The seasons where Memphis has maintained Top 25 rankings for any sigificant period of time were accomplished by cheating coaches. Fact.

Please cite legitimate source confirming your statement of fact that Calipari was censured or punished for cheating by the NCAA.

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Your reply indicates that the only fact is your inability to support your statement.

If you are unwilling or unable to back up your posts, then either do not make them or admit the error.
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TG4 is just a bitter, butthurt punk.
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(05-11-2013 08:50 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  TG4 is just a bitter, butthurt punk.

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The AAC is in the same pool of teams as C-USA, MWC, MAC, and the Sun Belt. The sooner these guys accept it the soon they can get over themselves.
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(05-12-2013 07:44 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  The AAC is in the same pool of teams as C-USA, MWC, MAC, and the Sun Belt. The sooner these guys accept it the soon they can get over themselves.

True.........very true.
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(05-12-2013 07:44 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  The AAC is in the same pool of teams as C-USA, MWC, MAC, and the Sun Belt. The sooner these guys accept it the soon they can get over themselves.

True and that group will be fighting for the lone playoff slot reserved for the non "Power" conferences starting in 2014.

I might not like the answer, but what is the media payout, network, and bowl affiliation for each conference? I think the bowl affiliation for the AAC has not yet been finalized.
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