(06-14-2013 12:26 AM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 11:49 PM)Dracorex Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 07:27 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 06:58 PM)jag313 Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 05:19 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  Don't forget you've got one of the annointed as your coach, so they're leaving ya'll alone. As one of the original club football teams members/officers from the mid 80's, I hope ya'll do make it & they never "impede" your growth but don't think that if they ever perceive you as being a threat to "the precious" in any way, shape or form that they won't start to treat you as they do us.

Good points. However, I am pleased with Coach Jones to this point. His alligance seems to be more with the city (he is from Mobile) than UAT. When media guys force him into talking about his days at Bama he quickly change the focus back to USA.

As far as them impeding our growth, I really don't know what they could do since we are no way tied to them and the majority of funding comes from student fees ( as voted on by the students some years ago).

Lastly, you guys are definitely the more established program, but with that being said can we get a home and home? The annual basketball game is one of if not the best OOC game we play.

Like a parasite they infest & control state politics & thus the state so would control university funding. Piss them off & find out how much funding you lose. AU has a strong enough contingent/powerbase (as well as know of a few UAT closet skeletons) that they can hold their own w/ The Machine. If The Machine had it's way no one would exist in the state except them even AU wouldn't be around. Gollum/Precious is the best representation of them as a picture/icon that can be made though someone on BT had a pic of PBJ merged into the Grinch that was awfully close to being another icon.

I wouldn't mind more HnH in fb/bb vs ya'll as I think it's good for the fans/rivalry.

this image was one of the two that was merged with the grinch image. It was under my old name and I don't remember the other image of it. That is if you're referring to thing one.

Funny how the Crimson Tide connection even pooh-pooh'ed North Texas several years ago, too.

UNT had hired former UA Coach Gene Stallings as an athletic consultant to make some suggestions for a direction of our program. One of the quotes I will never forget him saying before about 500 of us supporters in one of the Super Pit conference rooms was "North Texas doesn't need to ever worry about building a new football stadium."

Even more amazing was how UNT paid him some serious bucks to utter such lagniape!

I used to feel bad for Charlotte and all the other state schools in NC that get dominated by the folks in Chapel Hill, but not anymore, after hearing about all this U of A corruption. . Now my sympathy is with UAB. We have it made compared to you guys. Keep fighting the good fight! Your day of freedom will come.

(06-13-2013 09:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 10:12 AM)jag313 Wrote:  This is why I am so thankful USA is not a part of the UA system. For better or worse, we stand on our own. Sink or swim. This decision was made decades ago for this very reason.

When USA was chartered in May 1963, the Alabama legislature specifically mandated that it was to be a racially integrated university. At the time, all college campuses in the state were either all-white or all-black, so that was a big step in those days. I don't know this for a fact, but I strongly suspect that the University of Alabama board-of-trustees didn't want responsibility for dealing with that situation.

UAB has never been segregated.

One source of pride to me is that the governor of the state didn't make an ass of himself in front of the world on our front porch.

Would there be any interest in UAB fans possibly using the Hoover Met?
Since the Barons are at the new park downtown, isn't that stadium without a tenant?

It's much smaller, but I think that temporary seats could be brought out and get it over 15-20 k. it might not be ideal, but maybe it would send a message to the city to try to get a smaller stadium built for the team and other civic events.

I'd rather stay at Legion Field than play at the Met.

1. It's too small, even for UAB crowds.

2. It sucks for football.

3. It's UAB, not UA-Hoover

(06-14-2013 09:01 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 09:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  When USA was chartered in May 1963, the Alabama legislature specifically mandated that it was to be a racially integrated university. At the time, all college campuses in the state were either all-white or all-black, so that was a big step in those days. I don't know this for a fact, but I strongly suspect that the University of Alabama board-of-trustees didn't want responsibility for dealing with that situation.

UAB has never been segregated.

When did UAB come into existence?

(06-14-2013 09:52 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(06-14-2013 09:01 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 09:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  When USA was chartered in May 1963, the Alabama legislature specifically mandated that it was to be a racially integrated university. At the time, all college campuses in the state were either all-white or all-black, so that was a big step in those days. I don't know this for a fact, but I strongly suspect that the University of Alabama board-of-trustees didn't want responsibility for dealing with that situation.

UAB has never been segregated.

When did UAB come into existence?

UAB became an autonomous (so to speak) institution in 1969.

The medical school is a little older, though.

http://www.uab.edu/archives/chron

So your statement and mine are consistent.

I would also be glad that George Wallace did not make an ass of himself on my front porch. But if my front porch hadn't been built in 1963, that seems to make the issue a moot point, no?

(06-14-2013 09:38 AM)MichealBond Wrote:  Would there be any interest in UAB fans possibly using the Hoover Met?
Since the Barons are at the new park downtown, isn't that stadium without a tenant?

It's much smaller, but I think that temporary seats could be brought out and get it over 15-20 k. it might not be ideal, but maybe it would send a message to the city to try to get a smaller stadium built for the team and other civic events.

Suggestion appreciated, but it may be the most unpopular alternative/ option among UAB Football fans. The Hoover Met, right now, is still the current host for the s.e.c baseball tournament, and the NCAA Soccer Tournament, too, it's not hurting for occupants, just doesn't have a more existant tenant for baseball, when you see our new stadium downtown, you'll see why, it has transformed the area and generated quite a "buzz", imagine what a new football stadium in the same general area would do. Thing is, no other NCAA football program in this state has had to dance thru so many hoops as UAB has for what should be a slam dunk idea for constructing an oncampus football stadium. It's rather embarrassing for an institution as large and prosperous as UAB to be subjected to such blatant political and systematic constipation at the hands of others with a clear agenda of their own, & for its football program to not have a contemporary, modern facility to put in work in this day and age, & the city should be embarrassed by the mere existence of Legion & Lawson Field, IMO, Birmingham's city government has only shown that when it comes to football-related projects, it is "sackless" (I know, "BNBF" about the MAPS vs. RAPS conflict of 1998, but, still, to entrust your city's future to those who obviously mean you no good is imprudent, an alternative plan of their own should have been in place in case the referendum went sideways, which obviously, it did), the few tenants we do have left, they should have far better provisions in place, instead, we're being subjected to considering the Hoover Met as an alternative, or waiting for a dome stadium that may or may not ever come to fruition, having been part of local watercooler talk for over 20 years now, without so much as a girder having been raised in its' construction, the longer it takes, the more disenchanting I think it will become, at least where UAB athletics/football is concerned. The Mayor Of Huntsville said it best: "What good is being part of a system when that system is clearly not in support of you?" FreeUAB...before it's too late! Let "Mad Stan" have Legion Field...

So as of today, is there any plans to possibly move around the board in some legal way to get a new stadium?

Any other potential facilities that UAB could use?

The board must approve any use of funds over a certain amount (just a few thousand IIRC). Even if I donated $50 million to UAB, the BOT would still have to approve use of those funds for construction of a stadium.

(06-14-2013 10:22 AM)monarchman Wrote:  So as of today, is there any plans to possibly move around the board in some legal way to get a new stadium?

Any other potential facilities that UAB could use?

Afraid not. The state government's in bed with them, too, so any kind of grassroots movement is going to be an uphill battle (FreeUAB has a place at this BBS that may supply additional info on possible, but improbable board of trustee circumventions) . No other viable facilities in Birmingham or Jefferson County that I'm aware of. I shall seek further insight today.

(06-14-2013 08:33 AM)BlazerDave Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 05:28 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  Was there any renditions of the possible OCS in the proposal?

#FreeUAB

Awesome, thank you.

(06-14-2013 10:22 AM)monarchman Wrote:  Any other potential facilities that UAB could use?

No. Legion Field is the best available option, currently.

One doesn't know whether to laugh or cry.

(06-14-2013 10:34 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  The board must approve any use of funds over a certain amount (just a few thousand IIRC). Even if I donated $50 million to UAB, the BOT would still have to approve use of those funds for construction of a stadium.

True as it may be, the analogy doesn't make sense.

If you had $50 million, you'd just build the stadium yourself and let UAB use it for free (while getting revenue from other events) instead of donating the money.

While my building a stadium is out of their control other than being in the state itself & hence would be dealing with their nefarious meddling anyway, I'm sure UAB entering into a contract to use my facility would fall under their reign of terror.

(06-14-2013 09:36 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  While my building a stadium is out of their control other than being in the state itself & hence would be dealing with their nefarious meddling anyway, I'm sure UAB entering into a contract to use my facility would fall under their reign of terror.

Yes, but at that point, they couldn't risk the national uproar of denying UAB the permission to use a brand new facility built in their own backyard.

I wouldn't hold my breath for them to come up with any reason from UAB already has a stadium to something as inane as color of tp in stalls, would you?

(06-14-2013 10:14 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  I wouldn't hold my breath for them to come up with any reason from UAB already has a stadium to something as inane as color of tp in stalls, would you?

I would.

They aren't that stupid. If UAB had a couple of big time backers, they wouldn't risk the public outcry. They almost got over their own heads last time.

Question from waaaay out in left field (pun intended, see below.)

Has any thought been given to moving games out of Legion Field to one of the MiLB parks in the area? If there is room to put a field in the new park downtown with temporary bleachers along the visitor's sideline (like what they did for the College Cup games in Hoover) then it could be better than Legion, no? Even if attendance doesn't rise, a capacity crowd in a new-ish ballpark, even if it isn't being used to intent, would provide a much better atmosphere and fan experience than the same crowd in a massive and dilapidated facility.

Not to mention it would be a fantastic middle finger to those fools in tuckaloosy.

The new ballpark does not have the necessary dimensions to host football.