(06-25-2013 11:40 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 11:35 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 12:53 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(06-24-2013 08:51 PM)banker Wrote:  ECU played 4 teams with a winning record last year.

It was FIVE, 6 if you want to count App State who was far superior to the D1aa scrub you played.

11-2 South Carolina
10-4 UCF
9-4 UL-L
8-4 North Carolina
8-5 Navy


Marshall played 6

11-3 Tulsa
10-4 UCF
9-4 Ohio
8-5 ECU
7-6 Rice
7-6 West Virginia

Forgive me for not being impressed with that 3 point win over 7-6 Rice or those other stud teams you played. I'd put 11-2 South Carolina up against anyone on your schedule. You are dogging us and we happen to be one of the winning teams, which is the entire difference. Ironic.

Quote:They went 0-4 in those games and lost by a combined score of 158-70.

....and you got smashed like you always do by 7-6 West Virginia 69 to something alone, and lost to a $hitastic 3 win UAB team. Who exactly that sucked like that did we lose too? Our SOS was ranked higher on just about every computer poll I looked at, just like our team. The only one it wasn't was Sagarin and it was with in a few spots and a marginal difference. So would you rather have had 8 wins vs the 112th SOS or 5 vs the 106th like you guys on there? Your schedule was just as bad.

Quote:You'll have to excuse me if I don't see the same unstoppable force that SJ apparently sees.

and you'll have to excuse me for not getting wrapped up in the hype around here of a 5-7 (4-4) team that we beat when we return everyone and had a better season.

You beat UAB by 7 f'ing points. Just shut the hell up and quit taking cheap shots at my team. It has no place in your argument. Saying you lost to a 3 win UAB team will get your point across.

7 is an interesting number. We also haven't lost to you in 7 years.

Woopty damn doo. Would you like a trophy for that or something? Don't sit here and say Marshall sucks because they lost to UAB and then pound your chest because you beat UAB by 7 points.

(06-25-2013 12:05 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 11:40 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 11:35 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 12:53 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(06-24-2013 08:51 PM)banker Wrote:  ECU played 4 teams with a winning record last year.

It was FIVE, 6 if you want to count App State who was far superior to the D1aa scrub you played.

11-2 South Carolina
10-4 UCF
9-4 UL-L
8-4 North Carolina
8-5 Navy


Marshall played 6

11-3 Tulsa
10-4 UCF
9-4 Ohio
8-5 ECU
7-6 Rice
7-6 West Virginia

Forgive me for not being impressed with that 3 point win over 7-6 Rice or those other stud teams you played. I'd put 11-2 South Carolina up against anyone on your schedule. You are dogging us and we happen to be one of the winning teams, which is the entire difference. Ironic.

Quote:They went 0-4 in those games and lost by a combined score of 158-70.

....and you got smashed like you always do by 7-6 West Virginia 69 to something alone, and lost to a $hitastic 3 win UAB team. Who exactly that sucked like that did we lose too? Our SOS was ranked higher on just about every computer poll I looked at, just like our team. The only one it wasn't was Sagarin and it was with in a few spots and a marginal difference. So would you rather have had 8 wins vs the 112th SOS or 5 vs the 106th like you guys on there? Your schedule was just as bad.

Quote:You'll have to excuse me if I don't see the same unstoppable force that SJ apparently sees.

and you'll have to excuse me for not getting wrapped up in the hype around here of a 5-7 (4-4) team that we beat when we return everyone and had a better season.

You beat UAB by 7 f'ing points. Just shut the hell up and quit taking cheap shots at my team. It has no place in your argument. Saying you lost to a 3 win UAB team will get your point across.

7 is an interesting number. We also haven't lost to you in 7 years.

Woopty damn doo. Would you like a trophy for that or something? Don't sit here and say Marshall sucks because they lost to UAB and then pound your chest because you beat UAB by 7 points.

lol. I didn't

(06-25-2013 09:53 AM)TheNorthTexan Wrote:  The CUSA is a massive step down as far as competition goes.

I don't think adding UNT brought the conference down THAT much!

(06-25-2013 12:15 PM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 09:53 AM)TheNorthTexan Wrote:  The CUSA is a massive step down as far as competition goes.

I don't think adding UNT brought the conference down THAT much!

(06-25-2013 12:15 PM)Luckyshot Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 09:53 AM)TheNorthTexan Wrote:  The CUSA is a massive step down as far as competition goes.

I don't think adding UNT brought the conference down THAT much!

Touche. LOL.

UAB fan. Our team won all the games we should have last year. 7-1 in CUSA. Marshall didn't 5-7(4-4). If they want to pick at our record a loss to a 3 win UAB team is certainly going to get pointed out.

Let's take it a step further SJ. In the last two years ECU is 0-10 against FBS teams with a winning record. So the key to beating ECU is pretty obvious, just be good enough to win 6 games and you're good enough to beat ECU.

With your OOC schedule I'm starting to think you guys won't be bowl eligible this year. I didn't realize where all your wins were coming from.

(06-25-2013 12:37 PM)banker Wrote:  Let's take it a step further SJ. In the last two years ECU is 0-10 against FBS teams with a winning record. So the key to beating ECU is pretty obvious, just be good enough to win 6 games and you're good enough to beat ECU.

So now you want to go back 2 years? He'll lets go back three then which is the entire Ruff tenure and included Dominic Davis and most of the players on the team 2 years ago not that I think even 2 years ago really matters to the coming season. That team beat TWO teams that finished in the top 25 that season under Ruff. So how many teams has Marshall beat that finished top 25 in the last decade? How many has Doc beat at Marshall? This should be fun.

8-5 (7-1)
5-7 (4-4)

We both return everyone, those numbers are all that all you really need to know. We haven't got a worse team than Marshall and if you are wanting to dig back we have certainly out classed you guys for a long time and have a program that looks like a legit mid level BCS one in the stands.

(06-25-2013 12:34 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  UAB fan. Our team won all the games we should have last year. 7-1 in CUSA. Marshall didn't 5-7(4-4). If they want to pick at our record a loss to a 3 win UAB team is certainly going to get pointed out.

And that's fine. Don't put **** and UAB in the same sentence, *****. I understand that ECU is the greatest football team in the history of football ever, but not everybody can be ECU. I am proud of my school and what they are working towards. I'm am tired of you being a dick in every thread and continuously putting down seemingly every school that will be in C-USA when you're gone.

East:
1) Marshall
2) ECU
3) MTSU
4) UAB/ S. Miss
6) FIU
7) FAU

West:
1) Tulsa
2) Rice
3) LaTech
4) UTEP/North Texas
6) Tulane
7) UTSA

Overall:
1) Tulsa
2) Marshall/Rice
4) MTSU/ECU
6) LaTech
7) UAB/S. Miss
9) UTEP/North Texas
11) Tulane
12) FIU
13) FAU
14) UTSA

I hate to place UTSA dead last because I think they are a well coached program with a bright future, but I just don't think they will have the depth to compete every week in their first year playing a real FBS schedule.

Phil Steele's computers seem to think it's Marshall: http://www.philsteele.com/Blogs/2013/JUN...une25.html

Predicting C-USA... ...hahaha. I've learned that you cannot count on any team in this conference to take care of business. The only team that is at least semi-reliable is Tulsa.

East:
1) ECU
2) MTSU
3) Marshall
4) Southern Miss
5) FAU
6) UAB
7) FIU

UAB, FIU, and FAU are interchangeable. Southern Miss finally has a coach again. Marshall will be an average C-USA team this season - and will go bowling provided they don't soil the bed in non-conference play. MTSU is MUCH better than anyone gives them credit for - and will push ECU for the division title all season long.

West:
1) Tulsa
2) Rice
3) UTEP
4) Tulane
5) North Texas
6) Louisiana Tech
7) UTSA

Virtually nothing stands between 3rd and 6th. Louisiana Tech must rebuild. North Texas will have some rough sledding thanks early on and will play better in the 2nd half of the season. Tulane has FINALLY done at least an average job recruiting in these past two summers and won't be out-gunned as they were from 2005-2012. Tulsa and Rice should both coast to bowls.

Overall:
1) Tulsa
2) ECU
3) MTSU
4) Rice
5) Marshall
6) UTEP
7) Southern Miss
8) Tulane
9) North Texas
10) Louisiana Tech
11) FAU
12) UAB
13) FIU
14) UTSA

(06-25-2013 02:12 PM)ODUR8R Wrote:  Phil Steele's computers seem to think it's Marshall: http://www.philsteele.com/Blogs/2013/JUN...une25.html

I've bought Steele's mag every year since 2002. He is consistently wrong about our team. Last year he predicted us 3rd in the East behind 0-12 USM and we were tied for 1st just to give you an example. He never picked our championship teams either. Every year we seem to exceed his expectations so I doubt this is any different. He will use about 50 pages of his mag to tell you how accurate he is but he gets a lot of $hit wrong too.

(06-25-2013 02:53 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 02:12 PM)ODUR8R Wrote:  Phil Steele's computers seem to think it's Marshall: http://www.philsteele.com/Blogs/2013/JUN...une25.html

I've bought Steele's mag every year since 2002. He is consistently wrong about our team. Last year he predicted us 3rd in the East behind 0-12 USM and we were tied for 1st just to give you an example. He never picked our championship teams either. Every year we seem to exceed his expectations so I doubt this is any different. He will use about 50 pages of his mag to tell you how accurate he is but he gets a lot of $hit wrong too.

I agree. He projected ODU to average 113 yards less passing per game in 2013 than 2012 despite the fact that we will likely be playing from behind far more often.

He also projects ODU to go from averaging 45 points a game to 35 which is a huge dropoff.

(06-25-2013 02:12 PM)ODUR8R Wrote:  Phil Steele's computers seem to think it's Marshall: http://www.philsteele.com/Blogs/2013/JUN...une25.html

As much as I respect Marshall and their program I can't buy them winning the east. They're going to have to prove to me they can play some form of defense. You don't win championships with an Idaho-esque defense circa 2000-01 that allows 40+ per game and big play after big play. Further, with a new coordinator there is always an acclimation period and results are rarely immediate. It takes time to fix problems and bad habits.

Even if they improve their defense statistically by a significant 20% that still translates into allowing 32 points per game which would only put them in the mid to lower half of C-USA historically in defense. That may translate into one or two more wins but not championship caliber. Defense wins championships, and Marshall has a lot of work to do there IMO. That said I know there is a little bit of skewing as a result of overtime games, but in my mind aside from Southern Miss, Marshall has one of the most questionable units on the defensive side of the ball as anyone in the league.

Phil Steele will be on ECU's Pirate Radio this afternoon to talk about his rankings if you care to listen

(06-25-2013 12:05 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 11:40 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 11:35 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 12:53 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(06-24-2013 08:51 PM)banker Wrote:  ECU played 4 teams with a winning record last year.

It was FIVE, 6 if you want to count App State who was far superior to the D1aa scrub you played.

11-2 South Carolina
10-4 UCF
9-4 UL-L
8-4 North Carolina
8-5 Navy


Marshall played 6

11-3 Tulsa
10-4 UCF
9-4 Ohio
8-5 ECU
7-6 Rice
7-6 West Virginia

Forgive me for not being impressed with that 3 point win over 7-6 Rice or those other stud teams you played. I'd put 11-2 South Carolina up against anyone on your schedule. You are dogging us and we happen to be one of the winning teams, which is the entire difference. Ironic.

Quote:They went 0-4 in those games and lost by a combined score of 158-70.

....and you got smashed like you always do by 7-6 West Virginia 69 to something alone, and lost to a $hitastic 3 win UAB team. Who exactly that sucked like that did we lose too? Our SOS was ranked higher on just about every computer poll I looked at, just like our team. The only one it wasn't was Sagarin and it was with in a few spots and a marginal difference. So would you rather have had 8 wins vs the 112th SOS or 5 vs the 106th like you guys on there? Your schedule was just as bad.

Quote:You'll have to excuse me if I don't see the same unstoppable force that SJ apparently sees.

and you'll have to excuse me for not getting wrapped up in the hype around here of a 5-7 (4-4) team that we beat when we return everyone and had a better season.

You beat UAB by 7 f'ing points. Just shut the hell up and quit taking cheap shots at my team. It has no place in your argument. Saying you lost to a 3 win UAB team will get your point across.

7 is an interesting number. We also haven't lost to you in 7 years.

Woopty damn doo. Would you like a trophy for that or something? Don't sit here and say Marshall sucks because they lost to UAB and then pound your chest because you beat UAB by 7 points.

Trophy? Nah we got two already.

(06-24-2013 03:01 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  Just for discussions sake since nothing else is going on, give your power rankings for CUSA East and West and overall.

East:
1) Marshall
1) ECU
2) S.Miss
3) MTSU
4) UAB
5) FAU
6) FIU

West:
1) Tulsa
2) Rice
3) LaTech
4) UTEP
5) North Texas
6) Tulane
7) UTSA

Overall:
1) Tulsa
2) Marshall
2) ECU
3) Rice
4) S.Miss
5) MTSU
6) LaTech
7) UAB
8) UTEP
9) North Texas
10) Tulane
11) FAU
12) UTSA
13) FIU

(06-25-2013 12:47 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 12:37 PM)banker Wrote:  Let's take it a step further SJ. In the last two years ECU is 0-10 against FBS teams with a winning record. So the key to beating ECU is pretty obvious, just be good enough to win 6 games and you're good enough to beat ECU.

So now you want to go back 2 years? He'll lets go back three then which is the entire Ruff tenure and included Dominic Davis and most of the players on the team 2 years ago not that I think even 2 years ago really matters to the coming season. That team beat TWO teams that finished in the top 25 that season under Ruff. So how many teams has Marshall beat that finished top 25 in the last decade? How many has Doc beat at Marshall? This should be fun.

8-5 (7-1)
5-7 (4-4)

We both return everyone, those numbers are all that all you really need to know. We haven't got a worse team than Marshall and if you are wanting to dig back we have certainly out classed you guys for a long time and have a program that looks like a legit mid level BCS one in the stands.

So what you're saying is Ruff could beat top 25 teams with Skip's players before he spent the last few years softening them up and losing that toughness Skip instilled. Now that the team is soft they get blown out by every good team (actually, every above average) team they play.

Keep living on your double overtime victory at home last year. It will be your last win in the series.

(06-25-2013 08:12 PM)banker Wrote:  

(06-24-2013 03:01 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  Just for discussions sake since nothing else is going on, give your power rankings for CUSA East and West and overall.

East:
1) Marshall
1) ECU
2) S.Miss
3) MTSU
4) UAB
5) FAU
6) FIU

West:
1) Tulsa
2) Rice
3) LaTech
4) UTEP
5) North Texas
6) Tulane
7) UTSA

Overall:
1) Tulsa
2) Marshall
2) ECU
3) Rice
4) S.Miss
5) MTSU
6) LaTech
7) UAB
8) UTEP
9) North Texas
10) Tulane
11) FAU
12) UTSA
13) FIU

(06-25-2013 12:47 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 12:37 PM)banker Wrote:  Let's take it a step further SJ. In the last two years ECU is 0-10 against FBS teams with a winning record. So the key to beating ECU is pretty obvious, just be good enough to win 6 games and you're good enough to beat ECU.

So now you want to go back 2 years? He'll lets go back three then which is the entire Ruff tenure and included Dominic Davis and most of the players on the team 2 years ago not that I think even 2 years ago really matters to the coming season. That team beat TWO teams that finished in the top 25 that season under Ruff. So how many teams has Marshall beat that finished top 25 in the last decade? How many has Doc beat at Marshall? This should be fun.

8-5 (7-1)
5-7 (4-4)

We both return everyone, those numbers are all that all you really need to know. We haven't got a worse team than Marshall and if you are wanting to dig back we have certainly out classed you guys for a long time and have a program that looks like a legit mid level BCS one in the stands.

So what you're saying is Ruff could beat top 25 teams with Skip's players before he spent the last few years softening them up and losing that toughness Skip instilled. Now that the team is soft they get blown out by every good team (actually, every above average) team they play.

Keep living on your double overtime victory at home last year. It will be your last win in the series.

Oh, please, what players? 34 lettermen gone after the 2009 season, 9 of 11 starters on defense, our best two returning players on the front 7 on D were walk ons.

Talk all the crap to SJ you want, about him, leave the rest of us and ECU out of it. Especially when your post is so far from the truth it's sad.

(06-25-2013 12:47 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(06-25-2013 12:37 PM)banker Wrote:  Let's take it a step further SJ. In the last two years ECU is 0-10 against FBS teams with a winning record. So the key to beating ECU is pretty obvious, just be good enough to win 6 games and you're good enough to beat ECU.

So now you want to go back 2 years? He'll lets go back three then which is the entire Ruff tenure and included Dominic Davis and most of the players on the team 2 years ago not that I think even 2 years ago really matters to the coming season. That team beat TWO teams that finished in the top 25 that season under Ruff. So how many teams has Marshall beat that finished top 25 in the last decade? How many has Doc beat at Marshall? This should be fun.

8-5 (7-1)
5-7 (4-4)

We both return everyone, those numbers are all that all you really need to know. We haven't got a worse team than Marshall and if you are wanting to dig back we have certainly out classed you guys for a long time and have a program that looks like a legit mid level BCS one in the stands.

USM 2011