Like anybody thought this committee was going to be fair. Greed and corruption will be college footballs undoing. When a system is designed to only keep 30 teams in power, people will eventually change the channel. Let a few years of 9-3 Ohio State or 10-2 Oklahoma get in over an undefeated Southern Miss or Boise or even Washington St. and Baylor and I guarantee people will get sick of it, I know I am already sick of it.

(07-17-2013 01:41 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 10:49 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 10:30 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  None of the five is willing to go unrepresented on the committee. The debates over who gets the final playoff berth each year will be epic.

That's the reason. The AD from each league will have the thankless task of going back after the teams are announced to listen to the complaints about why Team X from their league wasn't chosen for the four-team playoff.

On the bright side, if you want to see an expanded playoff of 8 teams or more, those 5 ADs will probably become the biggest advocates for a larger playoff.

But they are supposed to recuse themselves when their conference's team is discussed. Not sure how well that works with a 4 team playoff (or 8). With 65 or 68 it works just fine.

Actually, they are only to recuse themsleves if their team is discussed, not anyone from their conference.

I could see the committee getting 1 or 2 AD's from G5 just to try to block the corruption part

ND going to have representation with their AD?

(07-17-2013 01:37 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:14 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  How can you have a selection committee with only 5 people on it which just happens to be the same number of P5 conferences? They're shameless.

Read the article. There's going to be more than 5 people on the committee. The source said that the P5 will each have one AD on the committee among the other members which will be retired coaches, retired media members, etc. Bill Hancock had said previously that the committee would be 15-20 people, but then again, he also said that no active AD's would be on the committee.

Which conferences will the retired coaches be from? And the media isn't exactly friendly to the G5 schools.

Yeah, I love the notion that retired coaches will (a) know more and (b) be impartial. Most of them get out and simply become a fan if that, and almost all of them still do speaking engagements and so forth with fan bases that remember and love them and somehow that "love them" part is going to have a great deal of influence on their thought processes. I also love how retired media personalities (who also go on the lecture and book circuit) are deemed impartial since they risk deals and sales if they go against their regions.

It is a lot like a high school beauty pageant. The judges show up and get paid, but the daughter of the wealthiest person in the town wins (no matter how she looks or how talented she is) because that is what the judges find in their best interest. The networks will speak (through those retired media guys) and the richest schools will be selected along with 1 or 2 schools that simply couldn't be refused for that year. Everyone else will get a scholarship for talent or congeniality in one of the non-playoff bowls.

This thread is hilarious. Are you people really having this big of an eye opening experience with this "revelation"?

I can understand why some fans of G5 schools would be upset but this is hardly the biggest blow. The moment it became a 4 team tournament instead of being bigger, every single one of you should have seen this coming. Crying and complaining about this happening is like bitching and moaning that the Sun came up this morning.

Been telling you folks that we will absolutely see an 8 team playoff sooner than most folks think. The power struggle we are seeing for the four slot playoff makes the 8 team tournament absolutely inevitable and the longer it is held off the more nasty the whole situation will get publicly.

As Charles Barkley would say, this is a "turrible" idea!! Most AD's are administrators with no understanding of football. Considering an AD has a built-in "profit motive" to have a conference affiliated school in the playoff, I cannot imagine how anyone thought this was a good idea.

(07-17-2013 02:25 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 01:41 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 10:49 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 10:30 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  None of the five is willing to go unrepresented on the committee. The debates over who gets the final playoff berth each year will be epic.

That's the reason. The AD from each league will have the thankless task of going back after the teams are announced to listen to the complaints about why Team X from their league wasn't chosen for the four-team playoff.

On the bright side, if you want to see an expanded playoff of 8 teams or more, those 5 ADs will probably become the biggest advocates for a larger playoff.

But they are supposed to recuse themselves when their conference's team is discussed. Not sure how well that works with a 4 team playoff (or 8). With 65 or 68 it works just fine.

Actually, they are only to recuse themsleves if their team is discussed, not anyone from their conference.

Yes, I skimmed over that section of the article.

(07-17-2013 05:07 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  This thread is hilarious. Are you people really having this big of an eye opening experience with this "revelation"?

I can understand why some fans of G5 schools would be upset but this is hardly the biggest blow. The moment it became a 4 team tournament instead of being bigger, every single one of you should have seen this coming. Crying and complaining about this happening is like bitching and moaning that the Sun came up this morning.

Been telling you folks that we will absolutely see an 8 team playoff sooner than most folks think. The power struggle we are seeing for the four slot playoff makes the 8 team tournament absolutely inevitable and the longer it is held off the more nasty the whole situation will get publicly.

Which begs the question---why didn't they just do that in the first place?

Baby Steps. We all know how it works. They won't jump directly from 4 to 8.

Instead the next step is seeds #4 and #5 will have to play a play-in game the week after the CCG's. The intial justification will be anyone ranked in the top 4 that did not play in a CCG will have to play a play-in game to get to the final 4. This will make every conference strongly consider adding a CCG and make Notre Dame join a conference.

then later they will add another play-in game and they will just start calling it the first round. They will change the rule so that anyone will be eligible for the first round but you need to win your CCG to get a first round bye.

Eventually they will expand to 8 with no first round byes. Baby steps.

(07-17-2013 05:20 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  As Charles Barkley would say, this is a "turrible" idea!! Most AD's are administrators with no understanding of football. Considering an AD has a built-in "profit motive" to have a conference affiliated school in the playoff, I cannot imagine how anyone thought this was a good idea.

But the new CFP won't be a huge windfall for the participants. The appearance bonus for any team in the CFP or Access bowls will only be about $6M. Most of the money is already guaranteed and the bonus represents less than 10% of what each P5 conference would get anyway. So it's a small motive, but not an overwhelming one.

(07-17-2013 05:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 05:07 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  This thread is hilarious. Are you people really having this big of an eye opening experience with this "revelation"?

I can understand why some fans of G5 schools would be upset but this is hardly the biggest blow. The moment it became a 4 team tournament instead of being bigger, every single one of you should have seen this coming. Crying and complaining about this happening is like bitching and moaning that the Sun came up this morning.

Been telling you folks that we will absolutely see an 8 team playoff sooner than most folks think. The power struggle we are seeing for the four slot playoff makes the 8 team tournament absolutely inevitable and the longer it is held off the more nasty the whole situation will get publicly.

Which begs the question---why didn't they just do that in the first place?

Politics. No I don't mean the farce that is our two party system, I mean the real politics that happen between all these parties involved.

No one just does what everyone knows is going to eventually happen. It is all about garnering as much power as possible before the end game is finally installed.

You know all this though and I too wish things in this world could be much more simpler but alas...then everyone would understand and how much fun would that be for those of us that do?

(07-17-2013 07:20 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Politics. No I don't mean the farce that is our two party system

Amen brother!