(08-08-2013 07:29 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Will they perform these marriage ceremonies you want? Or is it just you who never cracked a Bible?

No one cares who someone spends their life with and isn't stopping them.

No. I would never expect them to, but the local Justice of the Peace can. Marriage was largely a function of the state and the "church wedding" in the United States is a recent phenomenon.
We had 2 couples in Memphis attempt to get a license
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...er=popular

I'll bet the comments are full of conservative hatred of freedom

(08-07-2013 10:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 09:37 PM)blah Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 08:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 08:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 07:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Actually, he went to Senegal (a MUSLIM country) two months ago and condemned their anti-Gay laws right there.

Russia is very close to be worst country in the world right now for Gay persons, including the Muslim ones.

In the last week, a Gay child was brutally raped and then murdered in a filmed attack (he was killed by having an air hose stuck up his rear end and then having his intestines exploded from the inside). Although the crime was FILMED and the perpetrators are CLEARLY visible, Russia will not arrest them. A lone protester simply holding a sign opposing a Russian law was assaulted by Russian paratroopers in full view of the world's media (Again, no arrests). A libertarian woman (not Gay) was assaulted in Central Moscow last week simply for 'looking Gay'. Again no arrests. That's just this week. Who knows what new atrocities next week will bring.

Meanwhile, the Russian Orthodox Church openly advocates violence against Gay persons (not spiritual violence, but actual violence). The Russian government (with the support of some extremists from the US, such as Scott Lively) just enacted a Nuremburg Law that effectively strips Gay Russians of citizenship.

Obama's full throated condemnation of a violent, LETHAL, pogrom by Russia against its LGBT minority is one of the reasons why I'm glad I voted for him twice.

Nice try. Seven Muslim countries have the death penalty for homsexuals. Russia doesnt.

Here's a hint, Mr. Parrothead. You might want to educate yourself before you go out on a limb about Russia. Its every bit as bad as I'm representing. Probably worse.

While Saudi Arabia has the death penalty (as well as Iran and Christian Guyana), more people are getting killed for being Gay in Russia than in any of those nations.

More Gay persons have been jailed in Christian areas of NIGERIA and in Christian Camaroon than in Iran this year.

Saudi Arabia and Iran are the worst offenders to be sure. But, Russia, Camaroon, and Nigeria aren't far behind. Neither is Nigeria. Morocco and are really bad too.

But Russia is hosting the Olympics and the World Cup. If Saudi Arabia were hosting, we'd be doing the same to them. And don't worry, we'll be holding Qatar to the same standard we are holding Russia to now (We've got a special sports celebrity to lead the calls of outrage against Qatar - he's not gay, but he's also banned from Qatar). But that can wait until after we ruin Putin's Pogrom Olympics. And make no mistake, we are going to make sure that the entire games is one long, LOUD, condemnation of Putin's abuse of our community. We're just getting started.

Who's "We"? Are you in the gay police corps?

P.S. That intimidation only works in the U.S. Other countries don't give a crap about you....

Either Russia will change or they will be a cautionary tale. We can't invade, but we can make sure that their abuse is thrown in their faces at every opportunity.

We = Gay community.

Thing is, there is no gay lobby in Russia so they could care less what some Banana Boat Republic thinks. Sorry Obama you won't bully the Russians.

(08-08-2013 08:37 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(08-08-2013 07:29 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Will they perform these marriage ceremonies you want? Or is it just you who never cracked a Bible?

No one cares who someone spends their life with and isn't stopping them.

No. I would never expect them to, but the local Justice of the Peace can. Marriage was largely a function of the state and the "church wedding" in the United States is a recent phenomenon.
We had 2 couples in Memphis attempt to get a license
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...er=popular

I'll bet the comments are full of conservative hatred of freedom

And I, like most here, don't care if the state allows any two people to enter into some legal contract with each other. And once they do, I'm fine with them expanding that to any group of people.

If a man can figure out how to leave his wealth to a tree, I don't care if he does.

(08-08-2013 08:02 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I would prefer that our President focus on domestic affairs and keep his pie hole closed in reference to the affairs of other nations. This does not put a single American back to work.

Pretty much sums it up.

Though he'd also be better off not injecting himself in some localized domestic affairs, too ("The [Cambridge police] acted stupidly...", "If I had a son...").

(08-09-2013 07:17 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(08-08-2013 08:02 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I would prefer that our President focus on domestic affairs and keep his pie hole closed in reference to the affairs of other nations. This does not put a single American back to work.

Pretty much sums it up.

Though he'd also be better off not injecting himself in some localized domestic affairs, too ("The [Cambridge police] acted stupidly...", "If I had a son...").

He just wishes he could call the shots on all these "not really the Federal Governments business" things. He obviously believes he is enlightened and knows all. Trouble is - when it's time to actually lead on things of real import, he shrinks back into the background - that way, if anything goes wrong he can shirk his responsibility and blame everyone else.


He really doesn't want any decisions "sticking" to him until there is no doubt something was successful. Worst kind of leader there is..........

(08-08-2013 08:37 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(08-08-2013 07:29 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Will they perform these marriage ceremonies you want? Or is it just you who never cracked a Bible?

No one cares who someone spends their life with and isn't stopping them.

No. I would never expect them to, but the local Justice of the Peace can. Marriage was largely a function of the state and the "church wedding" in the United States is a recent phenomenon.
We had 2 couples in Memphis attempt to get a license
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/201...er=popular

I'll bet the comments are full of conservative hatred of freedom

Recent relative to what? The Church has been performing ceremonies since the time of St. Paul. Since 1208, Innocent IV included matrimony among the sacraments... and there are only 7 of them.

(08-08-2013 09:33 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-08-2013 08:42 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-08-2013 08:02 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I would prefer that our President focus on domestic affairs and keep his pie hole closed in reference to the affairs of other nations. This does not put a single American back to work.

That would require actual executive and legislative work, not just campaigning. We don't have a president capable of that.

The POTUS is our representative to the rest of the world so a strict isolationist policy isn't practical. Having said that, I'm thinking the world took our current POTUS's global apology tour more as a sign of weakness than a sign of reconciliation.

At what point did the word isolationism suddenly got conflated with minding our own business? Surely we can be diplomatic without looking like we are the worlds policeman and purveyor of all things right or wrong. If we just concentrated on solving OUR problems and making the USA the beacon of freedom it was intended?...Our example would lead the world where we would like it to go.

(08-09-2013 06:02 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 10:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 09:37 PM)blah Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 08:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-07-2013 08:04 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Nice try. Seven Muslim countries have the death penalty for homsexuals. Russia doesnt.

Here's a hint, Mr. Parrothead. You might want to educate yourself before you go out on a limb about Russia. Its every bit as bad as I'm representing. Probably worse.

While Saudi Arabia has the death penalty (as well as Iran and Christian Guyana), more people are getting killed for being Gay in Russia than in any of those nations.

More Gay persons have been jailed in Christian areas of NIGERIA and in Christian Camaroon than in Iran this year.

Saudi Arabia and Iran are the worst offenders to be sure. But, Russia, Camaroon, and Nigeria aren't far behind. Neither is Nigeria. Morocco and are really bad too.

But Russia is hosting the Olympics and the World Cup. If Saudi Arabia were hosting, we'd be doing the same to them. And don't worry, we'll be holding Qatar to the same standard we are holding Russia to now (We've got a special sports celebrity to lead the calls of outrage against Qatar - he's not gay, but he's also banned from Qatar). But that can wait until after we ruin Putin's Pogrom Olympics. And make no mistake, we are going to make sure that the entire games is one long, LOUD, condemnation of Putin's abuse of our community. We're just getting started.

Who's "We"? Are you in the gay police corps?

P.S. That intimidation only works in the U.S. Other countries don't give a crap about you....

Either Russia will change or they will be a cautionary tale. We can't invade, but we can make sure that their abuse is thrown in their faces at every opportunity.

We = Gay community.

Thing is, there is no gay lobby in Russia so they could care less what some Banana Boat Republic thinks. Sorry Obama you won't bully the Russians.

Actually there is a Gay lobby in Russia. They are frequently beaten, illegally arrested, harassed by the authorities and denied the ability to hold protests, speak in public, talk to the media, petition their government, etc.

Gays are de facto barred from running for office in Russia

The Nuremberg Act just passed by a marginally elected Russian Duma was passed without any input from the impacted minority.

Google Nikolai Alekseev if you'd like to see a real freedom fighter.