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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-16-2013 08:41 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Christians who feel Gay Marriage devalues their own marriages always make me chuckle. If the value of your marriage decreases because gays are allowed to marry those they love, then your marriage is already worthless.

I suppose if I ever heard that I might chuckle too.
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-16-2013 02:46 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 12:00 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 10:46 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
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(08-15-2013 10:17 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  The government does not agree...and they set the laws...not you, not the church.

Bingo.

Somehow this country doesn't seem to understand what religious freedom is anymore. It seems that a lot of people think you have a right to religious freedom as long as your religion is Christianity.

Whether you think it is weird, gross, right, wrong, etc. gay marriage will not have any effect on you. I truly do not get why so many people care about this subject. We have many bigger fish to fry, and if two men or two women want to get married, who the hell cares? If they are already living together and essentially acting like a married couple, how does getting married change anything?

Uh, the religious book states that no man shall ever lay with another man... You're right about civil a union not having any effect on me and had the homos and lesbos had just STFU and fought silently, then maybe those who oppose their desire to change the term of their civil union then none of this would be news. But no, they just had to be loud mouth crybabies.

Also, your "bingo" is way off. If a church doesn't want to marry a couple, they don't have to. There are lots of churches that won't even marry a couple if the female is pregnant at the time.

That's your religious book. Does everybody in this country have to follow it to a T?

And maybe this is why they want marriage:
http://civilunions.aclu-il.org/?page_id=48

By the way, those are very derogatory terms you are just throwing out there like it's nothing.

I have no problem if any church doesn't want to marry a gay couple. I never believe that should be forced on anybody any more than I believe your beliefs should be forced on people who are gay. The last time I checked, churches weren't the only place somebody could get married.

Gimme a f*ckin break dude... When did shortening a word become derogatory? Homo and lesbo is a lot "nicer" than saying fag and dike. Get off your high horse and come back down to earth.


Don't worry with this clown.

They call each other much worse. Calling someone a homo is not derogatory. Don't sweat it.
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-16-2013 07:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 07:14 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 05:09 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 10:21 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(08-15-2013 07:04 PM)john01992 Wrote:  gay rights have been an issue for me long before obama was elected

you do realize i have a family member whose openly gay right?

#prick

I have a gay uncle, who f*cking cares? Let your brother remain gay, that's his business. Let him enter into a civil union with his BF, that's his business. Let him fight for his benefits and protection. Not to go from CU's to a traditional marriage.

I've said it before, that;s the only argument. The homos want all the same benefits, but are fighting to call it marriage. That's where the line is drawn. If they wanted their extras and didn't want to be f*ck bag whiny ******* about it then they wouldn't shoot for it to be called a marriage. They would fight for the law to be changed on what the receive under a civil union. Then both sides would be happy. Truth is, they don't want opposers to be happy, they want to be heard and throw a hissy fit.

We tried separate but equal...it doesn't work...if gay couples can't get married its not equal protection under the law...that's why gay marriage is a winner in the courts.

The law is man and wife. Every male has the right to marry a female and vice versa, equal protection doesn't apply.

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What federal law says marriage is between a man and a woman?

I noticed how you slipped in the word federal in there. Prop 8 was a state law. So are all the other laws regarding marriage.
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-16-2013 09:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 07:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 07:14 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 05:09 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 10:21 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  I have a gay uncle, who f*cking cares? Let your brother remain gay, that's his business. Let him enter into a civil union with his BF, that's his business. Let him fight for his benefits and protection. Not to go from CU's to a traditional marriage.

I've said it before, that;s the only argument. The homos want all the same benefits, but are fighting to call it marriage. That's where the line is drawn. If they wanted their extras and didn't want to be f*ck bag whiny ******* about it then they wouldn't shoot for it to be called a marriage. They would fight for the law to be changed on what the receive under a civil union. Then both sides would be happy. Truth is, they don't want opposers to be happy, they want to be heard and throw a hissy fit.

We tried separate but equal...it doesn't work...if gay couples can't get married its not equal protection under the law...that's why gay marriage is a winner in the courts.

The law is man and wife. Every male has the right to marry a female and vice versa, equal protection doesn't apply.

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What federal law says marriage is between a man and a woman?

I noticed how you slipped in the word federal in there. Prop 8 was a state law. So are all the other laws regarding marriage.

So DOMA is a state law?
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-16-2013 09:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 09:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 07:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 07:14 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 05:09 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  We tried separate but equal...it doesn't work...if gay couples can't get married its not equal protection under the law...that's why gay marriage is a winner in the courts.

The law is man and wife. Every male has the right to marry a female and vice versa, equal protection doesn't apply.

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What federal law says marriage is between a man and a woman?

I noticed how you slipped in the word federal in there. Prop 8 was a state law. So are all the other laws regarding marriage.

So DOMA is a state law?

DOMA doesn't exist anymore. We are a Republic. Stop pretending we are a monarchy, Mr Statist.
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-16-2013 09:22 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 09:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 09:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 07:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 07:14 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  The law is man and wife. Every male has the right to marry a female and vice versa, equal protection doesn't apply.

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What federal law says marriage is between a man and a woman?

I noticed how you slipped in the word federal in there. Prop 8 was a state law. So are all the other laws regarding marriage.

So DOMA is a state law?

DOMA doesn't exist anymore. We are a Republic. Stop pretending we are a monarchy, Mr Statist.

Yes it does...only section 3 was ruled unconstitutional...section 2 is still in effect...it was created to pull an end run around the 'full faith and credit clause" by saying if a gay couple gets married where it's legal and move where it's not, their marriage is made invalid...the full faith and credit clause is clear...if you are married in one state, all other states must recognize it. (sec 2 will eventually end up in court)

My point is...you're wrong...there are still federal laws concerning marriage...even if you're ignorant of them or their effects on people.
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-16-2013 09:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 09:22 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 09:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 09:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(08-16-2013 07:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  What federal law says marriage is between a man and a woman?

I noticed how you slipped in the word federal in there. Prop 8 was a state law. So are all the other laws regarding marriage.

So DOMA is a state law?

DOMA doesn't exist anymore. We are a Republic. Stop pretending we are a monarchy, Mr Statist.

Yes it does...only section 3 was ruled unconstitutional...section 2 is still in effect...it was created to pull an end run around the 'full faith and credit clause" by saying if a gay couple gets married where it's legal and move where it's not, their marriage is made invalid...the full faith and credit clause is clear...if you are married in one state, all other states must recognize it. (sec 2 will eventually end up in court)

My point is...you're wrong...there are still federal laws concerning marriage...even if you're ignorant of them or their effects on people.

You are talking about monetary laws, not Constitutional laws, and the portion that restricts gay marriage is gone. Marriage it self is not a federal institution.
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RE: How do arguments still exist opposing gay marriage?
(08-16-2013 06:58 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  
(08-14-2013 02:43 PM)Smaug Wrote:  By the way, apparently if you have sex without the intent to propagate the species, you're gonna burn.
That's not even biblical. I Corinthians 7:5 instructs married couples not to deprive each other except by mutual consent. The Hebrew word for "knew" (relations in some translations) in Genesis 4:1 literally means "to know, understand, perceive, learn, and discern".

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