(09-10-2013 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 07:05 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 06:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 06:28 PM)grapes Wrote:  The AAC is highly in argument of being in the group of the P5 conferences.

The hits keep on coming...

Seriously, what are you smoking? The Big East lost AQ status when they had Boise and Louisville in the fold and the AAC is somehow "highly in argumen of being part of the P5"... only one thing high about that statement.

Nothing? its pretty simple?
We're the best thats out of the P5, period.

#1 AAC
#2 MWC


#89 everyone else.

We're very close, does that make sense to you?

I'll even concede the point that the AAC is the best of the G5(not worth arguing) but being the best G5 doesn't mean you're closer to the P5 than you are to us.

In my eyes this is the way i see it.

P5
#1 SEC
#2 B10
#3 Big 12
#4 PAC 12
#5 ACC

Top of G5
#6 AAC
#7 MWC

Bottom of G5
#8 Mid American
#9 CUSA
#10 Sun Belt

So yes, being the best "G5" does mean we are closer to being with the P5 then CUSA.

I think the AAC is closer to being a P5 than being equal with CUSA by a long shot.
And this is just regarding football..
If we were to talk about basketball the AAC is for sure in the top 5 conferences for basketball.

(09-10-2013 08:52 PM)grapes Wrote:  I think the AAC is closer to being a P5 than being equal with CUSA by a long shot.

Don't hurt yourself...

(09-10-2013 08:56 PM)MiddleTennesseeStater Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:52 PM)grapes Wrote:  I think the AAC is closer to being a P5 than being equal with CUSA by a long shot.

Don't hurt yourself...

k

(09-10-2013 06:20 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 05:55 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 05:30 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 04:39 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 03:18 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  It's clear you have no interest in having an adult conversation, the Sun Belt is not bad just because you say it is, I'm sorry to disturb your blissful ignorance, carry on.

Oh trust me, if you told someone that Memphis was joining the Pac 12 everyone would laugh and say what a joke.

Thats where you from bud. And honestly your still in it, just a revised one. Best thing that is left is ECU and they will soon join us next year.

Sorry but its not blissful ignorance, Its reality.

What the hell are you even talking about.

Look the Sun Belt has been a top ten or better RPI baseball league something like 8 of the last ten years.

Football and MBB are probably the worst two sports for the Sun Belt which is what has skewed your perspective so badly.

This all goes back to your unfounded claims of our athletic department being "nothing" compared to yours and lesser competition.

Again our athletic programs are very similar and our leagues are still much closer to one another than yours is to the "big boys".

I don't agree with this at all.

Further proving your myopia, if you believe the AAC is closer to any P5 conference than it is to CUSA, you are high off your ass.

We'll check the Sagarin ratings at the end of the year. I'm sure it will show what it always does. Well.... except we may NOT be ahead of the ACC this year, but there will be a precipitous drop in points between the top 6 conferences and CUSA and the rest.

Rooting for Memphis, but MTSU will win.

(09-10-2013 07:03 PM)TG4 Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 06:43 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 03:07 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  Wow! We are up to 15 pages already and it's only Tuesday.

it would be nice if some of it was actually about the football game that is to be played

Blue Raiders - 42
Tiggers - 3

Tigers 27
Blue Raiders 24
TG4- 1 hurt butthole
Larry Porter- 1 show cause penalty

(09-10-2013 08:52 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 07:05 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 06:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 06:28 PM)grapes Wrote:  The AAC is highly in argument of being in the group of the P5 conferences.

The hits keep on coming...

Seriously, what are you smoking? The Big East lost AQ status when they had Boise and Louisville in the fold and the AAC is somehow "highly in argumen of being part of the P5"... only one thing high about that statement.

Nothing? its pretty simple?
We're the best thats out of the P5, period.

#1 AAC
#2 MWC


#89 everyone else.

We're very close, does that make sense to you?

I'll even concede the point that the AAC is the best of the G5(not worth arguing) but being the best G5 doesn't mean you're closer to the P5 than you are to us.

In my eyes this is the way i see it.

P5
#1 SEC
#2 B10
#3 Big 12
#4 PAC 12
#5 ACC

Top of G5
#6 AAC
#7 MWC

Bottom of G5
#8 Mid American
#9 CUSA
#10 Sun Belt

So yes, being the best "G5" does mean we are closer to being with the P5 then CUSA.

I think the AAC is closer to being a P5 than being equal with CUSA by a long shot.
And this is just regarding football..
If we were to talk about basketball the AAC is for sure in the top 5 conferences for basketball.

The gap between the bottom of the P5 and the top of the G5 is greater than the gap between the top of the G5 and the bottom of the G5. I'd give you the AAC closer to the ACC than the Sun Belt but that's it.

The AAC moving forward has exactly three members who were ever AQ. You're a long way from P5...

(09-10-2013 09:39 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 06:20 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 05:55 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 05:30 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 04:39 PM)grapes Wrote:  Oh trust me, if you told someone that Memphis was joining the Pac 12 everyone would laugh and say what a joke.

Thats where you from bud. And honestly your still in it, just a revised one. Best thing that is left is ECU and they will soon join us next year.

Sorry but its not blissful ignorance, Its reality.

What the hell are you even talking about.

Look the Sun Belt has been a top ten or better RPI baseball league something like 8 of the last ten years.

Football and MBB are probably the worst two sports for the Sun Belt which is what has skewed your perspective so badly.

This all goes back to your unfounded claims of our athletic department being "nothing" compared to yours and lesser competition.

Again our athletic programs are very similar and our leagues are still much closer to one another than yours is to the "big boys".

I don't agree with this at all.

Further proving your myopia, if you believe the AAC is closer to any P5 conference than it is to CUSA, you are high off your ass.

We'll check the Sagarin ratings at the end of the year. I'm sure it will show what it always does. Well.... except we may NOT be ahead of the ACC this year, but there will be a precipitous drop in points between the top 6 conferences and CUSA and the rest.

Ah yes, Sagarin, the bastion of football knowledge that once had non-scholarship Harvard ranked 37th in the final poll...

I'll wait with baited breath.

(09-10-2013 10:43 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:52 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 07:05 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 06:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  The hits keep on coming...

Seriously, what are you smoking? The Big East lost AQ status when they had Boise and Louisville in the fold and the AAC is somehow "highly in argumen of being part of the P5"... only one thing high about that statement.

Nothing? its pretty simple?
We're the best thats out of the P5, period.

#1 AAC
#2 MWC


#89 everyone else.

We're very close, does that make sense to you?

I'll even concede the point that the AAC is the best of the G5(not worth arguing) but being the best G5 doesn't mean you're closer to the P5 than you are to us.

In my eyes this is the way i see it.

P5
#1 SEC
#2 B10
#3 Big 12
#4 PAC 12
#5 ACC

Top of G5
#6 AAC
#7 MWC

Bottom of G5
#8 Mid American
#9 CUSA
#10 Sun Belt

So yes, being the best "G5" does mean we are closer to being with the P5 then CUSA.

I think the AAC is closer to being a P5 than being equal with CUSA by a long shot.
And this is just regarding football..
If we were to talk about basketball the AAC is for sure in the top 5 conferences for basketball.

The gap between the bottom of the P5 and the top of the G5 is greater than the gap between the top of the G5 and the bottom of the G5. I'd give you the AAC closer to the ACC than the Sun Belt but that's it.

The AAC moving forward has exactly three members who were ever AQ. You're a long way from P5...

News flash, pahdna.... We are AQ right now.

(09-10-2013 10:53 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 10:43 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:52 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 07:05 PM)grapes Wrote:  Nothing? its pretty simple?
We're the best thats out of the P5, period.

#1 AAC
#2 MWC


#89 everyone else.

We're very close, does that make sense to you?

I'll even concede the point that the AAC is the best of the G5(not worth arguing) but being the best G5 doesn't mean you're closer to the P5 than you are to us.

In my eyes this is the way i see it.

P5
#1 SEC
#2 B10
#3 Big 12
#4 PAC 12
#5 ACC

Top of G5
#6 AAC
#7 MWC

Bottom of G5
#8 Mid American
#9 CUSA
#10 Sun Belt

So yes, being the best "G5" does mean we are closer to being with the P5 then CUSA.

I think the AAC is closer to being a P5 than being equal with CUSA by a long shot.
And this is just regarding football..
If we were to talk about basketball the AAC is for sure in the top 5 conferences for basketball.

The gap between the bottom of the P5 and the top of the G5 is greater than the gap between the top of the G5 and the bottom of the G5. I'd give you the AAC closer to the ACC than the Sun Belt but that's it.

The AAC moving forward has exactly three members who were ever AQ. You're a long way from P5...

News flash, pahdna.... We are AQ right now.

A technicality and you know it. If the system wasn't changing, the AAC would still find themselves on the outside looking in. The AAC is more CUSA 2.0 than it is Big East and CUSA 2.0 + UCONN, Cincy and UCF was never going to be an AQ conference.

(09-10-2013 11:08 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 10:53 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 10:43 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:52 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I'll even concede the point that the AAC is the best of the G5(not worth arguing) but being the best G5 doesn't mean you're closer to the P5 than you are to us.

In my eyes this is the way i see it.

P5
#1 SEC
#2 B10
#3 Big 12
#4 PAC 12
#5 ACC

Top of G5
#6 AAC
#7 MWC

Bottom of G5
#8 Mid American
#9 CUSA
#10 Sun Belt

So yes, being the best "G5" does mean we are closer to being with the P5 then CUSA.

I think the AAC is closer to being a P5 than being equal with CUSA by a long shot.
And this is just regarding football..
If we were to talk about basketball the AAC is for sure in the top 5 conferences for basketball.

The gap between the bottom of the P5 and the top of the G5 is greater than the gap between the top of the G5 and the bottom of the G5. I'd give you the AAC closer to the ACC than the Sun Belt but that's it.

The AAC moving forward has exactly three members who were ever AQ. You're a long way from P5...

News flash, pahdna.... We are AQ right now.

A technicality and you know it. If the system wasn't changing, the AAC would still find themselves on the outside looking in. The AAC is more CUSA 2.0 than it is Big East and CUSA 2.0 + UCONN, Cincy and UCF was never going to be an AQ conference.

So? Facts are facts. I'll admit, I'm pissed about what happened to the BigEast, but I'll take one year of AQ over no years. Every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

(09-10-2013 11:16 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 11:08 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 10:53 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 10:43 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:52 PM)grapes Wrote:  In my eyes this is the way i see it.

P5
#1 SEC
#2 B10
#3 Big 12
#4 PAC 12
#5 ACC

Top of G5
#6 AAC
#7 MWC

Bottom of G5
#8 Mid American
#9 CUSA
#10 Sun Belt

So yes, being the best "G5" does mean we are closer to being with the P5 then CUSA.

I think the AAC is closer to being a P5 than being equal with CUSA by a long shot.
And this is just regarding football..
If we were to talk about basketball the AAC is for sure in the top 5 conferences for basketball.

The gap between the bottom of the P5 and the top of the G5 is greater than the gap between the top of the G5 and the bottom of the G5. I'd give you the AAC closer to the ACC than the Sun Belt but that's it.

The AAC moving forward has exactly three members who were ever AQ. You're a long way from P5...

News flash, pahdna.... We are AQ right now.

A technicality and you know it. If the system wasn't changing, the AAC would still find themselves on the outside looking in. The AAC is more CUSA 2.0 than it is Big East and CUSA 2.0 + UCONN, Cincy and UCF was never going to be an AQ conference.

So? Facts are facts. I'll admit, I'm pissed about what happened to the BigEast, but I'll take one year of AQ over no years. Every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

We're absolutely in agreement here, I'm not deriding Memphis or the AAC, I'm just speaking in reality, the debate is not whether or not 1 year in an AQ conference is better than none. It's about grapes inability to realize you guys are closer to us than you are to them.

The AAC is closer to CUSA than you are to the ACC and the ACC, with a tip of the cap to their two big SEC victories, is dangerously close to being viewed much in the same way the Big East was.

The AAC is in good shape $$$ wise the next 5 years due to this seasons AQ bid and the 100 million dollar pot of NCAA credits and exit fees.

Cincy, UConn, and USF will make 5.9 million per year fom the TV deal + the NCAA credits/exit fees

The rest will make 2.9 million per season from the TV deal + the NCAA credits/exit fees

(09-10-2013 02:58 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 12:13 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 10:09 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Each and everyone of you on this thread are in more dire need of a blowjob than any white man in history..

If this year's game was in Memphis I'm sure the Middle fans would have no trouble getting one at all the strip clubs in the area or from the throng of prostitutes that are all over the city.
Memphis' smack is talking out of both sides of your mouth. You see claims of MT fans being butthurt, yet you mention Tennessee to a Memphis fan or the phrase that pays "Tiger ____" and you'll see a throng of short man syndrome posts that "we're just as good as Kansas!" in basketball and we're better than Tennessee even though we have half the budget and we're the fourth most popular college team in town behind Tennessee, Ole Miss and Alabama!
Get over yourselves and prepare for the beating you're about to take in Murfreesboro.

You're an idiot. Period.
Do you live under a rock?
Every city has strip clubs and prostitutes.
Wake up.

You're not a big city. You're at best a medium sized city full of corruption, crappy schools and riddled with crime. Your one pro entity, the Grizzlies have traditionally so bad that nobody goes to games, it was rumored they were leaving until the team was sold. At one time Memphis had a place called the Murder Mall due to the fact someone was either stabbed or shot there, daily.
The state of Tennessee thought so much of Memphis that when they were awarding medical schools around the state that the one in Memphis was granted as a satellite campus to the University of Tennessee.
Someone said Memphis in the long run will be better off in football than Middle? How? Where the data that shows it? It darn sure isn't wins on the field, and if you say to a recruit would you rather be 30 minutes from one of the fastest growing cities in the United States that keeps adding jobs everyday, with opportunities to intern at the two largest healthcare companies in the country, Nissan, all the different recording labels as well as various technology jobs and oh by the way the opportunity to be close to an NFL franchise or live in a place that has Fedex and Jerry Lawler, where's that player going?
Based on the on field results in recent years, they've been coming to Middle Tennessee.
It's like this, the big boys don't see a difference in the G5 conferences, in their eyes you're all the same. That's just how it is. You're recruiting against each other for the same caliber players, and even if the AAC is "better" than C-USA, in the case of MT vs. Memphis it's not. The largest undergrad enrollment in Tennessee, a campus full of new buildings and more being built, and offering more opportunity for young men to get an education and a job after football. The reality is the majority of players at this level aren't playing for an NFL contract, they're playing for an education and a sound future. It comes down to recruiting Nashville vs. Memphis, and to even people living in Memphis and the surrounding area, there's no comparison anymore.

(09-10-2013 04:19 PM)TG4 Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 04:00 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 03:56 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 03:52 PM)TG4 Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 02:17 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Is that where CLP learned it?

Why would a promising young athlete want to attend a school where its fanbase talks this way about one of their own? Maybe the White Station kid is smarter than all of us.

One of our own can't coach a lick...so he got fired.

Not to mention he also appears to be a cheater. Funny TG4 loves to rag Memphis about cheating but his boy Porter is the real cheater.

Hey, you wanna learn how to cheat? Go to the NCAA database on major infractions and filter it for the Summary Report from 1979 on Memphis State football. Life was good back then and that's just the tip of the iceberg. That was my senior year.

Were y'all the highest paid 5-6 squad in the country in 1979?

(09-10-2013 10:29 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 07:03 PM)TG4 Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 06:43 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 03:07 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  Wow! We are up to 15 pages already and it's only Tuesday.

it would be nice if some of it was actually about the football game that is to be played

Blue Raiders - 42
Tiggers - 3

Tigers 27
Blue Raiders 24
TG4- 1 hurt butthole
Larry Porter- 1 show cause penalty

Nice.

(09-10-2013 10:43 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:52 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 08:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 07:05 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 06:58 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  The hits keep on coming...

Seriously, what are you smoking? The Big East lost AQ status when they had Boise and Louisville in the fold and the AAC is somehow "highly in argumen of being part of the P5"... only one thing high about that statement.

Nothing? its pretty simple?
We're the best thats out of the P5, period.

#1 AAC
#2 MWC


#89 everyone else.

We're very close, does that make sense to you?

I'll even concede the point that the AAC is the best of the G5(not worth arguing) but being the best G5 doesn't mean you're closer to the P5 than you are to us.

In my eyes this is the way i see it.

P5
#1 SEC
#2 B10
#3 Big 12
#4 PAC 12
#5 ACC

Top of G5
#6 AAC
#7 MWC

Bottom of G5
#8 Mid American
#9 CUSA
#10 Sun Belt

So yes, being the best "G5" does mean we are closer to being with the P5 then CUSA.

I think the AAC is closer to being a P5 than being equal with CUSA by a long shot.
And this is just regarding football..
If we were to talk about basketball the AAC is for sure in the top 5 conferences for basketball.

The gap between the bottom of the P5 and the top of the G5 is greater than the gap between the top of the G5 and the bottom of the G5. I'd give you the AAC closer to the ACC than the Sun Belt but that's it.

The AAC moving forward has exactly three members who were ever AQ. You're a long way from P5...

Believe what you want too, whatever floats your boat dude.

(09-11-2013 08:49 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 02:58 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 12:13 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  

(09-10-2013 10:09 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Each and everyone of you on this thread are in more dire need of a blowjob than any white man in history..

If this year's game was in Memphis I'm sure the Middle fans would have no trouble getting one at all the strip clubs in the area or from the throng of prostitutes that are all over the city.
Memphis' smack is talking out of both sides of your mouth. You see claims of MT fans being butthurt, yet you mention Tennessee to a Memphis fan or the phrase that pays "Tiger ____" and you'll see a throng of short man syndrome posts that "we're just as good as Kansas!" in basketball and we're better than Tennessee even though we have half the budget and we're the fourth most popular college team in town behind Tennessee, Ole Miss and Alabama!
Get over yourselves and prepare for the beating you're about to take in Murfreesboro.

You're an idiot. Period.
Do you live under a rock?
Every city has strip clubs and prostitutes.
Wake up.

You're not a big city. You're at best a medium sized city full of corruption, crappy schools and riddled with crime. Your one pro entity, the Grizzlies have traditionally so bad that nobody goes to games, it was rumored they were leaving until the team was sold. At one time Memphis had a place called the Murder Mall due to the fact someone was either stabbed or shot there, daily.

It was at this point I realized you haven't a clue about Memphis.

(09-11-2013 08:49 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  Someone said Memphis in the long run will be better off in football than Middle? How? Where the data that shows it? It darn sure isn't wins on the field...

Let's just look at ONE criterion.

MTSU has exactly six (6) wins against P5 teams. Six.

We have wins against USC, Florida, Miami, Tennessee (WITH Peyton Manning), Ole Miss (WITH Eli Manning), we are 2-0 against Auburn, We beat Arkansas too many times, so they won't play us any more.

I mean, face it. We have a better history of wins than MTSU. Period. So, yes. In the long run, our program has been better. Yes, you/they have caught us in a bad period. But we will return to form soon enough.

I've got a bad feeling that MTSU is gonna whip up again.

If you lose to memphis I hereby declare you will be exiled from this conference. At least in spirit.