(12-10-2013 11:53 AM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  Since Notre Dame and Vandy dropped WF off the schedule for next year, their replacements look to be Western Carolina and Utah State. That gives us

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I would have preferred a second FCS team. We're not going to be bowl eligible looking at our roster, so I'd rather give our new coach some easy wins.

If it were me, I'd have wanted 3 away games, with the return visits in 2015. That way, year 2 features 8 home games...

Sands, from Purdue, has pretty good resume, and he was ACTING president for 9 months, and probably would have been the president if Gov Daniels didn't just bump him as president. (its amazing that Purdue just lost 2 senior leaders the propose and Chief Financial Officer) hmm..

Anyway, I'll take a big 10 leader than clemson who picked the president of West Va, guess both fighting for the low bar….

(12-10-2013 11:35 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  How come no VT fans have announce that the new VT President is another Purdue Provost? That makes two now in the ACC - at VT and NCSU.

(12-10-2013 11:53 AM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  Since Notre Dame and Vandy dropped WF off the schedule for next year, their replacements look to be Western Carolina and Utah State. That gives us

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Western Carolina

I would have preferred a second FCS team. We're not going to be bowl eligible looking at our roster, so I'd rather give our new coach some easy wins.

Just make sure you have a damn FBS QB. Look at us this year.

(12-10-2013 03:17 PM)Fburghokie Wrote:  Sands, from Purdue, has pretty good resume, and he was ACTING president for 9 months, and probably would have been the president if Gov Daniels didn't just bump him as president. (its amazing that Purdue just lost 2 senior leaders the propose and Chief Financial Officer) hmm..

Anyway, I'll take a big 10 leader than clemson who picked the president of West Va, guess both fighting for the low bar….

(12-10-2013 11:35 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  How come no VT fans have announce that the new VT President is another Purdue Provost? That makes two now in the ACC - at VT and NCSU.

Purdue is a weak link in the B10. Red-headed step child, third most popular team in their state - playing in the shadow of ND, Indiana, yet close enough to also be in MSU and NW, and Illinois shadow. A basketball school at heart.

Hmm. Better keep an eye on those crafty Catholics in South Bend I suppose.

Actually if a "tweaking" stage to conference alignment every starts it likely will be with the schools like Purdue, WF, Vandy, NW, Michigan State, NC State, VT, Mizzou - the outliers that are small and private in large size school conferences, and large State schools that are second in their state, but would be first in a different conference.

As time goes on and the revenue disparity between the Ohio State's, Alabama's and the Vandy's, NW's, Purdue, etc., continue where do you want to play - against the teams with 100K stadiums and the corresponding $40-60 million annual advantage, or do you look for a better size fit? Let's face it, you could plug Vandy, Purdue, and NW into the ACC tomorrow and not miss a beat and improve their lot on eh ball field. Their places could be taken by an Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, and they not miss a beat.

The ACC is the natural home to the smaller, elite research universities, while the B10 is the large northern graduate research machines, and the SEC the large public undergraduate machines. Three different niches. The smaller schools can compete for a couple of big games, but not keep up year end and year out.

(12-10-2013 03:58 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(12-10-2013 03:17 PM)Fburghokie Wrote:  Sands, from Purdue, has pretty good resume, and he was ACTING president for 9 months, and probably would have been the president if Gov Daniels didn't just bump him as president. (its amazing that Purdue just lost 2 senior leaders the propose and Chief Financial Officer) hmm..

Anyway, I'll take a big 10 leader than clemson who picked the president of West Va, guess both fighting for the low bar….

(12-10-2013 11:35 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  How come no VT fans have announce that the new VT President is another Purdue Provost? That makes two now in the ACC - at VT and NCSU.

Purdue is a weak link in the B10. Red-headed step child, third most popular team in their state - playing in the shadow of ND, Indiana, yet close enough to also be in MSU and NW, and Illinois shadow. A basketball school at heart.

Hmm. Better keep an eye on those crafty Catholics in South Bend I suppose.

Actually if a "tweaking" stage to conference alignment every starts it likely will be with the schools like Purdue, WF, Vandy, NW, Michigan State, NC State, VT, Mizzou - the outliers that are small and private in large size school conferences, and large State schools that are second in their state, but would be first in a different conference.

As time goes on and the revenue disparity between the Ohio State's, Alabama's and the Vandy's, NW's, Purdue, etc., continue where do you want to play - against the teams with 100K stadiums and the corresponding $40-60 million annual advantage, or do you look for a better size fit? Let's face it, you could plug Vandy, Purdue, and NW into the ACC tomorrow and not miss a beat and improve their lot on eh ball field. Their places could be taken by an Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, and they not miss a beat.

The ACC is the natural home to the smaller, elite research universities, while the B10 is the large northern graduate research machines, and the SEC the large public undergraduate machines. Three different niches. The smaller schools can compete for a couple of big games, but not keep up year end and year out.

Speaking of distrusting Catholics, I once had a talk with Mr. Gee about Vandy jumping to the ACC (back when he was president of Vanderbilt). IMHO, Vandy would be a GREAT fit in the ACC, but I think that Vandy really enjoys their niche of giving the SEC academic credibility while making bank playing Tennessee, Florida, and pals every year.

(12-10-2013 03:45 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(12-10-2013 11:53 AM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  Since Notre Dame and Vandy dropped WF off the schedule for next year, their replacements look to be Western Carolina and Utah State. That gives us

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Western Carolina

I would have preferred a second FCS team. We're not going to be bowl eligible looking at our roster, so I'd rather give our new coach some easy wins.

Just make sure you have a damn FBS QB. Look at us this year.

Quarterback is a huge question mark for our team next. It would be nice if Clawson could pull one out of his hat that can play as a true freshman because I don't have confidence in any of the returning back ups or the one currently committed QB recruit.

(12-11-2013 12:26 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-10-2013 03:58 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(12-10-2013 03:17 PM)Fburghokie Wrote:  Sands, from Purdue, has pretty good resume, and he was ACTING president for 9 months, and probably would have been the president if Gov Daniels didn't just bump him as president. (its amazing that Purdue just lost 2 senior leaders the propose and Chief Financial Officer) hmm..

Anyway, I'll take a big 10 leader than clemson who picked the president of West Va, guess both fighting for the low bar….

(12-10-2013 11:35 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  How come no VT fans have announce that the new VT President is another Purdue Provost? That makes two now in the ACC - at VT and NCSU.

Purdue is a weak link in the B10. Red-headed step child, third most popular team in their state - playing in the shadow of ND, Indiana, yet close enough to also be in MSU and NW, and Illinois shadow. A basketball school at heart.

Hmm. Better keep an eye on those crafty Catholics in South Bend I suppose.

Actually if a "tweaking" stage to conference alignment every starts it likely will be with the schools like Purdue, WF, Vandy, NW, Michigan State, NC State, VT, Mizzou - the outliers that are small and private in large size school conferences, and large State schools that are second in their state, but would be first in a different conference.

As time goes on and the revenue disparity between the Ohio State's, Alabama's and the Vandy's, NW's, Purdue, etc., continue where do you want to play - against the teams with 100K stadiums and the corresponding $40-60 million annual advantage, or do you look for a better size fit? Let's face it, you could plug Vandy, Purdue, and NW into the ACC tomorrow and not miss a beat and improve their lot on eh ball field. Their places could be taken by an Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, and they not miss a beat.

The ACC is the natural home to the smaller, elite research universities, while the B10 is the large northern graduate research machines, and the SEC the large public undergraduate machines. Three different niches. The smaller schools can compete for a couple of big games, but not keep up year end and year out.

Speaking of distrusting Catholics, I once had a talk with Mr. Gee about Vandy jumping to the ACC (back when he was president of Vanderbilt). IMHO, Vandy would be a GREAT fit in the ACC, but I think that Vandy really enjoys their niche of giving the SEC academic credibility while making bank playing Tennessee, Florida, and pals every year.

The Vandy folks I know do like their spot in the SEC, and that includes faculty. They don't have pressure to give an "A" to a stupid male jock and they are especially proud of their female athletes. .

Schools like VT and MD are following the Big 10 Model, Expect VT to be 40-50 k in 15 years;

VT does not want to be a jock school, but excellence in academics and athletics and research , this is the big 10 model….They are pursuing AAU status and almost there….. ND is a fine school with different goals than a land grant institution. We cannot be all the same and cannot promote hate if the school is different.

(12-10-2013 03:58 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(12-10-2013 03:17 PM)Fburghokie Wrote:  Sands, from Purdue, has pretty good resume, and he was ACTING president for 9 months, and probably would have been the president if Gov Daniels didn't just bump him as president. (its amazing that Purdue just lost 2 senior leaders the propose and Chief Financial Officer) hmm..

Anyway, I'll take a big 10 leader than clemson who picked the president of West Va, guess both fighting for the low bar….

(12-10-2013 11:35 AM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  How come no VT fans have announce that the new VT President is another Purdue Provost? That makes two now in the ACC - at VT and NCSU.

Purdue is a weak link in the B10. Red-headed step child, third most popular team in their state - playing in the shadow of ND, Indiana, yet close enough to also be in MSU and NW, and Illinois shadow. A basketball school at heart.

Hmm. Better keep an eye on those crafty Catholics in South Bend I suppose.

Actually if a "tweaking" stage to conference alignment every starts it likely will be with the schools like Purdue, WF, Vandy, NW, Michigan State, NC State, VT, Mizzou - the outliers that are small and private in large size school conferences, and large State schools that are second in their state, but would be first in a different conference.

As time goes on and the revenue disparity between the Ohio State's, Alabama's and the Vandy's, NW's, Purdue, etc., continue where do you want to play - against the teams with 100K stadiums and the corresponding $40-60 million annual advantage, or do you look for a better size fit? Let's face it, you could plug Vandy, Purdue, and NW into the ACC tomorrow and not miss a beat and improve their lot on eh ball field. Their places could be taken by an Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, and they not miss a beat.

The ACC is the natural home to the smaller, elite research universities, while the B10 is the large northern graduate research machines, and the SEC the large public undergraduate machines. Three different niches. The smaller schools can compete for a couple of big games, but not keep up year end and year out.