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RE: Open Thread - Week 8
Two weeks from now could be the biggest Florida State-Miami match-up in years.

#3 Clemson (Losing, 3rd)
#6 LSU (Lost)
#7 Texas A&M (Lost)
#8 Louisville (Lost)
#9 UCLA (Lost)

#5 Florida State (Winning, 3rd)
#10 Miami (Won)

Let's assume Florida State wins tonight: If the Noles and Canes take care of business against NCSU and WF respectively, then #3 Florida State vs #5 Miami in Tallahassee?
10-19-2013 09:48 PM
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The only two top 5 matchups of the season both in the ACC this year?
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RE: Open Thread - Week 8
(10-19-2013 09:53 PM)westmc9th Wrote:  The only two top 5 matchups of the season both in the ACC this year?

Let's hope so! Go ACC!
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RE: Open Thread - Week 8
Florida State should be #1. They're playing like it.
10-19-2013 10:00 PM
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(10-19-2013 10:00 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  Florida State should be #1. They're playing like it.

Problem is the current #1 and #2 are also worthy of the top spot.

#1 Alabama Crimson Tide
NU Virginia Tech W (35-10)
AT #6 Texas A&M W (49-42)
VS Colorado State W (31-6)
VS #21 Ole Miss W (25-0)
VS Georgia State W (45-3)
AT Kentucky W (48-7)
VS Arkansas W (52-0)

#2 Oregon Ducks
VS Nicholls State W (66-3)
AT Virginia W (59-10)
VS Tennessee W (59-14)
VS Cal W (55-16)
AT Colorado W (57-16)
AT #16 Washington W (45-24)
VS Washington State (Currently winning, 20-7)

#3 Florida State Seminoles
AT Pitt W (41-13)
VS Nevada W (62-7)
VS Beth-Cook W (54-6)
AT Boston College W (48-34)
VS #25 Maryland W (63-0)
AT #3 Clemson (Currently winning, 41-7)
10-19-2013 10:12 PM
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RE: Open Thread - Week 8
Top 10 will go something like:
Alabama
Oregon
FSU
Ohio State
Missouri
Baylor
Miami
Stanford
Clemson
Texas Tech or UCLA
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I think it'll look like...

#1 Alabama
#2 Oregon
#3 Florida State
#4 Ohio State
#5 Miami
#6 Baylor
#7 Missouri
#8 Stanford
#9 Clemson
#10 Texas Tech
10-19-2013 10:15 PM
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(10-19-2013 10:15 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  I think it'll look like...

#1 Alabama
#2 Oregon
#3 Florida State
#4 Ohio State
#5 Miami
#6 Baylor
#7 Missouri
#8 Stanford
#9 Clemson
#10 Texas Tech

Missouri for sure jumps Miami. There is no reason they shouldn't. I think Baylor does as well but it's more iffy.
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RE: Open Thread - Week 8
Paul Johnson said in post game they only ran about 7 plays all game.

Ouch.
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(10-19-2013 10:34 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Paul Johnson said in post game they only ran about 7 plays all game.

Ouch.

I'd fire the entire staff. There's no good reason for Syracuse getting destroyed like that. It's one of the worst losses in program history, and this Syracuse team has more talent than some of the other horrid losses.

Not only did Marrone screw us by fleeing CNY, he screwed us by fleeing after the bowl game. Steve Adazzio would be our head coach right now otherwise.
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RE: Open Thread - Week 8
Ugly 2nd half for Louisville last night. Have to regroup and win the last 5, but they'll need a lot of help to get the BCS bid now.

FSU looked national title good tonight, but they're going to need an upset to get into the top 2.
10-20-2013 01:54 AM
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(10-20-2013 01:54 AM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Ugly 2nd half for Louisville last night. Have to regroup and win the last 5, but they'll need a lot of help to get the BCS bid now.

FSU looked national title good tonight, but they're going to need an upset to get into the top 2.

Not necessarily. If Oregon struggles with a few opponents even in victory, FSU could pass them.
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I think there are three top conferences in football this year and theyre all pretty close together. The SEC ACC and PAC 12 all have great top teams but our bottom teams BC, Wake, Duke, maybe even state and Carolina are capable of beating their bottom teams of Kentcky, Mississippi State, Cal, Arizona an Utah. But the b1g and Big 12?
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(10-19-2013 10:43 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  
(10-19-2013 10:34 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Paul Johnson said in post game they only ran about 7 plays all game.

Ouch.

I'd fire the entire staff. There's no good reason for Syracuse getting destroyed like that. It's one of the worst losses in program history, and this Syracuse team has more talent than some of the other horrid losses.

Not only did Marrone screw us by fleeing CNY, he screwed us by fleeing after the bowl game. Steve Adazzio would be our head coach right now otherwise.

We cannot afford to wait and see if it works out. If we do and it turns out he is indeed not the right guy the program may never recover. The end of the Coach P and GRob era crushed this program and it's fanbase.

Other than the State game Shafer has looked lost and his coaches clueless in every other game we have played. It has been total amateur hour.

Unless he turns things around and gets us to 6 wins I believe he has to go. We are losing the small number of fans that Marrone brought back. Another swoon period and this program is done for good.

Also it is time for the university to pony up and pay for some quality coaches. This half-assing it on football salaries now that we are getting paid in the ACC needs to stop.
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RE: Open Thread - Week 8
(10-20-2013 05:47 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(10-19-2013 10:43 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  
(10-19-2013 10:34 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Paul Johnson said in post game they only ran about 7 plays all game.

Ouch.

I'd fire the entire staff. There's no good reason for Syracuse getting destroyed like that. It's one of the worst losses in program history, and this Syracuse team has more talent than some of the other horrid losses.

Not only did Marrone screw us by fleeing CNY, he screwed us by fleeing after the bowl game. Steve Adazzio would be our head coach right now otherwise.

We cannot afford to wait and see if it works out. If we do and it turns out he is indeed not the right guy the program may never recover. The end of the Coach P and GRob era crushed this program and it's fanbase.

Other than the State game Shafer has looked lost and his coaches clueless in every other game we have played. It has been total amateur hour.

Unless he turns things around and gets us to 6 wins I believe he has to go. We are losing the small number of fans that Marrone brought back. Another swoon period and this program is done for good.

Also it is time for the university to pony up and pay for some quality coaches. This half-assing it on football salaries now that we are getting paid in the ACC needs to stop.

I'm not ready to pull the trigger on HCSS yet, but the MAC-level assistant coaches need to get pink slips. We need to pony up and get top level OC's and DC's. We also need quality position coaches period
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RE: Open Thread - Week 8
(10-20-2013 05:58 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(10-20-2013 05:47 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(10-19-2013 10:43 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  
(10-19-2013 10:34 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Paul Johnson said in post game they only ran about 7 plays all game.

Ouch.

I'd fire the entire staff. There's no good reason for Syracuse getting destroyed like that. It's one of the worst losses in program history, and this Syracuse team has more talent than some of the other horrid losses.

Not only did Marrone screw us by fleeing CNY, he screwed us by fleeing after the bowl game. Steve Adazzio would be our head coach right now otherwise.

We cannot afford to wait and see if it works out. If we do and it turns out he is indeed not the right guy the program may never recover. The end of the Coach P and GRob era crushed this program and it's fanbase.

Other than the State game Shafer has looked lost and his coaches clueless in every other game we have played. It has been total amateur hour.

Unless he turns things around and gets us to 6 wins I believe he has to go. We are losing the small number of fans that Marrone brought back. Another swoon period and this program is done for good.

Also it is time for the university to pony up and pay for some quality coaches. This half-assing it on football salaries now that we are getting paid in the ACC needs to stop.

I'm not ready to pull the trigger on HCSS yet, but the MAC-level assistant coaches need to get pink slips. We need to pony up and get top level OC's and DC's. We also need quality position coaches period

I don't like his temperament. I don't see him yelling obscenities at opposing coaches (Dabo) as passion but rather as immaturity. His game management has been horrible and he has shown zero ability to adjust during the game.

Saying he is learning on the job is unfair because that implies he has learned from his mistakes. He and his coaches looked no more prepared for GT than they did week one against PSU.

The job looks well above his head.
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(10-20-2013 07:31 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(10-20-2013 05:58 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(10-20-2013 05:47 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(10-19-2013 10:43 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  
(10-19-2013 10:34 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Paul Johnson said in post game they only ran about 7 plays all game.

Ouch.

I'd fire the entire staff. There's no good reason for Syracuse getting destroyed like that. It's one of the worst losses in program history, and this Syracuse team has more talent than some of the other horrid losses.

Not only did Marrone screw us by fleeing CNY, he screwed us by fleeing after the bowl game. Steve Adazzio would be our head coach right now otherwise.

We cannot afford to wait and see if it works out. If we do and it turns out he is indeed not the right guy the program may never recover. The end of the Coach P and GRob era crushed this program and it's fanbase.

Other than the State game Shafer has looked lost and his coaches clueless in every other game we have played. It has been total amateur hour.

Unless he turns things around and gets us to 6 wins I believe he has to go. We are losing the small number of fans that Marrone brought back. Another swoon period and this program is done for good.

Also it is time for the university to pony up and pay for some quality coaches. This half-assing it on football salaries now that we are getting paid in the ACC needs to stop.

I'm not ready to pull the trigger on HCSS yet, but the MAC-level assistant coaches need to get pink slips. We need to pony up and get top level OC's and DC's. We also need quality position coaches period

I don't like his temperament. I don't see him yelling obscenities at opposing coaches (Dabo) as passion but rather as immaturity. His game management has been horrible and he has shown zero ability to adjust during the game.

Saying he is learning on the job is unfair because that implies he has learned from his mistakes. He and his coaches looked no more prepared for GT than they did week one against PSU.

The job looks well above his head.

We can argue the obscenities all day without resolve, so I won't go there other than to say that although I tend to agree with you, I can also acknowledge that there is another school of thought.

I think that his ability to adjust during the game is more complicated than you are making it sound. That was actually his strong point as DC, which means that he does know how to adjust during the game, at least defensively. The fact that our defense isn't adjusting shows that he isn't getting the support from his assistant coaches that he needs. The OC has never called plays before and our offense looks lost, and the DC got his job through nepotism. That has to end.

In my opinion, we need a guy like Atkins who was an excellent position coach and a very good recruiter (especially in Georgia), we need a guy like Mitch Browning who was a good coach and a very, very good play caller IMO, and we need HCSS to take a bigger role in the defense and we need a DC like John Anselmo was wasn't a great position coach, but was a GREAT recruiter in NY.

Combine that with a mentality that we had in the 80's when we had Nick Saban as a GA, Jim Tressel as a QB coach, and Tom Coughlin as a RB coach. We need to be a place where the best come to learn the ropes.

I think that HCSS has too much potential to throw away. He just needs the right people around him. I do agree, though, that our position is too fragile to not give him adequate support. If we care about football and are seriously committed, we will write some checks this off season.
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(10-20-2013 10:06 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(10-20-2013 07:31 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(10-20-2013 05:58 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(10-20-2013 05:47 PM)WNCOrange Wrote:  
(10-19-2013 10:43 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  I'd fire the entire staff. There's no good reason for Syracuse getting destroyed like that. It's one of the worst losses in program history, and this Syracuse team has more talent than some of the other horrid losses.

Not only did Marrone screw us by fleeing CNY, he screwed us by fleeing after the bowl game. Steve Adazzio would be our head coach right now otherwise.

We cannot afford to wait and see if it works out. If we do and it turns out he is indeed not the right guy the program may never recover. The end of the Coach P and GRob era crushed this program and it's fanbase.

Other than the State game Shafer has looked lost and his coaches clueless in every other game we have played. It has been total amateur hour.

Unless he turns things around and gets us to 6 wins I believe he has to go. We are losing the small number of fans that Marrone brought back. Another swoon period and this program is done for good.

Also it is time for the university to pony up and pay for some quality coaches. This half-assing it on football salaries now that we are getting paid in the ACC needs to stop.

I'm not ready to pull the trigger on HCSS yet, but the MAC-level assistant coaches need to get pink slips. We need to pony up and get top level OC's and DC's. We also need quality position coaches period

I don't like his temperament. I don't see him yelling obscenities at opposing coaches (Dabo) as passion but rather as immaturity. His game management has been horrible and he has shown zero ability to adjust during the game.

Saying he is learning on the job is unfair because that implies he has learned from his mistakes. He and his coaches looked no more prepared for GT than they did week one against PSU.

The job looks well above his head.

We can argue the obscenities all day without resolve, so I won't go there other than to say that although I tend to agree with you, I can also acknowledge that there is another school of thought.

I think that his ability to adjust during the game is more complicated than you are making it sound. That was actually his strong point as DC, which means that he does know how to adjust during the game, at least defensively. The fact that our defense isn't adjusting shows that he isn't getting the support from his assistant coaches that he needs. The OC has never called plays before and our offense looks lost, and the DC got his job through nepotism. That has to end.

In my opinion, we need a guy like Atkins who was an excellent position coach and a very good recruiter (especially in Georgia), we need a guy like Mitch Browning who was a good coach and a very, very good play caller IMO, and we need HCSS to take a bigger role in the defense and we need a DC like John Anselmo was wasn't a great position coach, but was a GREAT recruiter in NY.

Combine that with a mentality that we had in the 80's when we had Nick Saban as a GA, Jim Tressel as a QB coach, and Tom Coughlin as a RB coach. We need to be a place where the best come to learn the ropes.

I think that HCSS has too much potential to throw away. He just needs the right people around him. I do agree, though, that our position is too fragile to not give him adequate support. If we care about football and are seriously committed, we will write some checks this off season.

Good post.
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As you remember Marrone left the team very late in the process...Shafer had to hire buddies. SOme will work out fine, others will be proven to be in over their heads. Does Shafer have the resolve to fire a few of his buddies at the end of the season?

Cuse still has 4 winnable games out of the last 5. I somehow hope they can win 3 of them and schlep into some sh!t bowl between 6 win teams.
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Did Clemson break the noise record during the game? I don't recall it being mentioned but it's possible I missed it.
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