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(01-01-2014 10:20 AM)Monarch Maniac 10 Wrote:  A little perspective as to where this program currently resides in the Massey Ratings, which I consider to be fairly accurate:

179. Seattle
224. Wagner
226. Old Dominion
237. Wofford
285. Liberty
293. High Point
296. Mt. St. Mary's
323. Longwood

Not an easy sell right now. Come on, JJ.

This may be where this team ranks, but certainly is not where this program ranks. Try to think a little deeper.

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RE: 2014 Basketball Recruits
ODU literally is talking to 100+ recruits, until an offer is made I wouldn't get too hyped over it. ODU may also be using the coaches son and coach to influence/talk to other players on the team (Allonzo Trier is a top 35 player in next year's class and Montrose is a national powerhouse)
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(01-01-2014 12:28 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-01-2014 10:20 AM)Monarch Maniac 10 Wrote:  A little perspective as to where this program currently resides in the Massey Ratings, which I consider to be fairly accurate:

179. Seattle
224. Wagner
226. Old Dominion
237. Wofford
285. Liberty
293. High Point
296. Mt. St. Mary's
323. Longwood

Not an easy sell right now. Come on, JJ.

This may be where this team ranks, but certainly is not where this program ranks. Try to think a little deeper.

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Think deeper? I was simply offering some perspective on the state of our program. We're just not as enticing as some people think. Sure, we have better facilities and more history than those programs, but losing the way we are is definitely hurting us right now.
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Sounds like excuses to me. We are a top 100 program. Before BT destroyed it we were a top 50 program. Kids will come here when we have a staff that knows how to recruit.

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We have top 60-70 facilities in the entire country between the ted and the soon to be built practice center.


We also have one of the top 10 richest recruiting areas in the country in our own back yard. Our inability to recruit big time players boils down to two things......

1. Our fanbase's acceptance of mediocrity from our coaching staff on the recruiting front (let's face it, Blaine didn't recruit for sh.t. He got extremely lucky with two overseas recruits (lee and loughton) and two more shots in the dark on projects that became caa first teamers in baze and hassell.

He was recruiting well below a program of our stature and potential for a very long time he just got lucky with overseas and dark horse recruits. Eventually that luck ran out and now we are where we are.

2. We hired a guy who went 11-20 and might have been a year away from getting fired from American to take over the job from a drunk who was left on the job way too long and no one thinks wood deserves to lose his job over this? You wonder why we haven't landed a single recruit for next year? Because jones has zero name recognition with anyone who is under 40. He hasn't been relevant since the mid 90's......and yet we were expecting him to come in and start recruiting better than Blaine? Seriously?

We have ever bit the potential vcu does. We have a bigger fanbase, a better stadium, a better recruiting area, football, endowed scholarships etc etc etc.

What we don't have is the most important thing of all......a coach young players can relate too. We brought in another old white guy with a questionable past. Gee, I'm soooooooooooooooii shocked we haven't landed a single big recruit yet! Knock me down with a feather.

I'm so sick of the same set of fans trying to talk themselves into jones and accepting mediocrity.

Say what you will about vcu and their unkempt fans, their administration has it exactly right. They replaced capel with a young dynamic coach who brought in even better recruits. They replaced him with an even younger, more dynamic coach who is now competing with acc teams for recruits.

We decided to replace our old alky coach with an old, uninteresting coach who went 11-20 at American. How are you people not getting that we have screwed ourselves by accepting mediocrity yet again and the main person culpable for all of this is one wood selig?

He hired his UVA buddy to save some money and sunk the program for the next 5 years at least. He's not going to recapture his glory years at UVA here at odu......his ceiling is getting us back to .500 with 5 years. That's his ceiling.

We need a young, dynamic coach who can relate to the youth of today. Jones is the exact opposite of what this program needed. We needed a spark of life, a bright shinning beacon to say "come here, come to odu, we are going to do big things"... a Shaka or brad Stevens type if you will. Instead we got a guy who's been in the patriot league for a decade and couldn't get a single better job than American during that time.

I blame wood but I also blame you, the fanbase, for yet again accepting mediocrity. Hell some of you idiots were still praising Blaine and "what he did for us" even after he drug is into the toilet.

I'll simply never understand this complete lack of ambition from the same old posters.
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(01-01-2014 11:11 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Sounds like excuses to me. We are a top 100 program. Before BT destroyed it we were a top 50 program. Kids will come here when we have a staff that knows how to recruit.

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Out of curiosity what other schools were recruiting you? What other schools gave you offers? Just trying to figure out what made you choose ODU, since there was no practice facility here when you came through
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Quote:his ceiling is getting us back to .500 with 5 years. That's his ceiling.

Quote:I blame wood but I also blame you, the fanbase, for yet again accepting mediocrity.

The 2 most sobering, but truest statements I will read all day.
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(01-02-2014 12:41 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  We have top 60-70 facilities in the entire country between the ted and the soon to be built practice center.


We also have one of the top 10 richest recruiting areas in the country in our own back yard. Our inability to recruit big time players boils down to two things......

1. Our fanbase's acceptance of mediocrity from our coaching staff on the recruiting front (let's face it, Blaine didn't recruit for sh.t. He got extremely lucky with two overseas recruits (lee and loughton) and two more shots in the dark on projects that became caa first teamers in baze and hassell.

He was recruiting well below a program of our stature and potential for a very long time he just got lucky with overseas and dark horse recruits. Eventually that luck ran out and now we are where we are.

2. We hired a guy who went 11-20 and might have been a year away from getting fired from American to take over the job from a drunk who was left on the job way too long and no one thinks wood deserves to lose his job over this? You wonder why we haven't landed a single recruit for next year? Because jones has zero name recognition with anyone who is under 40. He hasn't been relevant since the mid 90's......and yet we were expecting him to come in and start recruiting better than Blaine? Seriously?

We have ever bit the potential vcu does. We have a bigger fanbase, a better stadium, a better recruiting area, football, endowed scholarships etc etc etc.

What we don't have is the most important thing of all......a coach young players can relate too. We brought in another old white guy with a questionable past. Gee, I'm soooooooooooooooii shocked we haven't landed a single big recruit yet! Knock me down with a feather.

I'm so sick of the same set of fans trying to talk themselves into jones and accepting mediocrity.

Say what you will about vcu and their unkempt fans, their administration has it exactly right. They replaced capel with a young dynamic coach who brought in even better recruits. They replaced him with an even younger, more dynamic coach who is now competing with acc teams for recruits.

We decided to replace our old alky coach with an old, uninteresting coach who went 11-20 at American. How are you people not getting that we have screwed ourselves by accepting mediocrity yet again and the main person culpable for all of this is one wood selig?

He hired his UVA buddy to save some money and sunk the program for the next 5 years at least. He's not going to recapture his glory years at UVA here at odu......his ceiling is getting us back to .500 with 5 years. That's his ceiling.

We need a young, dynamic coach who can relate to the youth of today. Jones is the exact opposite of what this program needed. We needed a spark of life, a bright shinning beacon to say "come here, come to odu, we are going to do big things"... a Shaka or brad Stevens type if you will. Instead we got a guy who's been in the patriot league for a decade and couldn't get a single better job than American during that time.

I blame wood but I also blame you, the fanbase, for yet again accepting mediocrity. Hell some of you idiots were still praising Blaine and "what he did for us" even after he drug is into the toilet.

I'll simply never understand this complete lack of ambition from the same old posters.

as far as accepting mediocrity, what do you expect? am I supposed to just follow some other team and not my alma mater, b/c the AD did something I didn't want him to? does my opinion matter to Wood, Jones or anyone who makes any decisions on campus? we have Jones for 3-5 years minimum. time to accept it and move on.
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(01-02-2014 12:41 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  We have top 60-70 facilities in the entire country between the ted and the soon to be built practice center.


We also have one of the top 10 richest recruiting areas in the country in our own back yard. Our inability to recruit big time players boils down to two things......

1. Our fanbase's acceptance of mediocrity from our coaching staff on the recruiting front (let's face it, Blaine didn't recruit for sh.t. He got extremely lucky with two overseas recruits (lee and loughton) and two more shots in the dark on projects that became caa first teamers in baze and hassell.

He was recruiting well below a program of our stature and potential for a very long time he just got lucky with overseas and dark horse recruits. Eventually that luck ran out and now we are where we are.

2. We hired a guy who went 11-20 and might have been a year away from getting fired from American to take over the job from a drunk who was left on the job way too long and no one thinks wood deserves to lose his job over this? You wonder why we haven't landed a single recruit for next year? Because jones has zero name recognition with anyone who is under 40. He hasn't been relevant since the mid 90's......and yet we were expecting him to come in and start recruiting better than Blaine? Seriously?

We have ever bit the potential vcu does. We have a bigger fanbase, a better stadium, a better recruiting area, football, endowed scholarships etc etc etc.

What we don't have is the most important thing of all......a coach young players can relate too. We brought in another old white guy with a questionable past. Gee, I'm soooooooooooooooii shocked we haven't landed a single big recruit yet! Knock me down with a feather.

I'm so sick of the same set of fans trying to talk themselves into jones and accepting mediocrity.

Say what you will about vcu and their unkempt fans, their administration has it exactly right. They replaced capel with a young dynamic coach who brought in even better recruits. They replaced him with an even younger, more dynamic coach who is now competing with acc teams for recruits.

We decided to replace our old alky coach with an old, uninteresting coach who went 11-20 at American. How are you people not getting that we have screwed ourselves by accepting mediocrity yet again and the main person culpable for all of this is one wood selig?

He hired his UVA buddy to save some money and sunk the program for the next 5 years at least. He's not going to recapture his glory years at UVA here at odu......his ceiling is getting us back to .500 with 5 years. That's his ceiling.

We need a young, dynamic coach who can relate to the youth of today. Jones is the exact opposite of what this program needed. We needed a spark of life, a bright shinning beacon to say "come here, come to odu, we are going to do big things"... a Shaka or brad Stevens type if you will. Instead we got a guy who's been in the patriot league for a decade and couldn't get a single better job than American during that time.

I blame wood but I also blame you, the fanbase, for yet again accepting mediocrity. Hell some of you idiots were still praising Blaine and "what he did for us" even after he drug is into the toilet.

I'll simply never understand this complete lack of ambition from the same old posters.

Agree with much if this.

I think what will ultimately drive real change is when the mens bball revenue tanks. Judging by the looks on the faces I see at the Ted, that day may not be far off. I don't know that the balance sheet looks like but I cant imagine the program will operate in the black this year and will most certainly bottom out next year...mo matter how cheap Jones salary might be.
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I think there is a difference between accepting mediocrity and being a fan of your team. How many people think Dan Synder has run the Skins poorly? Tons of people. Do they still go to the games and cheer? Yes. Do they ***** and moan? Some do. There are some that think the same things but don't feel it does any good to complain and moan about it. Many agree with you, some don't. But this doesn't mean they are idiots...

Happy new year!
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If you look into the stands, we aren't "accepting" anything.

Jones will have his chance to bring us back to where we need to be. He has his work cut out for him.

I will say that his lack of 2014 recruiting is a big problem so far. What will 2014-15 look like? It's looking alot like the 2013-14 team, and that ain't good.
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(01-02-2014 12:49 AM)Justanodufan Wrote:  
(01-01-2014 11:11 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Sounds like excuses to me. We are a top 100 program. Before BT destroyed it we were a top 50 program. Kids will come here when we have a staff that knows how to recruit.

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Out of curiosity what other schools were recruiting you? What other schools gave you offers? Just trying to figure out what made you choose ODU, since there was no practice facility here when you came through

Huh?

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(01-02-2014 09:41 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  If you look into the stands, we aren't "accepting" anything.

Jones will have his chance to bring us back to where we need to be. He has his work cut out for him.

I will say that his lack of 2014 recruiting is a big problem so far. What will 2014-15 look like? It's looking alot like the 2013-14 team, and that ain't good.

Problem is a ton of those empty seats are sold. People buy them for football points. Wood is laughing all the way to the bank because nobody is forcing him to deal with the basketball mediocrity.

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(01-02-2014 09:41 AM)Cr8n Wrote:  I think there is a difference between accepting mediocrity and being a fan of your team. How many people think Dan Synder has run the Skins poorly? Tons of people. Do they still go to the games and cheer? Yes. Do they ***** and moan? Some do. There are some that think the same things but don't feel it does any good to complain and moan about it. Many agree with you, some don't. But this doesn't mean they are idiots...

Happy new year!

I think Dan Synder is doing a great job!
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03-shhhh Don't let them hear you blaspheme Snyder's burgundy and gold money machine!

So yes...um...recruiting stuff. We're very busy.
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(01-02-2014 09:35 AM)Quagmire Wrote:  
(01-02-2014 12:41 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  We have top 60-70 facilities in the entire country between the ted and the soon to be built practice center.


We also have one of the top 10 richest recruiting areas in the country in our own back yard. Our inability to recruit big time players boils down to two things......

1. Our fanbase's acceptance of mediocrity from our coaching staff on the recruiting front (let's face it, Blaine didn't recruit for sh.t. He got extremely lucky with two overseas recruits (lee and loughton) and two more shots in the dark on projects that became caa first teamers in baze and hassell.

He was recruiting well below a program of our stature and potential for a very long time he just got lucky with overseas and dark horse recruits. Eventually that luck ran out and now we are where we are.

2. We hired a guy who went 11-20 and might have been a year away from getting fired from American to take over the job from a drunk who was left on the job way too long and no one thinks wood deserves to lose his job over this? You wonder why we haven't landed a single recruit for next year? Because jones has zero name recognition with anyone who is under 40. He hasn't been relevant since the mid 90's......and yet we were expecting him to come in and start recruiting better than Blaine? Seriously?

We have ever bit the potential vcu does. We have a bigger fanbase, a better stadium, a better recruiting area, football, endowed scholarships etc etc etc.

What we don't have is the most important thing of all......a coach young players can relate too. We brought in another old white guy with a questionable past. Gee, I'm soooooooooooooooii shocked we haven't landed a single big recruit yet! Knock me down with a feather.

I'm so sick of the same set of fans trying to talk themselves into jones and accepting mediocrity.

Say what you will about vcu and their unkempt fans, their administration has it exactly right. They replaced capel with a young dynamic coach who brought in even better recruits. They replaced him with an even younger, more dynamic coach who is now competing with acc teams for recruits.

We decided to replace our old alky coach with an old, uninteresting coach who went 11-20 at American. How are you people not getting that we have screwed ourselves by accepting mediocrity yet again and the main person culpable for all of this is one wood selig?

He hired his UVA buddy to save some money and sunk the program for the next 5 years at least. He's not going to recapture his glory years at UVA here at odu......his ceiling is getting us back to .500 with 5 years. That's his ceiling.

We need a young, dynamic coach who can relate to the youth of today. Jones is the exact opposite of what this program needed. We needed a spark of life, a bright shinning beacon to say "come here, come to odu, we are going to do big things"... a Shaka or brad Stevens type if you will. Instead we got a guy who's been in the patriot league for a decade and couldn't get a single better job than American during that time.

I blame wood but I also blame you, the fanbase, for yet again accepting mediocrity. Hell some of you idiots were still praising Blaine and "what he did for us" even after he drug is into the toilet.

I'll simply never understand this complete lack of ambition from the same old posters.

Agree with much if this.

I think what will ultimately drive real change is when the mens bball revenue tanks. Judging by the looks on the faces I see at the Ted, that day may not be far off. I don't know that the balance sheet looks like but I cant imagine the program will operate in the black this year and will most certainly bottom out next year...mo matter how cheap Jones salary might be.

The money isn't in a couple of thousand lost $15 tickets to the Ted. The money is in the big money donors and they have proven that they will "fall in line" and accept the huge cut in basketball so they can play cornhole in a parking lot 5 Saturdays every year. The loss of basketball ticket sales probably equates pretty nicely to the salary cut in the coaching position so in Wood's mind it is a wash as long as football tickets are still selling. Don't worry though, the chickens will eventually come home to roost, probably after Heinicke graduates and we are losing to teams like Marshall and ECU 52-3 instead of 52-38.
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(01-02-2014 09:35 AM)Quagmire Wrote:  
(01-02-2014 12:41 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  We have top 60-70 facilities in the entire country between the ted and the soon to be built practice center.


We also have one of the top 10 richest recruiting areas in the country in our own back yard. Our inability to recruit big time players boils down to two things......

1. Our fanbase's acceptance of mediocrity from our coaching staff on the recruiting front (let's face it, Blaine didn't recruit for sh.t. He got extremely lucky with two overseas recruits (lee and loughton) and two more shots in the dark on projects that became caa first teamers in baze and hassell.

He was recruiting well below a program of our stature and potential for a very long time he just got lucky with overseas and dark horse recruits. Eventually that luck ran out and now we are where we are.

2. We hired a guy who went 11-20 and might have been a year away from getting fired from American to take over the job from a drunk who was left on the job way too long and no one thinks wood deserves to lose his job over this? You wonder why we haven't landed a single recruit for next year? Because jones has zero name recognition with anyone who is under 40. He hasn't been relevant since the mid 90's......and yet we were expecting him to come in and start recruiting better than Blaine? Seriously?

We have ever bit the potential vcu does. We have a bigger fanbase, a better stadium, a better recruiting area, football, endowed scholarships etc etc etc.

What we don't have is the most important thing of all......a coach young players can relate too. We brought in another old white guy with a questionable past. Gee, I'm soooooooooooooooii shocked we haven't landed a single big recruit yet! Knock me down with a feather.

I'm so sick of the same set of fans trying to talk themselves into jones and accepting mediocrity.

Say what you will about vcu and their unkempt fans, their administration has it exactly right. They replaced capel with a young dynamic coach who brought in even better recruits. They replaced him with an even younger, more dynamic coach who is now competing with acc teams for recruits.

We decided to replace our old alky coach with an old, uninteresting coach who went 11-20 at American. How are you people not getting that we have screwed ourselves by accepting mediocrity yet again and the main person culpable for all of this is one wood selig?

He hired his UVA buddy to save some money and sunk the program for the next 5 years at least. He's not going to recapture his glory years at UVA here at odu......his ceiling is getting us back to .500 with 5 years. That's his ceiling.

We need a young, dynamic coach who can relate to the youth of today. Jones is the exact opposite of what this program needed. We needed a spark of life, a bright shinning beacon to say "come here, come to odu, we are going to do big things"... a Shaka or brad Stevens type if you will. Instead we got a guy who's been in the patriot league for a decade and couldn't get a single better job than American during that time.

I blame wood but I also blame you, the fanbase, for yet again accepting mediocrity. Hell some of you idiots were still praising Blaine and "what he did for us" even after he drug is into the toilet.

I'll simply never understand this complete lack of ambition from the same old posters.

Agree with much if this.

I think what will ultimately drive real change is when the mens bball revenue tanks. Judging by the looks on the faces I see at the Ted, that day may not be far off. I don't know that the balance sheet looks like but I cant imagine the program will operate in the black this year and will most certainly bottom out next year...mo matter how cheap Jones salary might be.

I agree with most of RR, and with Quagmire!
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(01-02-2014 10:50 AM)backrow Wrote:  
(01-02-2014 09:35 AM)Quagmire Wrote:  
(01-02-2014 12:41 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  We have top 60-70 facilities in the entire country between the ted and the soon to be built practice center.


We also have one of the top 10 richest recruiting areas in the country in our own back yard. Our inability to recruit big time players boils down to two things......

1. Our fanbase's acceptance of mediocrity from our coaching staff on the recruiting front (let's face it, Blaine didn't recruit for sh.t. He got extremely lucky with two overseas recruits (lee and loughton) and two more shots in the dark on projects that became caa first teamers in baze and hassell.

He was recruiting well below a program of our stature and potential for a very long time he just got lucky with overseas and dark horse recruits. Eventually that luck ran out and now we are where we are.

2. We hired a guy who went 11-20 and might have been a year away from getting fired from American to take over the job from a drunk who was left on the job way too long and no one thinks wood deserves to lose his job over this? You wonder why we haven't landed a single recruit for next year? Because jones has zero name recognition with anyone who is under 40. He hasn't been relevant since the mid 90's......and yet we were expecting him to come in and start recruiting better than Blaine? Seriously?

We have ever bit the potential vcu does. We have a bigger fanbase, a better stadium, a better recruiting area, football, endowed scholarships etc etc etc.

What we don't have is the most important thing of all......a coach young players can relate too. We brought in another old white guy with a questionable past. Gee, I'm soooooooooooooooii shocked we haven't landed a single big recruit yet! Knock me down with a feather.

I'm so sick of the same set of fans trying to talk themselves into jones and accepting mediocrity.

Say what you will about vcu and their unkempt fans, their administration has it exactly right. They replaced capel with a young dynamic coach who brought in even better recruits. They replaced him with an even younger, more dynamic coach who is now competing with acc teams for recruits.

We decided to replace our old alky coach with an old, uninteresting coach who went 11-20 at American. How are you people not getting that we have screwed ourselves by accepting mediocrity yet again and the main person culpable for all of this is one wood selig?

He hired his UVA buddy to save some money and sunk the program for the next 5 years at least. He's not going to recapture his glory years at UVA here at odu......his ceiling is getting us back to .500 with 5 years. That's his ceiling.

We need a young, dynamic coach who can relate to the youth of today. Jones is the exact opposite of what this program needed. We needed a spark of life, a bright shinning beacon to say "come here, come to odu, we are going to do big things"... a Shaka or brad Stevens type if you will. Instead we got a guy who's been in the patriot league for a decade and couldn't get a single better job than American during that time.

I blame wood but I also blame you, the fanbase, for yet again accepting mediocrity. Hell some of you idiots were still praising Blaine and "what he did for us" even after he drug is into the toilet.

I'll simply never understand this complete lack of ambition from the same old posters.

Agree with much if this.

I think what will ultimately drive real change is when the mens bball revenue tanks. Judging by the looks on the faces I see at the Ted, that day may not be far off. I don't know that the balance sheet looks like but I cant imagine the program will operate in the black this year and will most certainly bottom out next year...mo matter how cheap Jones salary might be.

I agree with most of RR, and with Quagmire!

So what do we do? Do we stop buying tickets and making contributions to ODAF? That certainly won't make us any better but it might at least get their attention. Or do we continue to purchase tickets and contribute? But if we do that won't the administration think that we are satisfied? I can tell you firsthand that expressing dissatisfaction verbally and in writing has absolutely no effect. We are in a real bad situation and I wish I had a clue as to the best way to get out of it.
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(01-02-2014 11:10 AM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  So what do we do? Do we stop buying tickets and making contributions to ODAF?

That has been my reaction. Of course, it is easier to do since I don't live anywhere near Norfolk anymore and can't attend games.

Last week, I got a letter in the mail asking me to begin contributing again, which I promptly ripped up and threw in the garbage.

I hated the Jones hire and the process that selected him, but I don't see any difference my complaining would make. Especially considering the AD seems uninterested in changing their "unwittingly we stroll along" attitude.

All I can do is hope it gets better. So far the signs are not encouraging.
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