I am arguing against that point, because the committee uses the RPI only as a starting point. When they make their decisions they are using a lot more subjective assessments than is used in basketball, which is really the main point I've been arguing.

Go back to last year and please justify how UC Santa Barbara gets in over Notre Dame using RPI. And then tell me if that would ever happen in basketball. The records are similar. Notre Dame has as stronger strength of schedule. Notre Dame has more top 50 wins and more top 100 wins. ND also has a winning record against the top 50/100 and UCSB has a losing record against such competition.

Notre Dame
Record: 34-24
RPI: 32
Top 50: 8-7
Top 100: 17-14
SOS: 51

UCSB
Record: 34-23
RPI: 55
Top 50: 6-8
Top 100: 14-16
SOS: 86

I will stand by and wait as you give me an explanation on how the committee used the RPI - given that it's the most weighted factor - to place UCSB in the tournament instead of Notre Dame.

(05-10-2014 09:20 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I am arguing against that point, because the committee uses the RPI only as a starting point. When they make their decisions they are using a lot more subjective assessments than is used in basketball, which is really the main point I've been arguing.

Go back to last year and please justify how UC Santa Barbara gets in over Notre Dame using RPI. And then tell me if that would ever happen in basketball. The records are similar. Notre Dame has as stronger strength of schedule. Notre Dame has more top 50 wins and more top 100 wins. ND also has a winning record against the top 50/100 and UCSB has a losing record against such competition.

Notre Dame
Record: 34-24
RPI: 32
Top 50: 8-7
Top 100: 17-14
SOS: 51

UCSB
Record: 34-23
RPI: 55
Top 50: 6-8
Top 100: 14-16
SOS: 86

I will stand by and wait as you give me an explanation on how the committee used the RPI - given that it's the most weighted factor - to place UCSB in the tournament instead of Notre Dame.

Trivial-- ND had a losing conference record (10-14), which by the rules, eliminates them from post-season consideration. UCSB had an impressive 17-10 record in the Big West, which I believe was good enough for either 2nd or 3rd place in conference.

Again, RPI is far and away the most heavily weighted factor used by the Committee; that's not to say it cannot be offset by a MAJOR negative or positive in another criteria. However, ND's losing conference record eliminate them from consideration.

Any other questions? Face reality, you are not as knowledgeable about what goes on in college baseball circles as some others of us.

(05-10-2014 11:32 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:20 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I am arguing against that point, because the committee uses the RPI only as a starting point. When they make their decisions they are using a lot more subjective assessments than is used in basketball, which is really the main point I've been arguing.

Go back to last year and please justify how UC Santa Barbara gets in over Notre Dame using RPI. And then tell me if that would ever happen in basketball. The records are similar. Notre Dame has as stronger strength of schedule. Notre Dame has more top 50 wins and more top 100 wins. ND also has a winning record against the top 50/100 and UCSB has a losing record against such competition.

Notre Dame
Record: 34-24
RPI: 32
Top 50: 8-7
Top 100: 17-14
SOS: 51

UCSB
Record: 34-23
RPI: 55
Top 50: 6-8
Top 100: 14-16
SOS: 86

I will stand by and wait as you give me an explanation on how the committee used the RPI - given that it's the most weighted factor - to place UCSB in the tournament instead of Notre Dame.

Trivial-- ND had a losing conference record (10-14), which by the rules, eliminates them from post-season consideration. UCSB had an impressive 17-10 record in the Big West, which I believe was good enough for either 2nd or 3rd place in conference.

Again, RPI is far and away the most heavily weighted factor used by the Committee; that's not to say it cannot be offset by a MAJOR negative or positive in another criteria. However, ND's losing conference record eliminate them from consideration.

Any other questions? Face reality, you are not as knowledgeable about what goes on in college baseball circles as some others of us.

Thanks for helping me complete my point. Conference records whether a losing one or good one has nothing to do with RPI.

(05-10-2014 12:38 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 11:32 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:20 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I am arguing against that point, because the committee uses the RPI only as a starting point. When they make their decisions they are using a lot more subjective assessments than is used in basketball, which is really the main point I've been arguing.

Go back to last year and please justify how UC Santa Barbara gets in over Notre Dame using RPI. And then tell me if that would ever happen in basketball. The records are similar. Notre Dame has as stronger strength of schedule. Notre Dame has more top 50 wins and more top 100 wins. ND also has a winning record against the top 50/100 and UCSB has a losing record against such competition.

Notre Dame
Record: 34-24
RPI: 32
Top 50: 8-7
Top 100: 17-14
SOS: 51

UCSB
Record: 34-23
RPI: 55
Top 50: 6-8
Top 100: 14-16
SOS: 86

I will stand by and wait as you give me an explanation on how the committee used the RPI - given that it's the most weighted factor - to place UCSB in the tournament instead of Notre Dame.

Trivial-- ND had a losing conference record (10-14), which by the rules, eliminates them from post-season consideration. UCSB had an impressive 17-10 record in the Big West, which I believe was good enough for either 2nd or 3rd place in conference.

Again, RPI is far and away the most heavily weighted factor used by the Committee; that's not to say it cannot be offset by a MAJOR negative or positive in another criteria. However, ND's losing conference record eliminate them from consideration.

Any other questions? Face reality, you are not as knowledgeable about what goes on in college baseball circles as some others of us.

Thanks for helping me complete my point. Conference records whether a losing one or good one has nothing to do with RPI.

Good grief. Your reading comprehension skills leave something to be desired. For the UMPTEENTH time-- no one has ever said RPI was the ONLY consideration. However, it is the most heavily weighted factor, and by a VERY large margin. Historically, RPI ranking rules UNLESS there is a major negative on your resume that disqualifies you, or a VERY significant positive that can offset the low RPI. Comprende?...or are you going to keep arguing in a circular fashion? The Selection Committee worships the RPI god, and will take the easy route of letting RPI dictate their decision-making unless another criteria-- whether positive or negative-- is just too significant to ignore.

(05-10-2014 02:33 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 12:38 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 11:32 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 09:20 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I am arguing against that point, because the committee uses the RPI only as a starting point. When they make their decisions they are using a lot more subjective assessments than is used in basketball, which is really the main point I've been arguing.

Go back to last year and please justify how UC Santa Barbara gets in over Notre Dame using RPI. And then tell me if that would ever happen in basketball. The records are similar. Notre Dame has as stronger strength of schedule. Notre Dame has more top 50 wins and more top 100 wins. ND also has a winning record against the top 50/100 and UCSB has a losing record against such competition.

Notre Dame
Record: 34-24
RPI: 32
Top 50: 8-7
Top 100: 17-14
SOS: 51

UCSB
Record: 34-23
RPI: 55
Top 50: 6-8
Top 100: 14-16
SOS: 86

I will stand by and wait as you give me an explanation on how the committee used the RPI - given that it's the most weighted factor - to place UCSB in the tournament instead of Notre Dame.

Trivial-- ND had a losing conference record (10-14), which by the rules, eliminates them from post-season consideration. UCSB had an impressive 17-10 record in the Big West, which I believe was good enough for either 2nd or 3rd place in conference.

Again, RPI is far and away the most heavily weighted factor used by the Committee; that's not to say it cannot be offset by a MAJOR negative or positive in another criteria. However, ND's losing conference record eliminate them from consideration.

Any other questions? Face reality, you are not as knowledgeable about what goes on in college baseball circles as some others of us.

Thanks for helping me complete my point. Conference records whether a losing one or good one has nothing to do with RPI.

Good grief. Your reading comprehension skills leave something to be desired. For the UMPTEENTH time-- no one has ever said RPI was the ONLY consideration. However, it is the most heavily weighted factor, and by a VERY large margin. Historically, RPI ranking rules UNLESS there is a major negative on your resume that disqualifies you, or a VERY significant positive that can offset the low RPI. Comprende?...or are you going to keep arguing in a circular fashion? The Selection Committee worships the RPI god, and will take the easy route of letting RPI dictate their decision-making unless another criteria-- whether positive or negative-- is just too significant to ignore.

As an ODU fan I endorse the above post.

Rather than continue arguing I would rather get back to discussing this issue more civily. I completely understand where you're coming from, but I have seen first hand how the committee completely dismisses RPI in favor of their intuition and every year there are two or three examples that continue to further impress this point to me. If you want to believe RPI is the most important factor then who am I to stop you? I simply believe there is a very big difference between RPI serving as the most utilized metric vs. how the committee weights their own collective judgments and biases often times in complete contradiction to the RPI.

The RPI gets them into the pool of teams to choose from and from there its anyone's guess what will happen, but I know for a fact they don't just go down the RPI list and pick the best ones. There's too much history and examples of that not happening and its much more than just snubs going against teams with comparable RPI's to the teams that got in. These were teams with practically no justifiable reasoning from an RPI perspective getting into the tournament over the teams with drastically better RPI profiles. So, what was the rationale? I can't answer that with certainty, but I know there is a lot more subjective decision-making in baseball than occurs with basketball again often completely ignoring what the RPI is telling them. Agree with it or don't. Doesn't really matter.

Remember this all started because someone said no one with a 40 RPI is getting in which is utterly false, which is where I stood up to say its not all about RPI. Again, my bad for trying to change minds. Believe what you want. All I know is there's something more going on that just RPI when

this team with comparable SOS and better RPI numbers across the board...

Record: 37-20
Non conf: 10-13
RPI: 51
Top 50: 1-5
T100: 14-12
SOS: 119
Conf: #17

gets in over this team...

Record: 33-17
Non conf: 21-8
RPI: 41
Top 50: 7-6
T100: 11-7
SOS: 126
Conf: #6

There were three or four such examples just last year. Same in 2012 and a couple of more in 2011. And it's been going on much longer than that. There's a lot of gut checks by the baseball selection committee. If you don't want to appreciate that ok. My bad for trying to convince you otherwise.

I know it's not popular opinion, but CUSA will only get 2 bids max, and we'll need an upset in the tournament for that.

You can say we're competitive, but we really aren't. Rice is. But overall, as a conference, we're just down. We've been a good conference in the past. The projectors aren't out to get CUSA. They really don't care about one conference over another. They see record, RPI, SOS, and Top X wins. And we don't have it. Our top teams have some bad losses that are inexcusable. Our bottom teams did well OOC, which shows how bad we really are when teams that do awful OOC can win a lot of games in conference.


Also, to the person that said USM must have talent to beat some of these teams, you're completely right. We have talent. But it hasn't translated into wins. We aren't a good team and have played at the same level all year long. We didn't get better when we started CUSA play. And we beat teams to the point that we're in 2nd. That's sad.


If Rice wins tournament, 1 bid. If someone else does, 2 bid.

I would say that's very possible.

But you have ODU sitting there in top 30. If it's all about RPI they will get in assuming they don't lose next weekend with 36 of their games played against top 100 and one of the toughest non-conference schedules in the nation.

If UAB can win three of their last four against Auburn and FAU plus a win or two in the conference tournament I'm not sure how they would be left out in that situation. They'll be the #2 team in the league and will have won 13 of of their last 14 to close the regular season in that scenario. Would also get them into the 40's.

USM probably needs to sweep next week and at least make it to the title game to have a shot. FIU killed their chances by losing the series to MT. But two looks more likely now and anywhere from one to three are definitely possible. Will depend on conference tournaments and who wins ours.

One interesting tidbit is it looks like every single C-USA tournament game is going to be against a top 100 opponent.

(05-08-2014 03:27 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 03:23 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 03:16 PM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 12:55 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Defintitley agree there on the standings. That said, if ODU wins all three on the road against a sub 200 team (though barely) their RPI will not drop. If they lose the series; however, they're done. Their games against Long Island though are all three must win games. They can't afford even one sub 200 loss here at the end of the season.

Yes their RPI will drop. You have to consider the fact that 50% of your RPI calculation is your opponent's winning percentage for each time you play them. In this case, Marshall's 39% WP will now be a part of ODU's OWP calculation of the RPI three times. Just by playing the games, ODU's RPI will drop.

Maybe not though, because they are away games. An away game win counts as 1.3 wins.

Won't offset as much as the hit to the OWP part of the RPI calculation.

Of course, this assumes that everyone else around them remains constant. Should there be some teams around them that lose games, the ranking of ODU may stay close the the same, but the actual RPI will take a hit.

With the sweep, ODU didn't move at all. Still at 28.

Actually, in WarenNolan, ODU was at 29 going into the series with Marshall and dropped to 28 after the third game.

(05-11-2014 06:45 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I would say that's very possible.

But you have ODU sitting there in top 30. If it's all about RPI they will get in assuming they don't lose next weekend with 36 of their games played against top 100 and one of the toughest non-conference schedules in the nation.

Huh??? Once again (for the reading disabled), no one ever said RPI was EVERYTHING...so PLEASE stop debating in a circular fashion. Unfortunately, ODU would still be very much on the bubble (and probably on the outside) due to it's very weak OOC schedule. (Where do you get it's one of the toughest in the nation? It's not even close to that.) ODU is just 3-6 vs. Top 50 and just 19-17 vs. Top 100. What's more, their fighting it out with FIU for 4th and 5th place in the #8th ranked conference.

Do you even bother to research before you post?

(05-11-2014 08:30 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 06:45 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I would say that's very possible.

But you have ODU sitting there in top 30. If it's all about RPI they will get in assuming they don't lose next weekend with 36 of their games played against top 100 and one of the toughest non-conference schedules in the nation.

Huh??? Once again (for the reading disabled), no one ever said RPI was EVERYTHING...so PLEASE stop debating in a circular fashion. Unfortunately, ODU would still be very much on the bubble (and probably on the outside) due to it's very weak OOC schedule. (Where do you get it's one of the toughest in the nation? It's not even close to that.) ODU is just 3-6 vs. Top 50 and just 19-17 vs. Top 100. What's more, their fighting it out with FIU for 4th and 5th place in the #8th ranked conference.

Do you even bother to research before you post?

To be fair, they do have the 14th ranked SOS according to Warren Nolan. Looking at their OOC, I don't see anything particularly objectionable.. No HBCU's...

(05-11-2014 08:40 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:30 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 06:45 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I would say that's very possible.

But you have ODU sitting there in top 30. If it's all about RPI they will get in assuming they don't lose next weekend with 36 of their games played against top 100 and one of the toughest non-conference schedules in the nation.

Huh??? Once again (for the reading disabled), no one ever said RPI was EVERYTHING...so PLEASE stop debating in a circular fashion. Unfortunately, ODU would still be very much on the bubble (and probably on the outside) due to it's very weak OOC schedule. (Where do you get it's one of the toughest in the nation? It's not even close to that.) ODU is just 3-6 vs. Top 50 and just 19-17 vs. Top 100. What's more, their fighting it out with FIU for 4th and 5th place in the #8th ranked conference.

Do you even bother to research before you post?

To be fair, they do have the 14th ranked SOS according to Warren Nolan. Looking at their OOC, I don't see anything particularly objectionable.. No HBCU's...

True, but none particularly good. Aside from Rice in conference, all their other games against Top 50 teams are mid-week....and mid-week games are not weighed the same by the Committee (or the weekly polls) as weekend games because you don't have your best pitching.

(05-11-2014 08:48 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:40 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:30 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 06:45 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I would say that's very possible.

But you have ODU sitting there in top 30. If it's all about RPI they will get in assuming they don't lose next weekend with 36 of their games played against top 100 and one of the toughest non-conference schedules in the nation.

Huh??? Once again (for the reading disabled), no one ever said RPI was EVERYTHING...so PLEASE stop debating in a circular fashion. Unfortunately, ODU would still be very much on the bubble (and probably on the outside) due to it's very weak OOC schedule. (Where do you get it's one of the toughest in the nation? It's not even close to that.) ODU is just 3-6 vs. Top 50 and just 19-17 vs. Top 100. What's more, their fighting it out with FIU for 4th and 5th place in the #8th ranked conference.

Do you even bother to research before you post?

To be fair, they do have the 14th ranked SOS according to Warren Nolan. Looking at their OOC, I don't see anything particularly objectionable.. No HBCU's...

True, but none particularly good. Aside from Rice in conference, all their other games against Top 50 teams are mid-week....and mid-week games are not weighed the same by the Committee (or the weekly polls) as weekend games because you don't have your best pitching.

So the win over #1 UVA means nothing because we played them in the middle of the week........

(05-11-2014 08:55 PM)TedHead Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:48 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:40 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:30 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 06:45 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I would say that's very possible.

But you have ODU sitting there in top 30. If it's all about RPI they will get in assuming they don't lose next weekend with 36 of their games played against top 100 and one of the toughest non-conference schedules in the nation.

Huh??? Once again (for the reading disabled), no one ever said RPI was EVERYTHING...so PLEASE stop debating in a circular fashion. Unfortunately, ODU would still be very much on the bubble (and probably on the outside) due to it's very weak OOC schedule. (Where do you get it's one of the toughest in the nation? It's not even close to that.) ODU is just 3-6 vs. Top 50 and just 19-17 vs. Top 100. What's more, their fighting it out with FIU for 4th and 5th place in the #8th ranked conference.

Do you even bother to research before you post?

To be fair, they do have the 14th ranked SOS according to Warren Nolan. Looking at their OOC, I don't see anything particularly objectionable.. No HBCU's...

True, but none particularly good. Aside from Rice in conference, all their other games against Top 50 teams are mid-week....and mid-week games are not weighed the same by the Committee (or the weekly polls) as weekend games because you don't have your best pitching.

So the win over #1 UVA means nothing because we played them in the middle of the week........

I didn't say it means nothing (once again, try some reading comprehension courses), but mid-week games are not weighed the same as weekend games, and that's a reality. Just ask Aaron Fitt, Kendall Rogers, ERic Sorenson or anyone else who truly follows the college game closely. You're dealing with teams' second tier starting pitchers.

(05-11-2014 08:59 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:55 PM)TedHead Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:48 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:40 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:30 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Huh??? Once again (for the reading disabled), no one ever said RPI was EVERYTHING...so PLEASE stop debating in a circular fashion. Unfortunately, ODU would still be very much on the bubble (and probably on the outside) due to it's very weak OOC schedule. (Where do you get it's one of the toughest in the nation? It's not even close to that.) ODU is just 3-6 vs. Top 50 and just 19-17 vs. Top 100. What's more, their fighting it out with FIU for 4th and 5th place in the #8th ranked conference.

Do you even bother to research before you post?

To be fair, they do have the 14th ranked SOS according to Warren Nolan. Looking at their OOC, I don't see anything particularly objectionable.. No HBCU's...

True, but none particularly good. Aside from Rice in conference, all their other games against Top 50 teams are mid-week....and mid-week games are not weighed the same by the Committee (or the weekly polls) as weekend games because you don't have your best pitching.

So the win over #1 UVA means nothing because we played them in the middle of the week........

I didn't say it means nothing (once again, try some reading comprehension courses), but mid-week games are not weighed the same as weekend games, and that's a reality. Just ask Aaron Fitt, Kendall Rogers, ERic Sorenson or anyone else who truly follows the college game closely. You're dealing with teams' second tier starting pitchers.

Your argument against ODU making the regional playoffs ("ODU would still be very much on the bubble (and probably on the outside)") just does not seem to hold water. The Monarchs do have the 28th ranked RPI, they do have the 14th ranked SOS, they did beat the No. 1 ranked team, and both Chasing Omaha and College Sports Madness have ODU projected as the No. 3 seed at the Charlottesville regional in their current projections.

Yeah, if they stumble badly in their last four games and in the C-USA tournament, that could change the picture prior to selection day, but that could be said for many teams. Right now, they look pretty good for the playoffs.

It's not because Walt hates ODU. Quite the contrary, i think Walt would be happy for our conference to get more than one bid. But I've talked baseball with Walt for about six years now, even if he doesn't recognize it because sometimes it has just been USM/Rice smack talk but he knows his stuff. We've been around enough to know what the selection committee looks for. USM could win out and lose in the Championship and wouldn't be on the bubble. ODU is on the bubble because of the RPI, but the bad conference record doesn't help them and will probably keep them out.


We aren't trying to hate on ODU or anyone for that matter. We're just stating how it is. You can get hopeful and such, but we've seen it time and time again. We've heard the selection committee talk about what they looked at. We've been on the inside and the outside and we know what it takes to get in and what it takes to get left out. The only team right now that will get in is Rice for sure unless someone upsets the tournament.


I hope that's not the case, but past precedent just says it is.

I did not take it as ragging on ODU. I have just been watching the discussion and trying to understand as much as possible, and having taken it all in, I have concluded that the Monarchs are in a good position to make it if they finish strong. Good RPI, good SOS, a signature win against the No. 1 team -- currently projected into the playoffs. To me this adds up to them making it if they take care of business the rest of the way. I certainly will concede to not having followed this as closely as you two, and I do have a very healthy respect for your insights. Maybe sometimes it's hard to separate fandom from objectivity. I do wish the Monarchs could have won a couple of close ones that they let get away -- in particular the one-run loss to Rice in 17 innings. That would have given ODU the series -- but I digress.

I'll add that a little more insight, and a little less arrogance, is probably a better way for one to make his point. The reading comprehension remarks were uncalled for, particularly in a thread that is simply about baseball NCAA playoffs........not like we are in th Spin Room.

(05-11-2014 09:20 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:59 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:55 PM)TedHead Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:48 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(05-11-2014 08:40 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  To be fair, they do have the 14th ranked SOS according to Warren Nolan. Looking at their OOC, I don't see anything particularly objectionable.. No HBCU's...

True, but none particularly good. Aside from Rice in conference, all their other games against Top 50 teams are mid-week....and mid-week games are not weighed the same by the Committee (or the weekly polls) as weekend games because you don't have your best pitching.

So the win over #1 UVA means nothing because we played them in the middle of the week........

I didn't say it means nothing (once again, try some reading comprehension courses), but mid-week games are not weighed the same as weekend games, and that's a reality. Just ask Aaron Fitt, Kendall Rogers, ERic Sorenson or anyone else who truly follows the college game closely. You're dealing with teams' second tier starting pitchers.

Your argument against ODU making the regional playoffs ("ODU would still be very much on the bubble (and probably on the outside)") just does not seem to hold water. The Monarchs do have the 28th ranked RPI, they do have the 14th ranked SOS, they did beat the No. 1 ranked team, and both Chasing Omaha and College Sports Madness have ODU projected as the No. 3 seed at the Charlottesville regional in their current projections.

Yeah, if they stumble badly in their last four games and in the C-USA tournament, that could change the picture prior to selection day, but that could be said for many teams. Right now, they look pretty good for the playoffs.

Doesn't hold water? Then I suggest you read either Aaron Fitt's or Kendall Roger's latest status report and regional projections. I've yet to see ODU in any of them....anywhere.

As for your deducting reputation points for my comment back to Threeifbylightning, have you bothered to read this entire thread? Ive been incredibly patient trying to debate him and give him repeated answers to his questions...and he continues to counter in a circular fashion-- totally ignoring the context and content of my explanatory posts. I simply had enough after his 4th or 5th response to me claiming I was implying that RPI was ALL the Selection Committee considered (which I never even insinuated in the slightest).