(05-14-2014 09:09 PM)Grandgreen Wrote: Lots of bull in this thread. WKU won all sports championships not only because they are good but because they had a big advantage based on sponsoring more sports. WKU had two more and MTSU 1 more than NT which in turn had more qualifying teams than others.
I think that is a fair way to do it, because the more sports offered the better; but it is a little misleading.
It also is largely dependent on the track program which accounts for 6 different teams: men and women cross country, indoor track and outdoor track. Often the formula for championships is based on a lot of foreign distance runners.
Most conferences use a weighted scale to determine the championship based on the number of teams participating. For example, if there are 14 teams; the number 1team would get 14 points, second 13 and of course schools with no team would get zero.
I thought all conferences had a similar competition. Most would trade an all sports trophy in a second for a football or basketball championship; but I do believe it is a good way to offer a little exposure for the so called non-revenue sports.
I agree. i never liked the way the SBC did their tallying, but to be honest, every other scenario has it's pro's and con's too. Although WKU sponsored Womens Swimming and Diving, I don't believe they ever received many points because there weren't many SBC schools with a team. I think there were only 3 Womens S&D teams in the SBC last year, thus the champion received 3 points but the champion of volleyball received 12 points. WKU didn't sponsor football in the SBC until just recently so they went years without gaining any points in football.
I've always felt that a better scenario was to average the place your teams finish in the league...i.e. if all your sports averaged a place of 3.3 and another averaged 3.5, then you finished higher. It nullifies those who get additional points for having additional teams. Then again, how fair is that to programs that put the resources out there and the effort to sponsor every sport?
The all sports award was a good measuring stick of how solid an overall program was but it didn't necessarily mean that the 1st place program was truly better than the 2nd place program if there were only a couple points between the two and the 2nd place program won 10 chamionships and the first place program only won 4 championships.
What the Bubas Cup Award did show without a doubt was that MT, WKU, and NT were year in and year out the top overall programs in the SBC. There was usually a significant gap between those three and the other schools. In many years it was a battle to the end between those three. USA was also in that group on occasion.
As far as CUSA goes, it doesn't bother me whether there is an all sports award or not, I'm more concerned about winning championships.
