Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
OT: June 6, 1944
Author Message
49RFootballNow Offline
He who walks without rhythm
*

Posts: 13,063
Joined: Apr 2009
Reputation: 987
I Root For: Charlotte 49ers
Location: Metrolina
Post: #1
OT: June 6, 1944
70 years ago this week the liberation of Europe began. As a proud grandson of an American Soldier who helped end the Nazi Terror I think this should be a national holiday.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/d-day-landing-s...er-1450286

[Image: American-Troops-on-Omaha-Beach-During-D-...lpaper.jpg]

[Image: normandy-cemetery.jpg]
(This post was last modified: 06-03-2014 09:41 PM by 49RFootballNow.)
06-03-2014 05:01 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


True Bearcat Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,123
Joined: Jul 2011
Reputation: 25
I Root For: Cincinnati
Location: Lebanon, OH
Post: #2
OT: June 6, 1944
It has been 70 years, but I believe it should be a World Holiday. As we celebrate the downfall of one the most awful regimes to ever grace this Earth.


Posted from my mobile device using the CSNbbs App
(This post was last modified: 06-03-2014 07:19 PM by True Bearcat.)
06-03-2014 07:18 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
RutgersMike Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 338
Joined: Sep 2011
Reputation: 26
I Root For: Rutgers
Location:
Post: #3
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
The Great Crusade.
06-03-2014 07:22 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
10thMountain Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,358
Joined: Jan 2008
Reputation: 357
I Root For: A&M, TCU
Location:
Post: #4
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
God Bless 'em!
06-03-2014 07:30 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
AntiG Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,396
Joined: Dec 2012
Reputation: 40
I Root For: Rutgers
Location: NYC
Post: #5
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
i was just watching "The World Wars" on History Channel the other day.
06-03-2014 07:43 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Pony94 Offline
Moderator
*

Posts: 25,650
Joined: Apr 2004
Reputation: 1177
I Root For: SMU
Location: Bee Cave, TX
Post: #6
OT: June 6, 1944
(06-03-2014 07:43 PM)AntiG Wrote:  i was just watching "The World Wars" on History Channel the other day.

Great series
06-03-2014 07:47 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,161
Joined: May 2010
Reputation: 449
I Root For: Common Sense
Location: Nunnayadamnbusiness
Post: #7
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
I agree, this should be a worldwide holiday. Also, I know it's not popular to say but the reality is the Soviet Union defeated the Nazis in World War II. Great Britain also had more to do with the win than the US. That is not to take anything away from the many brave American soldiers who fought so bravely in WWII. However, history is what it is and the USSR never gets the credit it deserves for its efforts in defeating Hitler.
06-03-2014 08:51 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,161
Joined: May 2010
Reputation: 449
I Root For: Common Sense
Location: Nunnayadamnbusiness
Post: #8
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
(06-03-2014 07:43 PM)AntiG Wrote:  i was just watching "The World Wars" on History Channel the other day.

Yeah, I saw that too. Very well done. I have a few quibbles with it - especially the overly kind way in which Wilson was portrayed - but I really liked it.
(This post was last modified: 06-03-2014 10:19 PM by Dr. Isaly von Yinzer.)
06-03-2014 08:52 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
RutgersMike Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 338
Joined: Sep 2011
Reputation: 26
I Root For: Rutgers
Location:
Post: #9
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
If you are into WWII history, I would recommend Liddell-Hart's "History of the Second World War". It is written from a British perspective, but it is informative.
06-03-2014 08:58 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Knightsweat Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,872
Joined: Jan 2011
Reputation: 123
I Root For: OU & UCF
Location:
Post: #10
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
(06-03-2014 08:51 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  I agree, this should be a worldwide holiday. Also, I know it's not popular to say but the reality is the Soviet Union defeated the Nazis in World War II. Great Britain also had more to do with the win than the US. That is not to take anything away from the many brave American soldiers who fought so bravely in WWII. However, history is what it is and the USSR never gets the credit it deserves for its efforts in defeating Hitler.

That probably has to do with the USSR being in bed with the Nazis until Hitler and his cronies turned on Stalin. Up to that point, the USSR stood by and even received parcels of land from the break up of Poland. They even had signed a non-agression pact with Nazi Germany, but don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

As a combat veteran myself, i'd like to echo everyone else's sentiment, mad respect for that whole generation of allied soldiers who gave their lives to save us from fascism, including those Russian soldiers that had no part in communist politics. 04-cheers
(This post was last modified: 06-03-2014 09:04 PM by Knightsweat.)
06-03-2014 09:01 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
goofus Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,285
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 148
I Root For: Iowa
Location: chicago suburbs
Post: #11
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-histo...nd-britain

Or we could wait until May 8, 2015 and celebrate the 70th anniversary of V -E day. Unless you are Russia, where they celebrate V -E day on May 9th, and they get May 9th off as a holiday. It's kinda like their memorial day.

It would be kind of like Armistice day used to be a Holiday on November 11th, celebrating the end of world war 1 on Nov 11, 1918. Then everybody from world war 1 started to die off, and they decided to rename it Veterans day. But then everybody was kinda like, isn't that what Memorial Day is for? Oh wait, that's for dead soldiers, but close enough. So now my company dropped veterans day as a company holiday and we no longer get veterans day off. Eventually everybody from WW2 will die off and the younger generation will be like, why do we have a holiday on June 6th (or May 8th), isn't that what Memorial Day is for? But hey, dead dudes, thanks for your sacrifice anyway. I am not trying to make fun of the younger generation, but the reality is they won't care.
06-03-2014 09:05 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


RutgersMike Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 338
Joined: Sep 2011
Reputation: 26
I Root For: Rutgers
Location:
Post: #12
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
I am a member of the Sons of the American Legion and the post I am belong to just lost three veterans who served during the WWII/Korea era. Most veterans do not like to talk about their war experiences, especially to non-veterans, but when they do open up, I will listen and learn.
06-03-2014 09:20 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
jml2010 Offline
Banned

Posts: 3,282
Joined: Jan 2011
I Root For: Tx Tech & UNT
Location: Oklahoma
Post: #13
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
God bless America. Truly America's greatest generation.
06-03-2014 09:44 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Captain Bearcat Offline
All-American in Everything
*

Posts: 9,478
Joined: Jun 2010
Reputation: 766
I Root For: UC
Location: IL & Cincinnati, USA
Post: #14
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
God bless the troops, all of them.

I'm not a military man myself, but I'm probably one of the few that had 3 grandparents serve in WW2. One grandpa was an ace pilot, the other grandpa in the merchant marine, and my grandma was a WAC.
06-03-2014 09:44 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BIgCatonProwl Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,171
Joined: Oct 2013
Reputation: 35
I Root For: Houston Cougars
Location:
Post: #15
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
(06-03-2014 08:51 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  I agree, this should be a worldwide holiday. Also, I know it's not popular to say but the reality is the Soviet Union defeated the Nazis in World War II. Great Britain also had more to do with the win than the US. That is not to take anything away from the many brave American soldiers who fought so bravely in WWII. However, history is what it is and the USSR never gets the credit it deserves for its efforts in defeating Hitler.

No doubt the Russians played a huge part in the defeat of Nazism along with the other allies, without American lend lease it is considered highly problematic the Soviet Union or Great Britain would have been able to sustain a war effort early in the war without American lend lease and could have been defeated. People forget America fought a two front war, Nazi Germany and Tojo's Japan at the same time. The Soviet Union was fighting on one front.
(This post was last modified: 06-03-2014 09:52 PM by BIgCatonProwl.)
06-03-2014 09:50 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,161
Joined: May 2010
Reputation: 449
I Root For: Common Sense
Location: Nunnayadamnbusiness
Post: #16
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
That's true. Also, the US ultimately came to control the Pacific, which was a major achievement given Japan's aspirations and head start (because of Wilson's blunder at the end of WWI - shunning the Japanese even though they aligned with the winning side). MacArthur was a lunatic but his efforts in the Philippines are rightly the stuff of legend.

I was just making the point that to most of the US, the war began in 1941. In much of Europe, particularly Russia/USSR, it basically began in 1914 and never really ended until the armistice was signed in 1945.

Really, WWI and WWII should be considered one war, not two. The two are directly related and the foolish way in which the Treaty of Versailles was constructed - as an over the top punishment of the Germans - essentially guaranteed that there would be a rematch of sorts.
06-03-2014 10:19 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


goofus Offline
All American
*

Posts: 4,285
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 148
I Root For: Iowa
Location: chicago suburbs
Post: #17
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
You can argue about whether the Soviet Union was a good ally, and how important they were in winning the war, but there is no arguing which country had the most war related deaths. The Soviet Union had something like 20-24 million deaths, when you count both military and civilian deaths. More than anybody including Germany and Japan. The USA had an extremely small percentage of deaths in comparison.


Attached File(s)
.png  1599px-World_War_II_Casualties.svg.png (Size: 129.98 KB / Downloads: 11)
06-04-2014 12:16 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
USAFMEDIC Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,914
Joined: Jun 2010
Reputation: 189
I Root For: MIZZOU/FSU/USM
Location: Biloxi, MS
Post: #18
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
The courage that took is beyond words. My uncle made that run onto Omaha Beach. He was shot to hell, and took the horrors of that day, without ever talking about it, to his grave.
06-04-2014 12:37 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ncbeta Offline
Suffering from trolliosis
*

Posts: 6,124
Joined: Sep 2011
Reputation: 163
I Root For: ECU
Location: Tennessee, maybe KY.
Post: #19
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
I haven't served but hope to soon. I have a lot of respect for those who made the ultimate sacrifice to provide us with what we have today.
06-04-2014 02:04 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BIgCatonProwl Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,171
Joined: Oct 2013
Reputation: 35
I Root For: Houston Cougars
Location:
Post: #20
RE: OT: June 6, 1944
(06-03-2014 10:19 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  That's true. Also, the US ultimately came to control the Pacific, which was a major achievement given Japan's aspirations and head start (because of Wilson's blunder at the end of WWI - shunning the Japanese even though they aligned with the winning side). MacArthur was a lunatic but his efforts in the Philippines are rightly the stuff of legend.

I was just making the point that to most of the US, the war began in 1941. In much of Europe, particularly Russia/USSR, it basically began in 1914 and never really ended until the armistice was signed in 1945.

Really, WWI and WWII should be considered one war, not two. The two are directly related and the foolish way in which the Treaty of Versailles was constructed - as an over the top punishment of the Germans - essentially guaranteed that there would be a rematch of sorts.
Yes it should be, after WW I, it was a utter failure to secure a true and lasting peace, the allies (except for America) wanted revenge, President Wilson advised the harsh terms dictated to Germany was guaranteeing another war. Also it was a result of the failure of Wilson's diplomacy to secure the U.S. Senate ratification of the treaty for the USA to be in the League of Nations the predecessor to the United Nations leaving it on the sidelines, the one indispensable world power out of world affairs the United States of America. As result the seeds of bitterness was sown in Germany giving rise to Hitler, who was going to right all the wrongs done to Germany
(This post was last modified: 06-04-2014 10:29 AM by BIgCatonProwl.)
06-04-2014 07:46 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.