(06-26-2014 01:05 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  None of the above.

If there were a team in the MD/DC/NJ, they would be option 1. Unless Georgetown suddenly becomes relevant in football there are no options for that area.

Army and Navy are only valid as a pair. That is a lot of baggage for a single game. A game they would not be willing to give up their rights to.

Texas would be the next market but none of the teams on that list deliver that market.

If they are only valid as a pair, why is Navy joining the AAC alone?

I voted for UConn, but the ACC isn't going to expand for a long, long time (10 yrs +) so this discussion is really moot.

I'll play

If the ACC ever wants in in Texas, UT will be their first best choice absolutely, but if UT were to refuse or deny any interest with the ACC, I think the twin towers Houston and SMU/Dallas together would be their second best choice due to market size and it's awesome recruiting grounds (Football, Basketball and Baseball), IMHO.

None of the above.

(06-26-2014 03:29 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I'll play

If the ACC ever wants in in Texas, UT will be their first best choice absolutely, but if UT were to refuse or deny any interest with the ACC, I think the twin towers Houston and SMU/Dallas together would be their second best choice due to market size and it's awesome recruiting grounds (Football, Basketball and Baseball), IMHO.

The ACC may want UT specifically (and I don't know that they do), but other than that, I doubt they want to be in Texas for the sake of being in Texas..

(06-26-2014 03:27 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  ACC isn't going to expand for a long, long time (10 yrs +) so this discussion is really moot.

100% agree... Look at this as an appetizer, though.

UCF....double down in Florida.

The could be a Texas Tech for the ACC. The were at one time Florida Tech but changed their name.

I voted for UAB. They need to put the fear into the SEC.
That would certainly work.
Wouldn't it?????

(06-26-2014 03:29 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I'll play

If the ACC ever wants in in Texas, UT will be their first best choice absolutely, but if UT were to refuse or deny any interest with the ACC, I think the twin towers Houston and SMU/Dallas together would be their second best choice due to market size and it's awesome recruiting grounds (Football, Basketball and Baseball), IMHO.

Fortunately, TV execs don't share your optimism.

Houston, Philly, San Antonio, San Diego, Dallas, San Jose etc have 1 thing in common---- cities without a P5 team.

(06-26-2014 06:50 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 03:29 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  I'll play

If the ACC ever wants in in Texas, UT will be their first best choice absolutely, but if UT were to refuse or deny any interest with the ACC, I think the twin towers Houston and SMU/Dallas together would be their second best choice due to market size and it's awesome recruiting grounds (Football, Basketball and Baseball), IMHO.

Fortunately, TV execs don't share your optimism.

Houston, Philly, San Antonio, San Diego, Dallas, San Jose etc have 1 thing in common---- cities without a P5 team.

Focus... Focus... Don't derail another thread, tiny Lubbock fan.

(06-26-2014 04:27 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  UCF....double down in Florida.

The could be a Texas Tech for the ACC. The were at one time Florida Tech but changed their name.

UCF fans aren't jackwagons like Texas Tech fans, and UCF has actually played in a BCS bowl so please don't compare the two schools.

None of the above.

(06-26-2014 02:32 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 01:33 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  UConn makes the most sense, but I think Temple would be right behind them. Not very good football, but Philadelphia market combined with good basketball they would get a pretty look.

BC, FSU, Clemson, NC State, and VT are not going to vote to add UConn, nor Temple. The schools that pay their bills with football don't want to add UConn and BC will never vote to add UConn over existential territorial issues.

Any new money, has to come from outside the current media footprint the ACC media footprint already covers over Connecticut, and DC, and parts of West Va.

Penn State, Florida, and Georgia are the only three schools in the media footprint that could add money for the existing schools. South Carolina, West Va., Kentucky, Indiana, Northwestern, or Purdue may or may not add value above and beyond for the other ACC schools.

Aren't you adorable preaching the UCONN hate!

Also, you really need to stop with the fallacy that NC State opposes UCONN's entry to the ACC.

(06-26-2014 02:53 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  If I were the ACC, I think I'd be trying to make the same deal with Texas that they've made with Notre Dame....all sports but football. Let Texas football be independent like Notre Dame

then you'd have 14 for football, and 16 for basketball. You'd also have two of the most powerful schools in the ACC's corner. Plus, Texas having bigger name football programs, ie FSU, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Miami, showing on the Longhorn network, I think that would be a plus for them (assuming a partial ACC schedule similar to ND)

If Texas is unavailable and Notre Dame absolutely refuses to join...it would be interesting to see what Houston and Tulane brought...

I really like UConn, but 1) the ACC has that region covered, 2) I'd respect BC's wishes as a conference member

BC should've been told to STFU back in 2011. Also, BC isn't even a blip on the CT sports radar. So that makes post #1 patently false.

(06-26-2014 08:45 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 02:53 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  If I were the ACC, I think I'd be trying to make the same deal with Texas that they've made with Notre Dame....all sports but football. Let Texas football be independent like Notre Dame

then you'd have 14 for football, and 16 for basketball. You'd also have two of the most powerful schools in the ACC's corner. Plus, Texas having bigger name football programs, ie FSU, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Miami, showing on the Longhorn network, I think that would be a plus for them (assuming a partial ACC schedule similar to ND)

If Texas is unavailable and Notre Dame absolutely refuses to join...it would be interesting to see what Houston and Tulane brought...

I really like UConn, but 1) the ACC has that region covered, 2) I'd respect BC's wishes as a conference member

BC should've been told to STFU back in 2011. Also, BC isn't even a blip on the CT sports radar. So that makes post #1 patently false.

UConn wouldn't have had the votes even if BC had wanted to take you.

(06-26-2014 08:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 08:45 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 02:53 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  If I were the ACC, I think I'd be trying to make the same deal with Texas that they've made with Notre Dame....all sports but football. Let Texas football be independent like Notre Dame

then you'd have 14 for football, and 16 for basketball. You'd also have two of the most powerful schools in the ACC's corner. Plus, Texas having bigger name football programs, ie FSU, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Miami, showing on the Longhorn network, I think that would be a plus for them (assuming a partial ACC schedule similar to ND)

If Texas is unavailable and Notre Dame absolutely refuses to join...it would be interesting to see what Houston and Tulane brought...

I really like UConn, but 1) the ACC has that region covered, 2) I'd respect BC's wishes as a conference member

BC should've been told to STFU back in 2011. Also, BC isn't even a blip on the CT sports radar. So that makes post #1 patently false.

UConn wouldn't have had the votes even if BC had wanted to take you.

So you say. The truth, however, will most likely never be known because no one from the ACC has commented on the initial vote breakdown of the ACC expansion committee. The only public comments came from that wrinkled up windbag DeFilippo (BC AD) and ESPiN forced him to "apologize". So, as I said, no one knows the vote breakdown and likely never will.

UCF will never be in the ACC, not as long as FSU and Miami are there. Cincy & UConn, and it's not even close.

(06-26-2014 09:04 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 08:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 08:45 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 02:53 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  If I were the ACC, I think I'd be trying to make the same deal with Texas that they've made with Notre Dame....all sports but football. Let Texas football be independent like Notre Dame

then you'd have 14 for football, and 16 for basketball. You'd also have two of the most powerful schools in the ACC's corner. Plus, Texas having bigger name football programs, ie FSU, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Miami, showing on the Longhorn network, I think that would be a plus for them (assuming a partial ACC schedule similar to ND)

If Texas is unavailable and Notre Dame absolutely refuses to join...it would be interesting to see what Houston and Tulane brought...

I really like UConn, but 1) the ACC has that region covered, 2) I'd respect BC's wishes as a conference member

BC should've been told to STFU back in 2011. Also, BC isn't even a blip on the CT sports radar. So that makes post #1 patently false.

UConn wouldn't have had the votes even if BC had wanted to take you.

So you say. The truth, however, will most likely never be known because no one from the ACC has commented on the initial vote breakdown of the ACC expansion committee. The only public comments came from that wrinkled up windbag DeFilippo (BC AD) and ESPiN forced him to "apologize". So, as I said, no one knows the vote breakdown and likely never will.

From what I have been told by someone within the Clemson AD's office it wasn't close. Even Louisville was one vote shy the first go around but because they were the only school even remotely close to having enough support they got the spot. I asked this same person if Clemson would ever support UConn and the reply was "Probably not. Clemson supports football first and foremost and UConn does absolutely nothing to advance the ACC in that sport."

Why would NC State oppose UConn? NC State is certainly not a real football school. When you're good at nothing, you're not really anything centric.

(06-26-2014 09:15 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  UCF will never be in the ACC, not as long as FSU and Miami are there. Cincy & UConn, and it's not even close.

With Miami, the ACC has only 1.5 schools in Florida. Their alumni and fans live primarily in the northeast.

I like UConn and Cincy but not as 15.