(07-17-2014 07:18 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 02:43 AM)Greenroom Wrote:  So what should the President do that he is not doing? He has deported the most illegals than any other President. You say enforce the law he is. It was President Bush that put this process in place of children that come here illegal if they are not from Mexico or Canada. Everyone claims that President Obama need to act, but what is the correct way to secure the boarder? Kill children as they cross? Put up a wall like they did in Germany. Instead of complaining how about list some solutions, since neither party is willing to do so!


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Obama has actually deported the LEAST amount of illegals.
All Obama had to do was change the way they count them, just like he has done with so many things.

Obama didn't change the rules. Bush did. Brilliant move Bush.

(07-17-2014 11:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 07:18 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 02:43 AM)Greenroom Wrote:  So what should the President do that he is not doing? He has deported the most illegals than any other President. You say enforce the law he is. It was President Bush that put this process in place of children that come here illegal if they are not from Mexico or Canada. Everyone claims that President Obama need to act, but what is the correct way to secure the boarder? Kill children as they cross? Put up a wall like they did in Germany. Instead of complaining how about list some solutions, since neither party is willing to do so!


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Obama has actually deported the LEAST amount of illegals.
All Obama had to do was change the way they count them, just like he has done with so many things.

Obama didn't change the rules. Bush did. Brilliant move Bush.

No one had any idea george bush was so formidable as to still be in charge six years after the almighty and omnipotent baroque (sic) obama, nobel peace prize winner, constitutional scholar, and orgasmic speechifier, ascended unto the heavens.

weren't we fooled. "Yes, we can" has turned into 1,000 reasons why it is someone else's fault.

(07-17-2014 10:26 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 05:59 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

Quote:So what are your suggestions? All I read is blaming the President. Actually another way to look at it is that Rep/Dems all say we are the greatest country. So if your child is in danger in Central America what would prevent you from sending your child for a better life? What about Congress and the refusal to have a "fair and balanced " conversation? You don't think that is also playing a part in this? The President can only do so much if Congress is broken. When you have a section of the Government wanting the President to fail how is that good for the country? If congress was serious about fixing immigration, then they would address the situation. But we know they are not and enjoy the benefits that illegals do for America.

I am sorry if facts are not valid for you that president Obama has deported more illegals than past Presidents. But of course you can twist numbers any way

Quote:I am sorry if facts are not valid for you that president Obama has deported more illegals than past Presidents. But of course you can twist numbers any way

So you have decided not to go look at how the numbers are arrived at. What now constitutes a "deportation" these days. Okay got it. YOU can twist the numbers if you like, and it helps that that is precisely what this Admin has done. But, you won't go look. So, oh well.

Quote:So if your child is in danger in Central America what would prevent you from sending your child for a better life?

Perhaps nothing would keep me from sending them, so what? Are we to accept all the people of Haiti and Ghana and Syria for that matter? We HAVE a process, their sending the kids and our allowing them to simply stroll on in and lawyer up are two VERY different things. We are a nation of LAWS, we have a process called LEGAL immigration, use it.

Quote:What about Congress and the refusal to have a "fair and balanced " conversation?

Sure, lets have that conversation. Where's our leader, SoSueMe? Wooop, nowhere to be found around DC or Capital Hill, but yea, New York City. OTOH if the conversation is simply "throw more money at it" for bottles and blankies and not a dime for enforcement and security what's the point? SoSueMe wants Amnesty, where has he offered to have "a conversation"?

Quote:The President can only do so much if Congress is broken.

Congress seems to be functioning just fine. Passed all kinds of jobs bills, all kinds of Budget bills, and yes, all kinds of immigration bills. Now, how many has that vicious partisan hack Harry "chasin' cowboys" Reid allowed to be brought forth? None. Start there.

Quote:When you have a section of the Government wanting the President to fail how is that good for the country?

Oh, I don't know. I don't see a "section of Government" (whatever that is) having to concern themselves with zerO's failing in the least. He has failed, spectacularly, all on his own. Might actually be the one thing he's good at.

Quote:If congress was serious about fixing immigration, then they would address the situation. But we know they are not and enjoy the benefits that illegals do for America.

Hunh. so does leadership flow from the House with 435 members or the Senate with 100 members? Both with members of opposition parties? I'd think leadership would naturally flow from the one position that is designed for it and defined by it- the EXECUTIVE branch. No? It always has previously in my lifetime. He did RUN for the job, did he not? Twice? Talk about enjoying the benefits. Hows that 12mm mansion Vaca treating you Dear Leader? Comfy?, Oh, goody.

Our Federal Governmental leadership doesn't come from the Speaker of the House or the Senate Majority leader. If it does, or has, QUICK!- Tell me who held those offices under Clinton, or even more recently under Bush? You can't without cheating, don't lie.

Additionally, who in their right mind in the Congress (or really the public in general) would believe damn near anything this guy has to say any longer? It's been one more lie, one more deceit, one more "what I meant to say, was" after another. How many Pinocchio's and 9-0 slamdunk SC decisions has this guy garnered? And you would STILL put your trust in him to do the right thing?!? Holy hell, you're as loyal as a dumb little puppy.

Smidgen.

No President in our modern history has burned more political capital and accomplished so very little. It's been quite astonishing really, how much of a complete failure he and his administration has been.



Hopey-Changey!!!

This is just an absolutely throw down, in your face, kick @ss post.

Truly good work laying out the TRUTH on Obama's pathetic tenure.

Why thank ya', thankya vury much. (best elvis impersonation)

We'll see if our friend decides to step up an offer his opinion. I'd hafta guess prolly not.

(07-17-2014 11:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 07:18 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 02:43 AM)Greenroom Wrote:  So what should the President do that he is not doing? He has deported the most illegals than any other President. You say enforce the law he is. It was President Bush that put this process in place of children that come here illegal if they are not from Mexico or Canada. Everyone claims that President Obama need to act, but what is the correct way to secure the boarder? Kill children as they cross? Put up a wall like they did in Germany. Instead of complaining how about list some solutions, since neither party is willing to do so!


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Obama has actually deported the LEAST amount of illegals.
All Obama had to do was change the way they count them, just like he has done with so many things.

Obama didn't change the rules. Bush did. Brilliant move Bush.

Then why all unaccompanied illegals now?

(07-17-2014 11:57 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 11:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 07:18 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 02:43 AM)Greenroom Wrote:  So what should the President do that he is not doing? He has deported the most illegals than any other President. You say enforce the law he is. It was President Bush that put this process in place of children that come here illegal if they are not from Mexico or Canada. Everyone claims that President Obama need to act, but what is the correct way to secure the boarder? Kill children as they cross? Put up a wall like they did in Germany. Instead of complaining how about list some solutions, since neither party is willing to do so!


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Obama has actually deported the LEAST amount of illegals.
All Obama had to do was change the way they count them, just like he has done with so many things.

Obama didn't change the rules. Bush did. Brilliant move Bush.

No one had any idea george bush was so formidable as to still be in charge six years after the almighty and omnipotent baroque (sic) obama, nobel peace prize winner, constitutional scholar, and orgasmic speechifier, ascended unto the heavens.

weren't we fooled. "Yes, we can" has turned into 1,000 reasons why it is someone else's fault.

The law was passed during the Bush administration. Obama is simply following that law.

Isn't that what you guys wanted? For Obama to follow the laws of this country?

(07-18-2014 08:15 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 11:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 07:18 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 02:43 AM)Greenroom Wrote:  So what should the President do that he is not doing? He has deported the most illegals than any other President. You say enforce the law he is. It was President Bush that put this process in place of children that come here illegal if they are not from Mexico or Canada. Everyone claims that President Obama need to act, but what is the correct way to secure the boarder? Kill children as they cross? Put up a wall like they did in Germany. Instead of complaining how about list some solutions, since neither party is willing to do so!


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Obama has actually deported the LEAST amount of illegals.
All Obama had to do was change the way they count them, just like he has done with so many things.

Obama didn't change the rules. Bush did. Brilliant move Bush.

Then why all unaccompanied illegals now?

The liberals won't answer that valid question.

The truth is they are deliberately abusing the law Bush created. The intent was to protect the random children from foreign countries other than CA or MX who actually came across the border without any parent or guardian supervision.

Bush certainly could not envision any President twisting the law by planning and executing with ICE and other federal agencies the immense FLOODING of illegal immigrant children into the USA.

Obama is simply wasting valuable resources while punishing red states like Texas and Arizona. This is payback while getting future Democratic voters in the country by underhanded means.

(07-15-2014 02:41 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-15-2014 02:39 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(07-15-2014 02:36 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-15-2014 01:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Interesting, all these threads bemoaning our immigration and border issues.

How many of you have contacted your Republican politicians? You know, the ones who are holding up immigration reform.

How many of you have contacted them to demand more money to secure the border?

What reform? You mean amnesty. There's nothing wrong with our current system except enforcement. And how would any kind of "reform" stop the flood of illegals?

the answer to dozens of unenforced immigration laws is not/NOT/NOT dozens of more immigration laws that won't be enforced.

Libs are idiots. Like the gun laws they want to pass, if they pass more immigration laws do they really expect criminals and illegals to follow them? Do they? Really? Liberals really believe that no one ever crosses a red line once it's drawn.

So, using your logic, why have any laws?

(07-19-2014 02:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 11:57 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 11:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 07:18 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 02:43 AM)Greenroom Wrote:  So what should the President do that he is not doing? He has deported the most illegals than any other President. You say enforce the law he is. It was President Bush that put this process in place of children that come here illegal if they are not from Mexico or Canada. Everyone claims that President Obama need to act, but what is the correct way to secure the boarder? Kill children as they cross? Put up a wall like they did in Germany. Instead of complaining how about list some solutions, since neither party is willing to do so!


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Obama has actually deported the LEAST amount of illegals.
All Obama had to do was change the way they count them, just like he has done with so many things.

Obama didn't change the rules. Bush did. Brilliant move Bush.

No one had any idea george bush was so formidable as to still be in charge six years after the almighty and omnipotent baroque (sic) obama, nobel peace prize winner, constitutional scholar, and orgasmic speechifier, ascended unto the heavens.

weren't we fooled. "Yes, we can" has turned into 1,000 reasons why it is someone else's fault.

The law was passed during the Bush administration. Obama is simply following that law.

Isn't that what you guys wanted? For Obama to follow the laws of this country?

Then why all the illegals now?

(07-20-2014 06:36 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(07-19-2014 02:12 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 11:57 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 11:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(07-17-2014 07:18 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Obama has actually deported the LEAST amount of illegals.
All Obama had to do was change the way they count them, just like he has done with so many things.

Obama didn't change the rules. Bush did. Brilliant move Bush.

No one had any idea george bush was so formidable as to still be in charge six years after the almighty and omnipotent baroque (sic) obama, nobel peace prize winner, constitutional scholar, and orgasmic speechifier, ascended unto the heavens.

weren't we fooled. "Yes, we can" has turned into 1,000 reasons why it is someone else's fault.

The law was passed during the Bush administration. Obama is simply following that law.

Isn't that what you guys wanted? For Obama to follow the laws of this country?

Then why all the illegals now?

Because of what is happening in their own countries.

American's are so arrogant that they think that everything that happens is because of something we did or didn't do.

These people are coming because of unrest in their own country. Not because of anything we are doing here.