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Does anyone know the order of BCS selections?
After the BCS title game is set which bowl gets the next at-large pick? And then the next and so on? I can not seem to find out this info on any website.

I believe there is a scenario where Florida/Arkansas could end up with the Orange Bowl while LSU gets the Sugar, provided that LSU beats Arkansas this weekend. If Boise State wins against Nevada this would keep the BE from getting two teams in the BCS.

You know that New Orleans would love to have LSU in the Sugar. After Katrina last year it is a natural matchup.

However, if any of the bowls get to pick before the Sugar they could head this possibility off at the pass. So to speak. If the SEC only gets one team in they have to play in the Sugar Bowl or the NC game.
11-21-2006 06:41 PM
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a Bowl that loses a team to the championship game goes first.
So
Rose Bowl has first choice
Second choice could also go to Rose Bowl IF USC is #2
Sugar goes next
Orange
Fiesta is last
11-21-2006 07:34 PM
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Cubanbull Wrote:a Bowl that loses a team to the championship game goes first.
So
Rose Bowl has first choice
Second choice could also go to Rose Bowl IF USC is #2
Sugar goes next
Orange
Fiesta is last

Thank you so much.

Go Trojans.
11-21-2006 07:52 PM
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That Is The Order
I have a feeling that Michigan will get a rematch no matter what and the Rose Bowl will be a rematch no matter what. The bowls are all about making money. Especially the Rose Bowl. Many people are not aware of this but Pittsburgh was originally supposed to go to the Rose Bowl in 2004. The BCS website listed Pittsburgh in the Rose and Texas in the Fiesta.

Something happened just before the broadcast to change the line-up. Either the Rose Bowl thought it would not sell out with Pittsburgh or the BCS was scared Texas would lose to Utah. I think we will see some combination of Ohio State, USC, Michigan, and Notre Dame in the BCS Title Game and Rose Bowl. Only a blowout in USC vs. Notre Dame can alter this.

After that the Sugar Bowl, with their SEC anchor, picks, followed by the Orange Bowl, with their ACC anchor, and the Fiesta Bowl, with their Big 12 anchor. A double cross could happen. Not wanting West Virginia or Louisville, the Sugar Bowl could cut a dirty deal with the Orange Bowl, sending the SEC champion there so that they can reach down the list for LSU.

The Tigers would then be in a home state bowl against the Big East autobid Cardinals while the SEC champs, Arkansas or Florida, would go to the Orange Bowl against the ACC team. The Mountaineers, despite likely being #5 in the final BCS rankings, would be screwed by politics. LSU, despite losing twice and not winning their division, would be sitting pretty.

For this reason, we need to root for Arkansas to beat LSU, Florida State to upset Florida, and Arkansas to win the SEC over Florida. Florida and LSU would be eliminated by 3 losses. Auburn would still be sitting there with 2 losses in this scenario, but they may not be as attractive to the Sugar Bowl as LSU would be, and Tommy Tuberville was trashing the BCS.
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I don't think Oklahoma deserve a BCS bid at all, but they are sliding closer to Top 14 each week.

It's gotten no play, but it'd be very beneficial to the Big East if Texas A&M upset the Horns on Friday. This would ensure OU was the only Big 12 team possibly in the top 14 and would mean only the Big 12 title game winner (OU v. Nebraska) got a bid. If Texas wins OU will likely end up in the top 14 despite not winning the B12 South.

Of course OSU could end the OU talk with a rivalry upset, but I wouldn't count on it.
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CollegeCard -- I think you are right. I have the feeling that a 10-2 Oklahoma might end up filling the last BCS open spot over a SEC 2 loss or a Big East 1 loss team. Especially given that their 1 early was viewed as tainted and should have been a win.

I could definately see the Rose Bowl takeing Oklahoma to battle Michigan or USC instead of taking Notre Dame (as a rematch). That would put ND in the Sugar, the Big East champ in the Orange, and Boise St in the Fiesta.

So, cheering for Texas A&M over Texas does seem like a good thought for the Big East.
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It won't be Oklahoma. Forget that idea altogether.
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actually Oklahoma should get a BCS spot. In all my life I have never seen a team take a screwing like they did in the Oregon game. they are, in reality 11-1, everyone knows that.
The Big ten will get two spots, as will the sec and notre dame will get in no matter what. the only chance for the Big east to get a second team will be for Nevada to beat Boise State. You guys all need to be Wolfpack fans this weekend. If Boise wins Rutgers goes to Houston.
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IF Texas AM knocks off Texas today it could send Oklahoma to the Big 12 championship game and eliminate Texas as an at large. Meaning no shot at Big 12 having TWO teams in BCS.
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TopCoog Wrote:actually Oklahoma should get a BCS spot. In all my life I have never seen a team take a screwing like they did in the Oregon game. they are, in reality 11-1, everyone knows that.
The Big ten will get two spots, as will the sec and notre dame will get in no matter what. the only chance for the Big east to get a second team will be for Nevada to beat Boise State. You guys all need to be Wolfpack fans this weekend. If Boise wins Rutgers goes to Houston.

If West Virginia and Louisville run the table it will be hard to justify a 12th ranked Oklahoma squad over a Top 5 WVU squad for an At Large Bid.

Plus whether they got screwed or not they still loss to Oregon.

BTW, remember when you kept saying a Non BCS team would always play the Big East school in the BCS. Well, it looks like we are looking at a Big XII Texas vs. a WAC Boise State. Another Top Coog prediction gone wrong. 05-stirthepot ;-)
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No Such Thing As Should
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TopCoog Wrote:actually Oklahoma should get a BCS spot. In all my life I have never seen a team take a screwing like they did in the Oregon game. they are, in reality 11-1, everyone knows that.
The Big ten will get two spots, as will the sec and notre dame will get in no matter what. the only chance for the Big east to get a second team will be for Nevada to beat Boise State. You guys all need to be Wolfpack fans this weekend. If Boise wins Rutgers goes to Houston.
If West Virginia and Louisville run the table it will be hard to justify a 12th ranked Oklahoma squad over a Top 5 WVU squad for an At Large Bid.

Plus whether they got screwed or not they still loss to Oregon.

BTW, remember when you kept saying a Non BCS team would always play the Big East school in the BCS. Well, it looks like we are looking at a Big XII Texas vs. a WAC Boise State. Another Top Coog prediction gone wrong. 05-stirthepot ;-)
There is no such thing as Oklahoma "should" get a BCS bid. They are not the first team in NCAA history to lose a game due to a bad call and I guarantee you they will not be the last team to do so either.

As for the bowls, they don't care about "justifying" anything, just look at the past. Nebraska and Oklahoma in the BCS Title Game after Big 12 Title Game blowout losses. It's all about the money to them.

What the Big East needs is to have every possible challenger suffer a third loss to erase all doubts. That means Texas, or Oklahoma, and LSU need to go down. Florida needs to be beaten twice in a row.
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Cubanbull Wrote:IF Texas AM knocks off Texas today it could send Oklahoma to the Big 12 championship game and eliminate Texas as an at large. Meaning no shot at Big 12 having TWO teams in BCS.

12-7 A &M over Texas. 1 BCS team for the Big 12 this year.
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CollegeCard Wrote:I don't think Oklahoma deserve a BCS bid at all, but they are sliding closer to Top 14 each week.

It's gotten no play, but it'd be very beneficial to the Big East if Texas A&M upset the Horns on Friday. This would ensure OU was the only Big 12 team possibly in the top 14 and would mean only the Big 12 title game winner (OU v. Nebraska) got a bid. If Texas wins OU will likely end up in the top 14 despite not winning the B12 South.

Of course OSU could end the OU talk with a rivalry upset, but I wouldn't count on it.

You got your wish! Texas is gone.
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TopCoog Wrote:actually Oklahoma should get a BCS spot. In all my life I have never seen a team take a screwing like they did in the Oregon game. they are, in reality 11-1, everyone knows that.
The Big ten will get two spots, as will the sec and notre dame will get in no matter what. the only chance for the Big east to get a second team will be for Nevada to beat Boise State. You guys all need to be Wolfpack fans this weekend. If Boise wins Rutgers goes to Houston.

The SEC isn't guaranteed a 2nd spot, and if Notre Dame loses to USC they could fall out of the Top 8. Oklahoma doesn't deserve anything. Plenty of teams have lost games they shouldn't have lost, so what?
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CatsClaw Wrote:The SEC isn't guaranteed a 2nd spot, and if Notre Dame loses to USC they could fall out of the Top 8. Oklahoma doesn't deserve anything. Plenty of teams have lost games they shouldn't have lost, so what?
With Arkansas currently down to LSU at home, the SEC champion may have 2 losses. Of course if Florida wins, they'll end up ranked higher than WVU or Louisville and will probably play Louisville in the Sugar Bowl. WVU will stand a good chance at getting an at-large bid.

If Arkansas loses to LSU and beats Florida in the SEC title game, then WVU will be in the driver's seat for a BCS bid if they win out.
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Arkansas Losing Was Horrible For The Big East
Arkansas losing to LSU was a horrible result for the Big East. If the Razorbacks had won, LSU would have 3 losses to knock them out of the picture, but now the Tigers are yet another at-large threat. The Big East might be screwed for a second BCS bid no matter what.

Even if Florida hands Arkansas their 3rd loss, LSU and Auburn are both sitting there with only 2 losses, and I do not trust Sugar Bowl officials one bit when they are surrounded by such temptation. The other issue is the Rose Bowl is also now allegedly interested in LSU.

Texas losing to Texas A&M was a very good thing because it eliminated them from the Big 12 title picture and also from the BCS at-large picture. Oklahoma, if they win today, will back into the Big 12 title game. The Big 12 threat is gone but the SEC gained another option.

So the big question is will the Rose Bowl, because they pick first, think a 10-2 LSU (or for that matter a 10-2 Auburn or 10-2 Florida if they beat FSU but lose the SEC title game) is more attractive than an 11-1, probably #4 ranked, West Virginia. They don't care about fair.

Many posters here must remember 2000. Virginia Tech had 1 loss, to Miami, and they had Michael Vick. The Fiesta Bowl had a chance to match M.V. against Joey Harrington in the BCS. What did they do? Reached all the way down for #12 Notre Dame. You know the rest.
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It really doesnt matter EVEN if Arkansas had beaten LSU. Auburn at 10-2 is an attractive pick up for any Bowl. The SEC will have TWO BCS teams. The winner of Florida-Arkansas and probably LSU. Before this game it could have been the winner of SEC championship and the loser or Auburn
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I agree with Krocker and Bull, people better cheer for Nevada today.
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