BE could add St. Louis for basketball only and Memphis(all sports).

Football gets you the Liberty Bowl and another cupcake for UL and WV to waltz over for their yearly national title showdown.

Basketball would be at 18 with two divisions
east-
UConn
Syracuse
Providence
Seton Hall
Rutgers
Villanova
Georgetown
South Florida
St John's

mid west-
Pitt
WV
UL
UC
Memphis
Notre Dame
Depaul
Marquette
St Louis

For football only, Temple is it. They are in the A-10 all ready. MAC would be happy to let Temple go back to BE. BE could always add Temple hoops if split occurs.

Forget about it. 18 teams is too many.

Maize Wrote:In a couple of years add East Carolina as a Football Only member with assurances that if they do certain things to upgrade their Basketball/Olympic facilities they would become full members at a later date.

What's wrong with our basketball arena?? It was renovated not to long ago before CUSA and the largest crowd was 8,082 so I guess thats about capacity a 8,100.



It's not like we can rent the Fed ex forum or need to, but there are plenty of successful schools with comparable facilities.....

Duke 9,300
Boston College 8,600
Georgia Tech 9,100
Virginia 8,400 (just moved out)
Miami 7,000
Stanford 7,600
Villinova 6,500 (on campus)
St Johns 6,000
Rutgers 8,000
Oregon 9,000
Ol' Miss 8,700
Northwestern 8,100
Charlotte 9,100
G. Washington 5,000
St. Joe's 3,200
Gonzaga 6,000

We do a decent job filling it up with 5,200 last year for an 8 win team with out a great home schedule. We are pretty much in line with plenty of "power conference" teams with faclities and support already. It's a great atmosphere by all accounts, and is expandable if needed. I'm not sure what the problem is with our other facilities either.

Bearcats#1 Wrote:

tigersharktwo Wrote:

Bearcats#1 Wrote:If Nova could do what UCONN did...they'd be an awesome fit....

otherwise, ECU is our best choice

It will never will happen.

who are you? Nostradomus?

Not Nostradomus but Nostradumbass

lmfao lmfao lmfao

Yes another jerk who wants to destroy the BE and turn it into cusa remake.By the way the BE thinks your split ideas are pure crap.If there is another football member it will not be from cusa.

templefootballfan Wrote:Any Conf that takes Mempis,EC,UCF for BB only is going to want concessions from the BE. Is the BE willing to go play at Sothern, Atlantic Sun or Horizn schools.

PRIOR STATEMENT BY HUMMELL

^ Scratch that...I just realized what you were saying after re-reading. The CONFERENCE that accepts all other sports will want consessions. That I agree with. My apologies.

panite Wrote:If its for football only then ECU is the candidate. UCF and Memphis both want all sports. Memphis flat out rejected FB only the last time around and UCF flinched so USF was added. ECU will put its other sports in the A-10 or CAA for continued NE exposure. Word has it they have explored those opportunities. Trained Goose wants UCF though as he has stated in the past for the Florida markets. UCF is building the facilities for a BE move but ECU has the RABID fan base that FB needs for packed stadiums and fans that travel to bowls.

First FB only ECU.

Future FB 10 if Train Goose is pulling the strings:

Current 8- ECU and UCF. At this time I don't think Memphis is going to make it if the TRAINED GOOSE is involved. He is too set on building the conference in Florida. Memphis would definitely benefit L'Ville and Cinn travel wise though and I think they would pull for them over UCF to re-establish ties again.

Ecu may very well be the only one that would go fb only at this time.. as for UCF flinching.. that did not happen.. UCF held out till the end hoping for a BE fb only invite..before bc left and USF was brought in ... rumor had it that the BE was going to go to 9 for football.. after the switch out... they decided to stay at 8.

A good AD can find an extra game per year.The value of bringing a 9th member for football only needs to exceed its cost.No cusa leftover satisfies that logical criterion.

Buying games for BE is 4 to 6 million dollars a week. Sch TV games could cost bowl bids, maybe BCS bowl. 9th team helps with TV market, soliditfy bowl oppertunits. BE pays thier non-bowl teams 2 million, with conf fee to join. That would be a steal to add 9th school.

The wrong teams from cusa or temple just cost and do not add valu to the BE.Bad markets or poor teams are costly.temple was tossed from the BE for a lot of good reasons.The likes of memphis,ecu or cfla were never added to the BE for a lot of good reasons.By the way a good AD can schedule well with just 8 teams for football.The wvu hc does not set up the BE league structure,that is done by the majority of the BE presidents .

You are fooling yourself if you think its easy to schedule good out of conference games. There is a reason Florida and others are scheduling 1AA at home and thats because those teams want EASY wins and even the Sun Belt teams are BOOKED. If you think many quality teams are eager to schedule WV, UL on a 1-1 basis then you are dreaming they wont make those deals and get beat by those teams.
ADS are admitiing that even Four games are hard now imagine the Big East where at least four teams yearly MUST schedule THREE home games out of conference.

StillJonesing Wrote:

Maize Wrote:In a couple of years add East Carolina as a Football Only member with assurances that if they do certain things to upgrade their Basketball/Olympic facilities they would become full members at a later date.

What's wrong with our basketball arena?? It was renovated not to long ago before CUSA and the largest crowd was 8,082 so I guess thats about capacity a 8,100.



It's not like we can rent the Fed ex forum or need to, but there are plenty of successful schools with comparable facilities.....

Duke 9,300
Boston College 8,600
Georgia Tech 9,100
Virginia 8,400 (just moved out)
Miami 7,000
Stanford 7,600
Villinova 6,500 (on campus)
St Johns 6,000
Rutgers 8,000
Oregon 9,000
Ol' Miss 8,700
Northwestern 8,100
Charlotte 9,100
G. Washington 5,000
St. Joe's 3,200
Gonzaga 6,000

We do a decent job filling it up with 5,200 last year for an 8 win team with out a great home schedule. We are pretty much in line with plenty of "power conference" teams with faclities and support already. It's a great atmosphere by all accounts, and is expandable if needed. I'm not sure what the problem is with our other facilities either.

Great points SJ.

ECU has basically a perfect sized arena (not too small, not too big) that puts fans (mostly students) RIGHT ON TOP of the ACTION!

ECU...if they just land a few more ball players...could help create a HUGE homecourt advantage in the near future.

KL

StillJonesing Wrote:

Maize Wrote:In a couple of years add East Carolina as a Football Only member with assurances that if they do certain things to upgrade their Basketball/Olympic facilities they would become full members at a later date.

What's wrong with our basketball arena?? It was renovated not to long ago before CUSA and the largest crowd was 8,082 so I guess thats about capacity a 8,100.
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It's not like we can rent the Fed ex forum or need to, but there are plenty of successful schools with comparable facilities.....
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ECU would be a great addition for any conference, no doubt. The Pirates have good fans, good adminstration, etc. Brag all you want about the virtues of ECU and I'll agree with most, however, your comment about the FedEx Forum is bush league and childish. I doubt that you've ever entered the building. The school that you are putting down with your comment also has many positive aspects that make it appealing to the BE despite your vailed (and ineffective) shot. Good luck in your BE efforts and Happy Thanksgiving.

Low quality (markets with educational institutions) will not be brought into the BE.

God, you're an idiot tigershark.

oldtiger Wrote:

StillJonesing Wrote:

Maize Wrote:In a couple of years add East Carolina as a Football Only member with assurances that if they do certain things to upgrade their Basketball/Olympic facilities they would become full members at a later date.

What's wrong with our basketball arena?? It was renovated not to long ago before CUSA and the largest crowd was 8,082 so I guess thats about capacity a 8,100.
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It's not like we can rent the Fed ex forum or need to, but there are plenty of successful schools with comparable facilities.....
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ECU would be a great addition for any conference, no doubt. The Pirates have good fans, good adminstration, etc. Brag all you want about the virtues of ECU and I'll agree with most, however, your comment about the FedEx Forum is bush league and childish. I doubt that you've ever entered the building. The school that you are putting down with your comment also has many positive aspects that make it appealing to the BE despite your vailed (and ineffective) shot. Good luck in your BE efforts and Happy Thanksgiving.

Oldtiger, i honestly don't think that SJ was taking a shot at you guys with that comment. We can't really rent a place like FED EX because there aren't any other facilities of that size in greenville. The town doesn't have a civic center or convention center that would provide a larger building in which to play games. The "need to" part has more to do with the size of our fanbase than any shot at the tigers. ECU fanbase could fill our current arena with a BE schedule but wouldn't even come close if it had to fill up a place the size of FED EX. The size of our current arena fits our needs is basically what he was getting at. The memphis basketball faithfull are many in number and FED EX is an excellent showcase arena for your program.

Guys, who do you think is closer to the situation, RichRod or Tigershark? lmfao

Man, you are scared Guppy!

On the fed ex forum we have nothing like that available to use, and even if we did you're talking about 10k empty seats at this point. , we have no use for it. Bottom line is if you want a great basketball program Memphis is clearly the pick, no one was arguing that.

My point was for where our hoops program is right now there isn't a need for a fed ex forum or improvements. We made multi- million dollar improvements that were plenty adequate enough to get into a power basketball conference before.

Honestly I don't want to sacrifice the homecourt advantage, it works for Duke.

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