(10-07-2014 09:14 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:18 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Wilkie.
I doubt the ACC expands until either ND joins full or leaves. If ND ever joins in Swofford life time, he will be looking towards the Texas market.

ND will join in the year 2855. Book it...

Those links will soon be 3 years old. They were over a year old when The ACC announced its GOR on 4/15/13. In expansion terms those links are useless.

(10-02-2014 06:16 PM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 03:00 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Find me one WVU quote that suggests they're not happy on the island! Seriously...

If the island sucks, they can come back here if they want.

If UCF was on the island, I'd still be pretty happy.

Just for the record...

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/...-to-expand

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...uld-expand

I'm not saying it would ever in a million years be my alma mater, but the point is that the B12 expanding east would just be good for business. I strongly believe that they could possibly pry an ACC school into their grasp.

C jim those articles are 2 1/2 years old. I have no idea where Luck and WV stand today. I tend to agree with the thought you can shoot your self in the foot by thinking short term, rather than long. But the B12 like the old BE seem to do just that look short term $$.

Here is what I would like to see. Boot Idaho. Expand to 12 with JMU and Coastal Carolina. I think this would be ideal for the SBC.

East
Georgia Southern
KY or VA Team (EKU, JMU or Liberty) - JMU top choice and EKU if SBC team is poached.
NC or SC TEAM (Coastal Carolina, Citadel or Elon) Coastal Carolina top choice and Elon if SBC team is poached.
Appalachian State
Georgia State
Troy

West
Arkansas State
Texas State
Louisiana-Lafayette
Louisiana-Monroe
NMSU
Missouri School

(10-07-2014 10:13 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 09:14 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 07:18 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Wilkie.
I doubt the ACC expands until either ND joins full or leaves. If ND ever joins in Swofford life time, he will be looking towards the Texas market.

ND will join in the year 2855. Book it...

+++ for finding that. I remember when Zager and Evans first came out with that song. We still thought nuclear war was a strong possibility.

(10-08-2014 07:55 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Here is what I would like to see. Boot Idaho. Expand to 12 with JMU and Coastal Carolina. I think this would be ideal for the SBC.

East
Georgia Southern
KY or VA Team (EKU, JMU or Liberty) - JMU top choice and EKU if SBC team is poached.
NC or SC TEAM (Coastal Carolina, Citadel or Elon) Coastal Carolina top choice and Elon if SBC team is poached.
Appalachian State
Georgia State
Troy

West
Arkansas State
Texas State
Louisiana-Lafayette
Louisiana-Monroe
NMSU
Missouri School

Obviously, I'm a total Cincinnati homer. But I just wanted to throw this out there: A lot of Big 12 fans are turning their noses up at the thought of these teams being invited to their conference. While I understand their concern, I think these schools can compete in the Big 12 given a few years to catch up (much like TCU).

Cincinnati has been a fairly successful program since 2000 -- 11 bowl appearances along with 2 BCS game appearances and 5 10+ win seasons in 14 years. But I think the real turning point was Brian Kelly's arrival, and specifically our appearance in the 2009 Orange Bowl. Since that game, Cincinnati has gone 7-7 against P5 teams. And that's not including games against our former Big East foes Louisville, WVU, Rutgers, Pitt, and Syracuse -- we are 13-8 against those teams during the same timeframe. Here is the rundown:

2009 (12-1, #8)

@ #24 Oregon State W 28-18
vs. Illinois W 49-36
vs. #3 Florida (Sugar Bowl) L 24-51

2010 (4-8)

@ NC State L 19-30
vs. #8 Oklahoma L 29-31

2011 (10-3, #25)

@ Tennessee L 23-45
vs. NC State W 44-14
vs. Vanderbilt (Liberty Bowl) W 31-24

2012 (10-3)

vs. Virginia Tech (played at FedExField Landover, MD) W 27-24
vs. Duke (Belk Bowl) W 48-34

2013 (9-4)

vs. Purdue W 42-7
@ Illinois L 17-45
vs. North Carolina (Belk Bowl) L 17-39

2014 (2-2)

@ #22 Ohio State L 28-50

My point is that I believe the AAC teams can compete in the Big 12 if given the opportunity. It might be a few years before any of the possible new additions compete for a league championship, but they aren't going to get the doors blown off them either. Cincy, ECU, UCF, and USF will build themselves up enough before the next TV deal is negotiated to help the conference.

Cincinnati has played the P5 tough with 3-star recruits and a modest athletic budget. The few times we've gotten to host big names like Oklahoma and WVU, we played the games at Paul Brown Stadium and drew 58K and 48K, respectively. Yes, some of these schools are "projects" but they would all gladly take a smaller share of the money pie and will be able to compete fairly quickly given the resources to do so.

Anyhow, that was me being a total homer and stating our case to be included in the Big 12.

Whether right or wrong, justified or not, I can understand why none of those schools would be overly appealing to the BigXII. None of them have a "brand" and none of them carry their respective markets. Only two make any real sense for the BigXII, IMO...and that's Cincinnati and Memphis. Both would strengthen the basketball side of the conference and would plant a BigXII flag in SEC and B1G territory. They both also have solid TV markets and recruiting grounds.

(10-08-2014 07:59 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Obviously, I'm a total Cincinnati homer. But I just wanted to throw this out there: A lot of Big 12 fans are turning their noses up at the thought of these teams being invited to their conference. While I understand their concern, I think these schools can compete in the Big 12 given a few years to catch up (much like TCU).

Cincinnati has been a fairly successful program since 2000 -- 11 bowl appearances along with 2 BCS game appearances and 5 10+ win seasons in 14 years. But I think the real turning point was Brian Kelly's arrival, and specifically our appearance in the 2009 Orange Bowl. Since that game, Cincinnati has gone 7-7 against P5 teams. And that's not including games against our former Big East foes Louisville, WVU, Rutgers, Pitt, and Syracuse -- we are 13-8 against those teams during the same timeframe. Here is the rundown:

2009 (12-1, #8)

@ #24 Oregon State W 28-18
vs. Illinois W 49-36
vs. #3 Florida (Sugar Bowl) L 24-51

2010 (4-8)

@ NC State L 19-30
vs. #8 Oklahoma L 29-31

2011 (10-3, #25)

@ Tennessee L 23-45
vs. NC State W 44-14
vs. Vanderbilt (Liberty Bowl) W 31-24

2012 (10-3)

vs. Virginia Tech (played at FedExField Landover, MD) W 27-24
vs. Duke (Belk Bowl) W 48-34

2013 (9-4)

vs. Purdue W 42-7
@ Illinois L 17-45
vs. North Carolina (Belk Bowl) L 17-39

2014 (2-2)

@ #22 Ohio State L 28-50

My point is that I believe the AAC teams can compete in the Big 12 if given the opportunity. It might be a few years before any of the possible new additions compete for a league championship, but they aren't going to get the doors blown off them either. Cincy, ECU, UCF, and USF will build themselves up enough before the next TV deal is negotiated to help the conference.

Cincinnati has played the P5 tough with 3-star recruits and a modest athletic budget. The few times we've gotten to host big names like Oklahoma and WVU, we played the games at Paul Brown Stadium and drew 58K and 48K, respectively. Yes, some of these schools are "projects" but they would all gladly take a smaller share of the money pie and will be able to compete fairly quickly given the resources to do so.

Anyhow, that was me being a total homer and stating our case to be included in the Big 12.

I totally agree with you. I think UC would be a great addition to the Big 12.

GREG SWAIM SHOW (@GSwaim)
10/9/14, 10:05 PM
#Big12 knows they have to add teams. Not many left, so who'd you take, and why? #BYU #UCF #UCBearcats #USF #UConn #CSURams #UNLV #GoTigersGo

(10-10-2014 05:31 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  GREG SWAIM SHOW (@GSwaim)
10/9/14, 10:05 PM
#Big12 knows they have to add teams. Not many left, so who'd you take, and why? #BYU #UCF #UCBearcats #USF #UConn #CSURams #UNLV #GoTigersGo

Not exactly what I would call news, but it's good to see someone a little more credible talking about Big 12 expansion.

(10-10-2014 12:46 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 05:31 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  GREG SWAIM SHOW (@GSwaim)
10/9/14, 10:05 PM
#Big12 knows they have to add teams. Not many left, so who'd you take, and why? #BYU #UCF #UCBearcats #USF #UConn #CSURams #UNLV #GoTigersGo

Not exactly what I would call news, but it's good to see someone a little more credible talking about Big 12 expansion.

The Dude is actually more credible than Greg Swaim.

(10-10-2014 02:03 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 12:46 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(10-10-2014 05:31 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  GREG SWAIM SHOW (@GSwaim)
10/9/14, 10:05 PM
#Big12 knows they have to add teams. Not many left, so who'd you take, and why? #BYU #UCF #UCBearcats #USF #UConn #CSURams #UNLV #GoTigersGo

Not exactly what I would call news, but it's good to see someone a little more credible talking about Big 12 expansion.

The Dude is actually more credible than Greg Swaim.

This... Swaim predicted ND to Big 12(Full member) among other majorly wrong prediction or "insider knowledge.

December looking like the timeframe(?)

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/coll...05507.html

(08-25-2016 08:07 AM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  December looking like the timeframe(?)

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/coll...05507.html

Reviving a 2 year old post with a week-old link. Welcome?

Wow, 2014.

Someone post a picture of the Game of Thrones guy raising the dead.

(08-25-2016 10:25 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Wow, 2014.

Someone post a picture of the Game of Thrones guy raising the dead.

Or someone be inspired by this thread to start a poll about when expansion will be announced