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RE: "A la carte" sports - It is here!! NBA and ESPN to offer first.
(10-10-2014 05:29 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(10-10-2014 05:15 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Internet is $29 for 15Mbps and I'll be at the gym watching TNF for free while you are on couch for 7th day of the week gaining weight being a "sports" fan.

I think most people here know I don't take things that personally, but where the heck do you get off presuming to know anything about anyone's lifestyle habits? Is it shocking to you that people on a sports fan message board actually like watching sports? I work a ton of hours a week as a corporate lawyer, commute an hour each way, and then take care of 5-year old twins. I literally don't have a free weekend on the calendar until January with so many events and activities. I might get a couple of hours of downtime each weeknight, so I like using such downtime to watch what I actually want to watch as opposed to whatever crap show is on CBS that evening. My "downtime" last night was that I watched the TNF game and the Blackhawks game (at the same time with DirecTV picture-in-picture split screen) while running for an hour on my own treadmill at home and reading through work emails and The Economist. Get off your high horse - I might be a lot of things, but lazy isn't one of them.

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http://recode.net/2014/10/15/hbo-says-it...next-year/

HBO to start putting a web-only version that will side step pay-TV.
10-15-2014 11:02 AM
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HBO is already a la carte. Really doesn't change anything.
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(10-15-2014 04:12 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  HBO is already a la carte. Really doesn't change anything.

Uhhh....You missed the point. HBO going solo with out being tied to TV is the game changer. You can't get HBO via TV without pay for a basic or bundled service.
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It's not the game changer in the regard of this thread. The game changer is one of the networks who sell wholesale allow themselves to be purchased without cable, and then we can see the difference in price. Right now, it makes sense for HBO to do so, because they lose nothing by doing it. They actually gain the ability to get more subscribers.

Thus it is not a game changer. It is actually less of a game changer than when ESPN 3 first came on the market. Then you could actually get ESPN without cable (this has since changed). This isn't nearly exactly like the MLB package you can buy (where as you use dot have to have cable to do so), which obviously means it is not a "game changer."

Also the market for people who don't want to pay for cable, but want to pay for HBO (remember, they don't have a library of old TV shows like Netflix does) is likely to be minimal at best. I would imagine that most of the people who subscribe will be people out of the country, or cable subscribers who's cable servicer doesn't carry HBO Go, at which point they can drop the cable HBO, and order it online, and get the best of both worlds. This is hardly a game changer.

Now if a widely distributed cable network did this (ESPN, TNT, TBS, USA), or one of the former a la carte networks did this (Disney, AMC, Bravo) then you certainly would have a point. But right now, because you have to pay extra for HBO anyway, it really doesn't make for a new model, or a change in the marketplace. You either pay your cable company or your internet company (or you pay HBO directly to use the internet), but you pay the same, and HBO gets paid the same. No game has been changed.
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And we don't even know how it will work or be priced. They promise to talk to their partners (cable and sat) first. Is the game changed if you order HBO by calling your internet provider who charges you for it and collects the fee? If I'm HBO and have seen net providers throttle Netflix until Netflix paid for better access I would give that model strong consideration.


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(10-15-2014 05:57 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  And we don't even know how it will work or be priced. They promise to talk to their partners (cable and sat) first. Is the game changed if you order HBO by calling your internet provider who charges you for it and collects the fee? If I'm HBO and have seen net providers throttle Netflix until Netflix paid for better access I would give that model strong consideration.


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HBO isn't the coffin in the nail for $60 dollar basic cable packages but it might be the coffin in the nail for $200 dollar premium packages. Instead of paying an extra $100 dollars for the premium movie channels if you can stream HBO content for $15 it will allow you to drop down to the basic package and tack on HBO streaming.

What does HBO going for $15 do to other bundled movie channels that don't have the original programming? I would say they are in a heap of trouble because nobody is going to buy 5 of them for $5 dollars a piece. Maybe 1 if it fits a niche like International Films.
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(10-15-2014 05:16 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  It's not the game changer in the regard of this thread. The game changer is one of the networks who sell wholesale allow themselves to be purchased without cable, and then we can see the difference in price. Right now, it makes sense for HBO to do so, because they lose nothing by doing it. They actually gain the ability to get more subscribers.

Thus it is not a game changer. It is actually less of a game changer than when ESPN 3 first came on the market. Then you could actually get ESPN without cable (this has since changed). This isn't nearly exactly like the MLB package you can buy (where as you use dot have to have cable to do so), which obviously means it is not a "game changer."

Also the market for people who don't want to pay for cable, but want to pay for HBO (remember, they don't have a library of old TV shows like Netflix does) is likely to be minimal at best. I would imagine that most of the people who subscribe will be people out of the country, or cable subscribers who's cable servicer doesn't carry HBO Go, at which point they can drop the cable HBO, and order it online, and get the best of both worlds. This is hardly a game changer.

Now if a widely distributed cable network did this (ESPN, TNT, TBS, USA), or one of the former a la carte networks did this (Disney, AMC, Bravo) then you certainly would have a point. But right now, because you have to pay extra for HBO anyway, it really doesn't make for a new model, or a change in the marketplace. You either pay your cable company or your internet company (or you pay HBO directly to use the internet), but you pay the same, and HBO gets paid the same. No game has been changed.

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(10-08-2014 11:44 AM)ECUPirated Wrote:  [Image: Rabbit-ears-Antenna-Dimensions.jpg]

Picks up 35 channels within 75 miles of my home.
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If I want to see/hear a game bad enough.

1. Buy tickets and attend.
2. Go to a local sports bar.
3. Listen to it on the radio.

Not paying for cable anymore for stuff I won't ever watch or to put money into the pockets of the contract conferences or ESPfN.

This is an example of not for everyone technology.

Huntsville, AL is a rather developed city and is considered one of the major technology hubs in the United States.

An antenna 10 minutes from downtown, 15 minutes from the second biggest research park in the country, 4 minutes from a University, and 8 minutes from one of the largest military bases in the country got me six channels and none of them consistently worked.

And it was not just my city in Birmingham, AL I had similar issues. Only a few channels would pick up and they would have so much attenuation you could not even watch it.

The only place I have seen antenna's work properly lately are in rural areas.
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Motley Fool telling investors that "Cable is Collapsing" right in front of you:

http://www.fool.com/investor-alert/stock...irect=true


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(10-22-2014 04:21 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  Motley Fool telling investors that "Cable is Collapsing" right in front of you:

http://www.fool.com/investor-alert/stock...irect=true


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Is Comcast going out of business?

Nope.

Let's say you call Comcast and tell 'em keep their stupid cable you don't want it.

So I feel so much better having "cut the cord". So what do I a do for TV? Rabbit ears!!!! In Little Rock there are nine broadcast licenses and with digital sub-channels I've "potentially" got 14 channels. Of course the obvious ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, PBS, CW that produce and distribute new content. Two run old shows (Retro and ME). Two have religious programming. One plays country music videos. One has WeatherNation. One offers "lifestyle" programming including a cooking show with Joey Fatone. One is targeted at African-American audiences.

So if I get the antenna positioned right I get at most six I would actually tune in and watch. That would put me at about 1/3rd the number of channels the average American watches.

I could watch Netflix or Hulu or Amazon Prime but that would require internet access.

While Motely Fool touts the miracle of Google Fiber I don't live in KC, Provo or Austin nor the nine metro areas they maybe possibly could be considering adding service in. If they were here I could get "free" internet for $300 but it would half as fast as my current internet service. For $70 I could get speeds 100X faster than my current service. For $120 I can get TV as well.

But that's not an option so $45 from ATT is my best choice but that price rises to $61 after a year and I get ESPN3 which is carrying more shared content with the ESPN Family (watched FSU-ND last weekend). But they are paying a carriage fee for that and it will likely rise.

I'm not going to kill Comcast because Comcast is also selling net access.

Eventually Comcast will free up bandwidth by going with a straight IPTV delivery technology.

Then they will offer me carrots. Pay for more bandwidth and they'll throw in access to more programming.

Beyond all that, Comcast is a content creator. They own a large number of channels and studios and broadcast rights. Even if I cut and go to ATT, odds are I'm still paying Comcast for content.
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(10-06-2014 09:39 AM)Topkat Wrote:  http://recode.net/2014/10/05/why-espn-th...tv-bundle/

I think the key phrase in the article is its another revenue stream. In my mind that means they will probably charge more for the streaming pay per view to protect their core cable/sat business.

Ding!

Heck, NBA just signed a record multi-billion $$ TV Network(s) deal...so another revenue stream is just icing on the cake for the now BOOMING league.
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(10-10-2014 05:29 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  I think most people here know I don't take things that personally, but where the heck do you get off presuming to know anything about anyone's lifestyle habits? Is it shocking to you that people on a sports fan message board actually like watching sports? I work a ton of hours a week as a corporate lawyer, commute an hour each way, and then take care of 5-year old twins. I literally don't have a free weekend on the calendar until January with so many events and activities. I might get a couple of hours of downtime each weeknight, so I like using such downtime to watch what I actually want to watch as opposed to whatever crap show is on CBS that evening. My "downtime" last night was that I watched the TNF game and the Blackhawks game (at the same time with DirecTV picture-in-picture split screen) while running for an hour on my own treadmill at home and reading through work emails and The Economist. Get off your high horse - I might be a lot of things, but lazy isn't one of them.

Its funny watching you tell someone else to "get off your high horse", when that's exactly what you do in sooooo many of your posts.

You could have just said you live a busy life (like almost all of us), but you didn't...because you can't resist GETTING on your high horse.
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