(11-18-2014 01:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:09 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 09:24 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 11:38 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Yeah me too!

Yes, I'd bet on Georgia Southern as well.

We are already as good or better than them in just about every sport save football. So we have to fix football, and actually having more than 5 people show up to games.

Thanks

Fixed that for you.

When I need advice from folks who are major and mid major school fans, I will come knock on the door under the bridge where you live pal.

Carry on.

LOL - but you will take it from no-major schools

(11-18-2014 01:52 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:09 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 09:24 AM)bullet Wrote:  Yes, I'd bet on Georgia Southern as well.

We are already as good or better than them in just about every sport save football. So we have to fix football, and actually having more than 5 people show up to games.

Thanks

Fixed that for you.

When I need advice from folks who are major and mid major school fans, I will come knock on the door under the bridge where you live pal.

Carry on.

LOL - but you will take it from no-major schools

Dude, pick a school to root for. But right now youre trolling as per usual and your a fan of Nothern Arizona and Illinois. So crap and crap with a TV contract. Congrats. Crap averages 8900 a game in attendance. Crap with a TV contract averages a G5 worthy 42k. So back under the bridge pal.

(11-18-2014 01:57 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:52 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:09 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 12:52 PM)panama Wrote:  We are already as good or better than them in just about every sport save football. So we have to fix football, and actually having more than 5 people show up to games.

Thanks

Fixed that for you.

When I need advice from folks who are major and mid major school fans, I will come knock on the door under the bridge where you live pal.

Carry on.

LOL - but you will take it from no-major schools

Dude, pick a school to root for. But right now youre trolling as per usual and your a fan of Nothern Arizona and Illinois. So crap and crap with a TV contract. Congrats. Crap averages 8900 a game in attendance. Crap with a TV contract averages a G5 worthy 42k. So back under the bridge pal.

I did pick a school to root for - both colleges I have attended. Fans of them regardless of how well they do.

NAU's attendance is 8900, yes. But that is more than GaState's butts in the seat. And NAU has more wins over FBS teams in the past two years than GaState does. :)


And lol at a GaState fan calling anyone crap :)

(11-18-2014 02:06 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:57 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:52 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:16 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:09 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Fixed that for you.

When I need advice from folks who are major and mid major school fans, I will come knock on the door under the bridge where you live pal.

Carry on.

LOL - but you will take it from no-major schools

Dude, pick a school to root for. But right now youre trolling as per usual and your a fan of Nothern Arizona and Illinois. So crap and crap with a TV contract. Congrats. Crap averages 8900 a game in attendance. Crap with a TV contract averages a G5 worthy 42k. So back under the bridge pal.

I did pick a school to root for - both colleges I have attended. Fans of them regardless of how well they do.

NAU's attendance is 8900, yes. But that is more than GaState's butts in the seat. And NAU has more wins over FBS teams in the past two years than GaState does. :)


And lol at a GaState fan calling anyone crap :)

How do we know what NAU's butts in seats are? And no it isnt.

See our beat writer gets bored and actually asks for the actual.

At any rate congrats on that one win over UNLV football.




Returning to the topic of the thread, I hope UAB football continues. #FreeUAB

(11-18-2014 02:18 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 02:06 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:57 PM)panama Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:52 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 01:16 PM)panama Wrote:  When I need advice from folks who are major and mid major school fans, I will come knock on the door under the bridge where you live pal.

Carry on.

LOL - but you will take it from no-major schools

Dude, pick a school to root for. But right now youre trolling as per usual and your a fan of Nothern Arizona and Illinois. So crap and crap with a TV contract. Congrats. Crap averages 8900 a game in attendance. Crap with a TV contract averages a G5 worthy 42k. So back under the bridge pal.

I did pick a school to root for - both colleges I have attended. Fans of them regardless of how well they do.

NAU's attendance is 8900, yes. But that is more than GaState's butts in the seat. And NAU has more wins over FBS teams in the past two years than GaState does. :)


And lol at a GaState fan calling anyone crap :)

How do we know what NAU's butts in seats are? And no it isnt.

See our beat writer gets bored and actually asks for the actual.

At any rate congrats on that one win over UNLV football.




Returning to the topic of the thread, I hope UAB football continues. #FreeUAB

thank you. And congrats on the one point home win over Abilene Christian, who NAU beat at ACU the next week :)


And yes, we do agree on one thing - #FREEUAB

(11-17-2014 09:32 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  The schools that were on the list last time were Louisiana, Texas State, New Mexico State, JMU, Delaware and a couple of "Ohio Mac Schools". Who the Mac schools were for sure I have no idea. My assumption was that it was Toledo, Miami, Akron or Ohio.

I don't think you can do a "Miami or Ohio" ~ the Battle of the Bricks (which has been a painfully accurate name in some BBall renditions of the fight) is either both in or both out. And as the two Ohio River Valley schools rather than Great Lakes schools, they make the most sense geographically as well. But suggestions that the MAC schools want to move seem most likely to be idle speculation based on wishful thinking.

(11-18-2014 10:57 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  If CUSA does add a school, it will need to add in the West as you stated.

CUSA West would look like this:

UTEP, UTSA, Rice, Louisiana, USM, N. Texas, LA Tech

CUSA East:

Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MT, WKU, FIU, FAU

(11-18-2014 11:23 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Texas State and UL-L would both be good choices. I'd probably lean toward Texas State simply because the school is so large (nearly 37K students this fall), its ceiling is much higher.

That would make it:

CUSA West: UTEP, UTSA, Rice, Texas State, USM, N. Texas, LA Tech

CUSA East: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MT, WKU, FIU, FAU [/quote]

(11-18-2014 11:27 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The Cajuns come with a built in fan-base in Acadiana, and nearby, of over a million people. If the Cajuns could ever harness that they would be a serious program. Admittedly, that's a big if.

If you can count people living "and nearby" whether or not they've been "harnessed" as actual fans, Texas State has the 1.3m of the Austin urban area. I know there is a Big12 school which attracts some interest in the area (and statewide), but then there is an SEC school that shares a State with Louisiana which attracts some statewide interest as well.

More to the point would be whether the Texas schools in CUSA would welcome or be displeased by another Texas school. It seems like UTEP, Rice and North Texas would have every reason to welcome another Texas school in a different part of Texas, so that might boil down to whether UTSA would welcome a neighbor or not. The rumors I've heard are that LA Tech is not eager to have another Louisiana school in the conference, but I have no idea how well founded those rumors may be.

(11-18-2014 05:47 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(11-17-2014 09:32 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  The schools that were on the list last time were Louisiana, Texas State, New Mexico State, JMU, Delaware and a couple of "Ohio Mac Schools". Who the Mac schools were for sure I have no idea. My assumption was that it was Toledo, Miami, Akron or Ohio.

I don't think you can do a "Miami or Ohio" ~ the Battle of the Bricks (which has been a painfully accurate name in some BBall renditions of the fight) is either both in or both out. And as the two Ohio River Valley schools rather than Great Lakes schools, they make the most sense geographically as well. But suggestions that the MAC schools want to move seem most likely to be idle speculation based on wishful thinking.

(11-18-2014 10:57 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  If CUSA does add a school, it will need to add in the West as you stated.

CUSA West would look like this:

UTEP, UTSA, Rice, Louisiana, USM, N. Texas, LA Tech

CUSA East:

Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MT, WKU, FIU, FAU

(11-18-2014 11:23 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Texas State and UL-L would both be good choices. I'd probably lean toward Texas State simply because the school is so large (nearly 37K students this fall), its ceiling is much higher.

That would make it:

CUSA West: UTEP, UTSA, Rice, Texas State, USM, N. Texas, LA Tech

CUSA East: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, MT, WKU, FIU, FAU

(11-18-2014 11:27 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The Cajuns come with a built in fan-base in Acadiana, and nearby, of over a million people. If the Cajuns could ever harness that they would be a serious program. Admittedly, that's a big if.

If you can count people living "and nearby" whether or not they've been "harnessed" as actual fans, Texas State has the 1.3m of the Austin urban area. I know there is a Big12 school which attracts some interest in the area (and statewide), but then there is an SEC school that shares a State with Louisiana which attracts some statewide interest as well.

More to the point would be whether the Texas schools in CUSA would welcome or be displeased by another Texas school. It seems like UTEP, Rice and North Texas would have every reason to welcome another Texas school in a different part of Texas, so that might boil down to whether UTSA would welcome a neighbor or not. The rumors I've heard are that LA Tech is not eager to have another Louisiana school in the conference, but I have no idea how well founded those rumors may be.
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Acadiana is a distinct cultural area; it's unlike just about any other place in the US. Lafayette is the heart of that distinct area. San Marcos is not the heart of anything, and certainly doesn't hold a place culturally for anybody.

The point is that there is a cultural group that sees itself as distinct and separate from the rest of the state and Lafayette is the center of that. The Cajuns have always been, to a decent portion of Acadiana, a symbol of the region. If the Cajuns continue down this line of success they stand a greater chance of taking full advantage of their unique position.

(11-18-2014 05:52 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Acadiana is a distinct cultural area; it's unlike just about any other place in the US. Lafayette is the heart of that distinct area. San Marcos is not the heart of anything, and certainly doesn't hold a place culturally for anybody.

The point is that there is a cultural group that sees itself as distinct and separate from the rest of the state and Lafayette is the center of that. The Cajuns have always been, to a decent portion of Acadiana, a symbol of the region. If the Cajuns continue down this line of success they stand a greater chance of taking full advantage of their unique position.

The part about Lafayette and Acadiana is all true.

The historian Robert Caro wrote about San Marcos and the small college that future-President Lyndon B. Johnson attended there in the 1920s. To say that it was "not the heart of anything" is putting it mildly. But that was 80-90 years ago, and both San Marcos and Southwest Texas State Teachers College have come a long way since then.

(11-17-2014 09:32 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  The schools that were on the list last time were Louisiana, Texas State, New Mexico State, JMU, Delaware and a couple of "Ohio Mac Schools". Who the Mac schools were for sure I have no idea. My assumption was that it was Toledo, Miami, Akron or Ohio. UMass was never on the final list and neither was Appy State. Appy only had one vote of support from all the schools. The day we added Charlotte closed the door for good on Appy. I can see CUSA taking a look at one of the Georgia Schools. I just don't think that would go well and in the end they will want to add one in the West to keep the balance for when Charlotte enters. My money is on 1. Louisiana/Texas State along with a New Mexico State being a dark horse.

I forgot about the interest in Toledo (I do not think any of the other MAC schools were under consideration (but I could be wrong). I still think UMass was in the discussion, Herd.. but their request for FB-only was pretty much their deathknell for any offer.

And I never heard that JMU was a candidate.. in fact, I'd be shocked if they even made the first list last time.

The only way C-USA goes to sixteen is if some combination of the following happens.

1. The eastern edge of the conference (which would be 7 of 13 votes) has a school they insist upon adding.
2. USM assesses the landscape and successfully lobbies for a solution that would move them to the east and that solution is adding three to the west.
3. Fox wants to ramp up its regional coverage, its weeknight content, and games on FS2 and wants to build its online offerings in order to keep pace with the rapidly growing in content and viewership ESPN3.

Even if Fox gains the Big 10 outright in the new negotiations, the bulk of that content is going to OTA Fox and FS1 and does not help regional, weeknight (much), FS2 nor online.

For all the talk of splitting CFP dollars, that's really not that significant. The difference per team vs. 12 team league and 16 is only $250,000 per school and only a $107,000 difference from 14 and 16. If you assume the conference overhead is $2 million paid out of the revenue. The distributable part of the CFP money if it were used to pay over head is $833,333 per team in a 12 team alignment, $714,285 in a 14 team and $625,000 in a 16. That's a drop of just under $90k.

A 21% increase in TV rights from the current to a 16 team model is revenue neutral.

If you looking some silly data (like say television ratings over the past several years).

Then adding AState and Louisiana to the west and a MAC school like Ohio to the east, not only works on a map, it works somewhat if you still think markets are relevant and if you think the more relevant data is does anyone give enough of a damn to tune the TV to that channel that team is on, it works much better. But all that would hinge on what Fox has in mind.

What ESPN thinks is most certainly not relevant. The WWL is over-stocked and has no reason to bid other than to warehouse content by shifting to ESPN3. CBS has already shown they aren't going to be a serious player. NBC might enter the fray but have tended to be bargain hunters. It most likely comes down to the vision at Fox.

If Fox isn't worried about regional content, FS2, weeknights, and online, they have no incentive to do much with their CUSA bid, if they are in an expansive mode then CUSA is an important property.

(11-18-2014 05:52 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Acadiana is a distinct cultural area; it's unlike just about any other place in the US. Lafayette is the heart of that distinct area. San Marcos is not the heart of anything, and certainly doesn't hold a place culturally for anybody.

The point is that there is a cultural group that sees itself as distinct and separate from the rest of the state and Lafayette is the center of that. The Cajuns have always been, to a decent portion of Acadiana, a symbol of the region. If the Cajuns continue down this line of success they stand a greater chance of taking full advantage of their unique position.

Which still boils down to, "if this can be done in the future, then there will be another argument to add to their side of the ledger".

And actually seems to increase rather than reduce the risk that LA Tech may be opposed to helping ULouisiana to carve out that position in Acadiana.