(02-27-2015 04:24 PM)Liberty Fan Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 12:49 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  JMU vs SMU on 9/26

I am constantly puzzled and wonder about the reaction from LU. We had word this might take place.

Quote, "I want to specifically thank Athletics Director Jeff Barber and his staff at Liberty for working with us on this change," Bourne added. "We look forward to finding a mutually-agreeable date in the future to place this game back on our respective schedules."

Okay, how long before Jeff makes a statement to LU fans?

I've got an inkling the reason that this took so long was because when JMU approached LU, LU needed to hustle and find an option before letting JMU out of the agreement. Barber wouldn't just let them leave without some type of fall back plan. I'll bet we'll hear something soon. If it is a D2 game, that will be terrible and a huge backward step. Let's hope it something bigger and better than we think. And JMU does owe us one for whatever that is worth.

LU Release Wrote:Liberty and James Madison have agreed to seek future scheduling opportunities between the in-state programs.

Liberty is aggressively seeking to fill the opening in its schedule with an FCS home contest and will announce plans in the future once they are finalized.

Click Here for Full release

No statement from the AD but at least it appears neither side has slammed the door shut on future matchups.

It really isn't that big of a deal to play a D II school. It sucks but we don't have many options.

(02-27-2015 05:28 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  It really isn't that big of a deal to play a D II school. It sucks but we don't have many options.

It's no big deal if one is a Big South team not named Coastal or Liberty and you are comfortable being in a weak FCS conference, and drawing 2k to 5k people per game is satisfactory. If a team is seeking FBS status, that is a weak and backward move. The lashing LU took from last year's game is an indication of how others rate D2 games. Games like that takes the LU program away from it's greater goal. LU playing D2 teams must be in the past unless absolutely necessary, as a last resort. Let's don't get complacent and think it's no big deal to play a D2 school. FBS conferences want to see quality wins against quality opponents.

It looks to me that all you'd have to do is pluck someone from SC States schedule. Is it official, or not, whether they will even exist next year?

I say your AD has been in on the deal the whole time and has something already shaking. The thing has a smell to it. I'm not saying its a bad odor, just that there's something not being shared.

Yes, I like that we have an FBS game. But why would SMU come to us, when they had schools much closer still in need of a game, especially at this late of a date. I have been following their boards since their schedule was announced and they had listed out 2 or 3 teams who's schedule would have worked for them and JMU was not even mentioned until I asked them to sniff around a little.

(02-27-2015 06:32 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  It looks to me that all you'd have to do is pluck someone from SC States schedule. Is it official, or not, whether they will even exist next year?

I say your AD has been in on the deal the whole time and has something already shaking. The thing has a smell to it. I'm not saying its a bad odor, just that there's something not being shared.

Yes, I like that we have an FBS game. But why would SMU come to us, when they had schools much closer still in need of a game, especially at this late of a date. I have been following their boards since their schedule was announced and they had listed out 2 or 3 teams who's schedule would have worked for them and JMU was not even mentioned until I asked them to sniff around a little.

A wise contention would be that JMU and LU were working hand-in-hand to make this work for both programs. It's inconceivable that our AD would agree to this unless another agreement was in place. Again, kudos to JMU for landing the FBS game. You needed it and it seems to quieted some of the rumblings about student fees, non FBS games and and Athletic mission on the JMU board.

(02-27-2015 06:42 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 06:32 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  It looks to me that all you'd have to do is pluck someone from SC States schedule. Is it official, or not, whether they will even exist next year?

I say your AD has been in on the deal the whole time and has something already shaking. The thing has a smell to it. I'm not saying its a bad odor, just that there's something not being shared.

Yes, I like that we have an FBS game. But why would SMU come to us, when they had schools much closer still in need of a game, especially at this late of a date. I have been following their boards since their schedule was announced and they had listed out 2 or 3 teams who's schedule would have worked for them and JMU was not even mentioned until I asked them to sniff around a little.

A wise contention would be that JMU and LU were working hand-in-hand to make this work for both programs. It's inconceivable that our AD would agree to this unless another agreement was in place. Again, kudos to JMU for landing the FBS game. You needed it and it seems to quieted some of the rumblings about student fees, non FBS games and and Athletic mission on the JMU board.

I suppose you are correct about our needing it, but from a personal standpoint, I was already counting on coming to the game against you.

For one, I stay with my in-laws and the last time we played I had 20 non-football people come with me to the game, in-laws, cousins of in-laws, girl friends of in-laws, wives, etc. etc. Somehow I had all but one or maybe two pulling for JMU even though they were all Madison Heights people.

Another great reason was that with all of those folk, your ticket office sold me the tickets for $11 per. I don't know if i'd have gotten them that cheap this time or not, but I do think that if I had 20 people they probably wouldn't go any higher than $20 per and maybe a little less.

With us now playing SMU, its one less game I'll be attending. All in all, it should help from a national exposure standpoint and we really need that. Nationally, you guys really don't have that issue. I was on a flight up to Liberty for the 2011 game and there were people going to the game (Flame supporters) from Canada on plane with me.

(02-27-2015 05:48 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 05:28 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  It really isn't that big of a deal to play a D II school. It sucks but we don't have many options.

It's no big deal if one is a Big South team not named Coastal or Liberty and you are comfortable being in a weak FCS conference, and drawing 2k to 5k people per game is satisfactory. If a team is seeking FBS status, that is a weak and backward move. The lashing LU took from last year's game is an indication of how others rate D2 games. Games like that takes the LU program away from it's greater goal. LU playing D2 teams must be in the past unless absolutely necessary, as a last resort. Let's don't get complacent and think it's no big deal to play a D2 school. FBS conferences want to see quality wins against quality opponents.

These things happen. Almost everyone has a full schedule so even if LU has to play a D II then it isn't the end of the world. I feel confident that school presidents won't look over Liberty because we played a D II school. Are FBS schools criticized when they play FCS? Only if they play more than one and the only reason they do that is because someone else cancelled.

(02-27-2015 07:19 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 05:48 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 05:28 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  It really isn't that big of a deal to play a D II school. It sucks but we don't have many options.

It's no big deal if one is a Big South team not named Coastal or Liberty and you are comfortable being in a weak FCS conference, and drawing 2k to 5k people per game is satisfactory. If a team is seeking FBS status, that is a weak and backward move. The lashing LU took from last year's game is an indication of how others rate D2 games. Games like that takes the LU program away from it's greater goal. LU playing D2 teams must be in the past unless absolutely necessary, as a last resort. Let's don't get complacent and think it's no big deal to play a D2 school. FBS conferences want to see quality wins against quality opponents.

These things happen. Almost everyone has a full schedule so even if LU has to play a D II then it isn't the end of the world. I feel confident that school presidents won't look over Liberty because we played a D II school. Are FBS schools criticized when they play FCS? Only if they play more than one and the only reason they do that is because someone else cancelled.

If there is a cancellation or rescheduling, and if LU has options of whose available, if they take a weaker D2 team over a more pertinent FCS team, that's a complacent, weak choice. Only if that is the last resort should LU schedule a D2 team. A stronger position would be to play the best available team, even if it meant losing a home game. App St and JMU took their lumps on the road playing better teams before finally breaking through. LU can do the same and should.

(02-27-2015 07:29 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 07:19 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 05:48 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 05:28 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  It really isn't that big of a deal to play a D II school. It sucks but we don't have many options.

It's no big deal if one is a Big South team not named Coastal or Liberty and you are comfortable being in a weak FCS conference, and drawing 2k to 5k people per game is satisfactory. If a team is seeking FBS status, that is a weak and backward move. The lashing LU took from last year's game is an indication of how others rate D2 games. Games like that takes the LU program away from it's greater goal. LU playing D2 teams must be in the past unless absolutely necessary, as a last resort. Let's don't get complacent and think it's no big deal to play a D2 school. FBS conferences want to see quality wins against quality opponents.

These things happen. Almost everyone has a full schedule so even if LU has to play a D II then it isn't the end of the world. I feel confident that school presidents won't look over Liberty because we played a D II school. Are FBS schools criticized when they play FCS? Only if they play more than one and the only reason they do that is because someone else cancelled.

If there is a cancellation or rescheduling, and if LU has options of whose available, if they take a weaker D2 team over a more pertinent FCS team, that's a complacent, weak choice. Only if that is the last resort should LU schedule a D2 team. A stronger position would be to play the best available team, even if it meant losing a home game. App St and JMU took their lumps on the road playing better teams before finally breaking through. LU can do the same and should.

To qualify for the playoffs, you must win 7 games against D1 opponents. With it being a 11 game season, the pressure will be on if one win is against D2. Three losses will be it. With that being said, NDSU just about always plays a D2 so does Delaware. Its not a big deal during the seasons where we can play 12 games.

(02-27-2015 07:29 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 07:19 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 05:48 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 05:28 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  It really isn't that big of a deal to play a D II school. It sucks but we don't have many options.

It's no big deal if one is a Big South team not named Coastal or Liberty and you are comfortable being in a weak FCS conference, and drawing 2k to 5k people per game is satisfactory. If a team is seeking FBS status, that is a weak and backward move. The lashing LU took from last year's game is an indication of how others rate D2 games. Games like that takes the LU program away from it's greater goal. LU playing D2 teams must be in the past unless absolutely necessary, as a last resort. Let's don't get complacent and think it's no big deal to play a D2 school. FBS conferences want to see quality wins against quality opponents.

These things happen. Almost everyone has a full schedule so even if LU has to play a D II then it isn't the end of the world. I feel confident that school presidents won't look over Liberty because we played a D II school. Are FBS schools criticized when they play FCS? Only if they play more than one and the only reason they do that is because someone else cancelled.

If there is a cancellation or rescheduling, and if LU has options of whose available, if they take a weaker D2 team over a more pertinent FCS team, that's a complacent, weak choice. Only if that is the last resort should LU schedule a D2 team. A stronger position would be to play the best available team, even if it meant losing a home game. App St and JMU took their lumps on the road playing better teams before finally breaking through. LU can do the same and should.

I am not saying a D II school should be our first choice. It just isn't the end of our FBS quest if we play one. I think there is a lot of overreaction going on right now.

(02-27-2015 07:50 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 07:29 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 07:19 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 05:48 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-27-2015 05:28 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  It really isn't that big of a deal to play a D II school. It sucks but we don't have many options.

It's no big deal if one is a Big South team not named Coastal or Liberty and you are comfortable being in a weak FCS conference, and drawing 2k to 5k people per game is satisfactory. If a team is seeking FBS status, that is a weak and backward move. The lashing LU took from last year's game is an indication of how others rate D2 games. Games like that takes the LU program away from it's greater goal. LU playing D2 teams must be in the past unless absolutely necessary, as a last resort. Let's don't get complacent and think it's no big deal to play a D2 school. FBS conferences want to see quality wins against quality opponents.

These things happen. Almost everyone has a full schedule so even if LU has to play a D II then it isn't the end of the world. I feel confident that school presidents won't look over Liberty because we played a D II school. Are FBS schools criticized when they play FCS? Only if they play more than one and the only reason they do that is because someone else cancelled.

If there is a cancellation or rescheduling, and if LU has options of whose available, if they take a weaker D2 team over a more pertinent FCS team, that's a complacent, weak choice. Only if that is the last resort should LU schedule a D2 team. A stronger position would be to play the best available team, even if it meant losing a home game. App St and JMU took their lumps on the road playing better teams before finally breaking through. LU can do the same and should.

I am not saying a D II school should be our first choice. It just isn't the end of our FBS quest if we play one. I think there is a lot of overreaction going on right now.

Fortunately LU is attempting to brand itself playing 2 FBS games a year. That is a statement. Let's just move forward and say we're going to play the best team we can in the replacement game. If it's anything less that's another story.

Here is what needs to happen, Montana State is looking for a home and home deal for the first week of the season. Delaware State has the week of the 26th of Sept off. Move your Delaware State game to the 26th have Montana State come to Liberty this year and skip a year with you going there in 2017. I say skip a year only so that you don't travel two times in one season to the state of Montana. This gives you as competitive of a game as you were to have with us. Gives you 6 home games and gives you a D1 game vs a D2 that hurts your chances of the playoffs.

(02-27-2015 11:41 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  Here is what needs to happen, Montana State is looking for a home and home deal for the first week of the season. Delaware State has the week of the 26th of Sept off. Move your Delaware State game to the 26th have Montana State come to Liberty this year and skip a year with you going there in 2017. I say skip a year only so that you don't travel two times in one season to the state of Montana. This gives you as competitive of a game as you were to have with us. Gives you 6 home games and gives you a D1 game vs a D2 that hurts your chances of the playoffs.

I think our Montana game this year is the end of a series, not the start so we wouldn't have to go back to Montana. But I don't know how much we want to increase our exposure in the state of Montana.

This isn't as bad as everyone is making it. I think we can still swing a FCS a replacement but even if we didn't 1 d2 school this year is acceptable since JMU did back out and left us in a bind.

(02-25-2015 03:35 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  You know what I'm talking about....LOL. I should say poster in the title.

Got a Linky for me? I've had multiple people bring it up, but I can't seem to find the post.

(02-28-2015 02:48 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(02-25-2015 03:35 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  You know what I'm talking about....LOL. I should say poster in the title.

Got a Linky for me? I've had multiple people bring it up, but I can't seem to find the post.

Chief, the loco link is below and starts at post #185. Extreme fan geauxcajuns posts unbelievable and crazy things, then defends himself for several posts, then when he realizes what a blunder he's made, he attempts to take it back and say he was kidding.

He's the chart topper for over the top extremism against LU. It's fairly intense back 'n forth among several LU posters, myself included. A note, geauxcajuns spelled minus as m nus and Curtis added the "i" for clarification plus added the blunder clause in his signature.

The link:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-727705-page-19.html

(02-28-2015 05:32 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-28-2015 02:48 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(02-25-2015 03:35 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  You know what I'm talking about....LOL. I should say poster in the title.

Got a Linky for me? I've had multiple people bring it up, but I can't seem to find the post.

Chief, the loco link is below and starts at post #185. Extreme fan geauxcajuns posts unbelievable and crazy things, then defends himself for several posts, then when he realizes what a blunder he's made, he attempts to take it back and say he was kidding.

He's the chart topper for over the top extremism against LU. It's fairly intense back 'n forth among several LU posters, myself included. A note, geauxcajuns spelled minus as m nus and Curtis added the "i" for clarification plus added the blunder clause in his signature.

The link:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-727705-page-19.html

I figured it's a good sig just to remind people how crazy some people can be.

(02-28-2015 05:32 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-28-2015 02:48 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(02-25-2015 03:35 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  You know what I'm talking about....LOL. I should say poster in the title.

Got a Linky for me? I've had multiple people bring it up, but I can't seem to find the post.

Chief, the loco link is below and starts at post #185. Extreme fan geauxcajuns posts unbelievable and crazy things, then defends himself for several posts, then when he realizes what a blunder he's made, he attempts to take it back and say he was kidding.

He's the chart topper for over the top extremism against LU. It's fairly intense back 'n forth among several LU posters, myself included. A note, geauxcajuns spelled minus as m nus and Curtis added the "i" for clarification plus added the blunder clause in his signature.

The link:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-727705-page-19.html

Gracias...

Two days old... so I can't really do anything about it this time. But obviously that won't be allowed to happen again.

(02-28-2015 06:57 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(02-28-2015 05:32 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-28-2015 02:48 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(02-25-2015 03:35 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  You know what I'm talking about....LOL. I should say poster in the title.

Got a Linky for me? I've had multiple people bring it up, but I can't seem to find the post.

Chief, the loco link is below and starts at post #185. Extreme fan geauxcajuns posts unbelievable and crazy things, then defends himself for several posts, then when he realizes what a blunder he's made, he attempts to take it back and say he was kidding.

He's the chart topper for over the top extremism against LU. It's fairly intense back 'n forth among several LU posters, myself included. A note, geauxcajuns spelled minus as m nus and Curtis added the "i" for clarification plus added the blunder clause in his signature.

The link:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-727705-page-19.html

Gracias...

Two days old... so I can't really do anything about it this time. But obviously that won't be allowed to happen again.

Chief, as a Mod, what is the protocol here? Do you give him a warning to tone it down on the board, send him a private email or PM warning, move the thread, give negative rating, end the thread or other? If timing was different and you could have taken action, what action would you have taken? We're in the process of choosing a board Mod and just thought this would be a good example of what actions to take in an extreme situation.