I expect there to be an "ESPN 30 for 30" on the topic of C*USA avoiding scheduling Sun Belt teams real soon.

(04-09-2015 05:19 PM)inutech Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 04:49 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 04:37 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Also I don't see these top tier Sunbelt teams trying to schedule top tier CUSA teams. Lets schedule Apples to Apples like our home and home against ULL. IF GA Southern wants a piece of CUSA, let them take a piece from the top. Come play us or Marshall. How about a home and home with Rice. Let stAte play Rice or UTEP.

I'm positive our ad reached out to Marshall. He'd gladly play any CUSA team is what I took from the article.

And they had something else pending.

Now you're acting like there is some big conspiracy.

It's hard to schedule. Especially home games. Welcome to FBS.

Nah. Ga Southern is currently the undefeated Sun Belt champs and they are on record calling out CUSA for avoiding us. If CUSA wants to be the G5 representative, they can't let stories like this get traction. If Ga Southern goes undefeated in the SBC again and is in the running for the G5 bowl, I'm sure we will use this to our advantage. "We challenged CUSA's top teams and none of them Will schedule us. They would rather play Akron and Eastern Michigan."

(04-09-2015 05:26 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 05:19 PM)inutech Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 04:49 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 04:37 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Also I don't see these top tier Sunbelt teams trying to schedule top tier CUSA teams. Lets schedule Apples to Apples like our home and home against ULL. IF GA Southern wants a piece of CUSA, let them take a piece from the top. Come play us or Marshall. How about a home and home with Rice. Let stAte play Rice or UTEP.

I'm positive our ad reached out to Marshall. He'd gladly play any CUSA team is what I took from the article.

And they had something else pending.

Now you're acting like there is some big conspiracy.

It's hard to schedule. Especially home games. Welcome to FBS.

Nah. Ga Southern is currently the undefeated Sun Belt champs and they are on record calling out CUSA for avoiding us. If CUSA wants to be the G5 representative, they can't let stories like this get traction. If Ga Southern goes undefeated in the SBC again and is in the running for the G5 bowl, I'm sure we will use this to our advantage. "We challenged CUSA's top teams and none of them Will schedule us. They would rather play Akron and Eastern Michigan."

You're way overstating this. It's debunkable in about 30 seconds.

The people on the committee have experience in scheduling. They know how this works. Just like Marshall didn't get any credit for trying to schedule Louisville, y'all aren't going to get any credit for trying to schedule Marshall. And to the P5 centered world, all G5 schools are the same anyway.

Nobody is ducking you, despite what your AD says. And just the fact of himi saying it to a blog isn't going to be some big terrible PR nightmare for CUSA (because, again, you're reading between the lines quite a bit here, and every AD will tell you that it's hard to schedule).

Y'all are good right now, but there is no guarantee that you'll be good in 3 or 5 or 10 years when future Marshall schedules are open. You're not rivals, you don't have awesome history, you're not close. I don't see why they wouldn't want to play you necessarily, but there really isn't a compelling reason why they would (other than, they were good in 2014 and you were good in 2014). They can't go back in time and schedule you for 2014 (which wouldn't have made a difference).

This is a non-issue.

(04-09-2015 05:26 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 05:19 PM)inutech Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 04:49 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 04:37 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Also I don't see these top tier Sunbelt teams trying to schedule top tier CUSA teams. Lets schedule Apples to Apples like our home and home against ULL. IF GA Southern wants a piece of CUSA, let them take a piece from the top. Come play us or Marshall. How about a home and home with Rice. Let stAte play Rice or UTEP.

I'm positive our ad reached out to Marshall. He'd gladly play any CUSA team is what I took from the article.

And they had something else pending.

Now you're acting like there is some big conspiracy.

It's hard to schedule. Especially home games. Welcome to FBS.

Nah. Ga Southern is currently the undefeated Sun Belt champs and they are on record calling out CUSA for avoiding us. If CUSA wants to be the G5 representative, they can't let stories like this get traction. If Ga Southern goes undefeated in the SBC again and is in the running for the G5 bowl, I'm sure we will use this to our advantage. "We challenged CUSA's top teams and none of them Will schedule us. They would rather play Akron and Eastern Michigan."

Man, no wonder you guys are trying to find tougher competition, you've got a cake conference schedule 2 years in a row. Why don't you play the best in your conference before coming over here telling us to. You're going to have to beat WVU or UGA to have a shot at the access bowl and it's not going to matter how much belly aching your AD does.

(04-09-2015 04:58 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 04:50 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  The big misconception with scheduling is everyone thinks an AD can waive a magic wand and schedule any team in the country whenever they want.

It just looks bad on CUSA when the undefeated Sun Belt champ's AD calls out CUSA saying your top teams are scared to play us for fear of losing. That is basically what he is saying and in the new system where the committee decides the G5 rep, it makes Ga Southern look good.

Marshall has never had a history of signing games with Sun Belt schools. Since Marshall has moved up we have signed exactly 2 series with Sun Belt schools and only one contract was fulfilled. We signed a 2-1 with Troy when they 1st moved up. And we had a series that was signed with WKU for 17 and 18 that was voided after WKU joined CUSA.

Ive already ask Mike Hamrick, Marshall's AD and he has said he has no plans to play Appy or GA Southern just because they were in the SoCon.

And before you get into the "But there is history there". Maybe with Appy there is a lil since Marshall and Appy were in the same conference from 78-96. And well Appy was Marshall's 1st SoCon win. But GSU there really isn't a history. Marshall and GA Southern have played 6 times and Marshall is 4-2 against the Eagles, 4-0 while they were in the SonCon and Marshall outscored GA Southern 113-30 in those 4 games.

You will continue to see Marshall in series with Ohio, Miami OH (Little Miami), Akron and others. The one out of the MAC Id like to see a series with is Toledo.

(04-09-2015 04:08 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 04:04 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Will CUSA's avoidance strategy of top Sun Belt teams hurt CUSA's reputation?

Seems to me that CUSA taking on SBC teams hurt its reputation already...granted from the other side of the fence, the move ups are happy to get out.

I think some people around here don't get what CUSA used to be versus what it is now. Its current incarnation is a shell of its former self. Granted, for those still here, there are worse alternatives out there.

Nice backhanded compliment. You guys made the Big East some much better oh wait.......

What Big East?

If you want to compare apples to apples look at the schools in CUSA 1.0 and the BE at that time.

Miami, VT, WVU ...

Louisville, ECU, USM, and arguably a few others...

And the BE took from CUSA to fill its roster just like the ACC took from the BE, just like CUSA took from the MAC, MWC, SBC ect....

You are lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

That said, I'm not sure why La Tech didn't get some looks for CUSA 2.0 cause geographically speaking I think that could have been money for both sides.

You invited several schools who can't draw flies and now you won't return calls to play. Of course UNT I can understand since stAte has beat them the last 8 times we have played. Talking football here you know the sport that drives the car. LOL....but y'all are so good. I think we have lost WKU the last 2 times we played but I doubt we would dodge them....LOL big bad CUSA. You do know a lot of your team's came from [/font]the SBC. Did any of them average 20000 this year. Thank goodness for UTEP or you would be behind us in average attendance. LOL...but y'all are the elite....LOL.

USM fans were ticked to see us schedule home and homes with Texas State, South Alabama, App State, and Troy. You think our AD is gonna risk more anger by scheduling a home and home with a brand new D1 school? Heck no. It's not about your success. It's about your pedigree.

i think UTSA is 11-1 vs teams who are in the Sun Belt in our first 4 years of football.

(04-09-2015 06:14 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  USM fans were ticked to see us schedule home and homes with Texas State, South Alabama, App State, and Troy. You think our AD is gonna risk more anger by scheduling a home and home with a brand new D1 school? Heck no. It's not about your success. It's about your pedigree.

Uhhhh...I'd say this is pretty good pedigree. We have never been anything other than D1, we're just at the highest level of Division 1 now. The most national championships in D1-AA history, multiple Walter Payton award winners...c'mon man we're not Troy.

National championships
1985 - Coach Erk Russell and the Eagles won their first national championship vs. Furman University in the Tacoma Dome in Tacoma, Washington. Quarterback Tracy Ham threw for 419 yards and rushed for another 90 to overcome a 28-6 deficit.

1986 - The Eagles returned to Tacoma to defeat the Arkansas State Indians. Tracy Ham earned 486 rushing and passing yards and three touchdowns.

1989 - In Erk Russell's final game, the Eagles defeated Stephen F. Austin in Statesboro, Georgia, in front of 25,725 fans to complete a perfect 15-0 season. Quarterback Raymond Gross engineered 17 fourth-quarter points, including a game-winning field goal with 1:41 remaining in the game.

1990 - Tim Stowers' Eagles win their fourth national championship vs. Nevada

1999 - Paul Johnson won his first national championship in Chattanooga, Tennessee, vs. Youngstown State in Jim Tressel's last national championship game as a Penguin (Jim Tressel's last game as a Penguin was against the Richmond Spiders in the playoffs in 2000). Adrian Peterson ran for a championship game record 247 yards on 25 carries and scored three touchdowns.

2000 - The Eagles defeated the Montana Grizzlies to win their sixth and final FCS championship.

National runners-up
1988 - The Eagles lost to Furman University in Pocatello, Idaho.

1998 - In Paul Johnson's first national championship game, the Eagles lost to UMass.

Conference Championships
1993 - Southern Conference
1997 - Southern Conference
1998 - Southern Conference
1999 - Southern Conference
2000 - Southern Conference
2001 - Southern Conference
2002 - Southern Conference
2004 - Southern Conference
2011 - Southern Conference
2012 - Southern Conference
2014 - Sun Belt Conference

Walter Payton Award
Georgia Southern is one of five schools to have multiple Walter Payton Award winners honoring the top offensive player in the Football Championships Subdivision. Running Back Adrian Peterson won the award in 1999 and quarterback Jayson Foster won it in 2007.

Eddie Robinson Award
Two Georgia Southern coaches have won the Eddie Robinson Award winners honoring the top coach in Division I-FCS. Erk Russell won it in 1989 and Paul Johnson in 1998.

Where are the ******* Mods to get rid of this Slum Belt trash?

(04-09-2015 06:27 PM)wh49er Wrote:  Where are the ******* Mods to get rid of this Slum Belt trash?

Agreed

I think teams are avoiding us, and I don't blame them.

Who wants to play a team most of your fans have never heard of that has a crazy rushing offense and has the athletes to play with the best of the G5? If I was a fan of a CUSA, MW, or AAC team I wouldn't want to play us, either.

(04-09-2015 06:29 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I think teams are avoiding us, and I don't blame them.

Who wants to play a team most of your fans have never heard of that has a crazy rushing offense and has the athletes to play with the best of the G5? If I was a fan of a CUSA, MW, or AAC team I wouldn't want to play us, either.

We just don't want our players to contract an airborne disease in that shithole. No hard feelings.

(04-09-2015 06:27 PM)wh49er Wrote:  Where are the ******* Mods to get rid of this Slum Belt trash?

Two ADs calling out a conference is certainly an interesting off season topic worth a discussion.

(04-09-2015 06:46 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 06:27 PM)wh49er Wrote:  Where are the ******* Mods to get rid of this Slum Belt trash?

Two ADs calling out a conference is certainly an interesting off season topic worth a discussion.

Have at it

http://csnbbs.com/thread-734214.html

(04-09-2015 06:29 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I think teams are avoiding us, and I don't blame them.

Who wants to play a team most of your fans have never heard of that has a crazy rushing offense and has the athletes to play with the best of the G5? If I was a fan of a CUSA, MW, or AAC team I wouldn't want to play us, either.

Well, I guess that just leaves you playing with yourselves.

(04-09-2015 06:57 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 06:29 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I think teams are avoiding us, and I don't blame them.

Who wants to play a team most of your fans have never heard of that has a crazy rushing offense and has the athletes to play with the best of the G5? If I was a fan of a CUSA, MW, or AAC team I wouldn't want to play us, either.

Well, I guess that just leaves you playing with yourselves.

Alright SMACKBOARD!

They'd have to find it first

(04-09-2015 05:38 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 04:58 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-09-2015 04:50 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  The big misconception with scheduling is everyone thinks an AD can waive a magic wand and schedule any team in the country whenever they want.

It just looks bad on CUSA when the undefeated Sun Belt champ's AD calls out CUSA saying your top teams are scared to play us for fear of losing. That is basically what he is saying and in the new system where the committee decides the G5 rep, it makes Ga Southern look good.

Marshall has never had a history of signing games with Sun Belt schools. Since Marshall has moved up we have signed exactly 2 series with Sun Belt schools and only one contract was fulfilled. We signed a 2-1 with Troy when they 1st moved up. And we had a series that was signed with WKU for 17 and 18 that was voided after WKU joined CUSA.

Ive already ask Mike Hamrick, Marshall's AD and he has said he has no plans to play Appy or GA Southern just because they were in the SoCon.

And before you get into the "But there is history there". Maybe with Appy there is a lil since Marshall and Appy were in the same conference from 78-96. And well Appy was Marshall's 1st SoCon win. But GSU there really isn't a history. Marshall and GA Southern have played 6 times and Marshall is 4-2 against the Eagles, 4-0 while they were in the SonCon and Marshall outscored GA Southern 113-30 in those 4 games.

You will continue to see Marshall in series with Ohio, Miami OH (Little Miami), Akron and others. The one out of the MAC Id like to see a series with is Toledo.

Marshall had a heck of a team when we joined the SoCon in 92 and we had hit a short rough patch at that time. With that said, when Marshall and Ga Southern were both FCS, we did manage to win 4 national titles to Marshall's 2 so that takes the sting out of the "rough patch" against Marshall.

How many SunBelt AD's does it take to screw in a lightbulb?


3. 1 to do it and 2 to cry about it.