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Conference Prediction Thread since Athlon and SN are out.
Since the magazines have started to come out I figured it was time we start arguing over whose better on paper and in our minds. Losses in parenthesis.

East

UCF 6-2 (UH, Cincy)
East Carolina 6-2 (Navy, UCF)
Cincy 5-3 (Memphis, UH, East Carolina)
Temple 4-4 (Cincy, UCF, East Carolina, Memphis)
USF 2-6 (Memphis, Navy, East Carolina, Temple, Cincy, UCF)
UCONN 1-7 (Navy, UCF, USF, Cincy, ECU, UH, Temple)

West

Navy 6-2 (SMU, Tulsa)
Memphis 6-2 (Navy, SMU)
Houston 5-3 (Tulane, Memphis, Navy)
Tulane 4-4 (UCF, Temple, Navy, Memphis)
SMU 2-6 (East Carolina, UH, USF, Temple, Tulane, Memphis)
Tulsa 1-7 (UH, East Carolina, Memphis, SMU, UCF, Cincy, Tulane)


The East is between Cincy and UCF, but East Carolina could throw a wrench in things. (Call me a homer if you like, but avoiding the WTF games will put East Carolina in the hunt.)

The West is a little easier to figure. Memphis is the strongest team, but I'm high on Navy and think the edge out Memphis who might be looking ahead to UH.
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RE: Conference Prediction Thread since Athlon and SN are out.
Looks fine, but it looks like you basically just copied and pasted standings from last year. Who are your surprise teams and who are your teams that did well last year that will fall down some. You can't tell me that everyone will do almost exactly the same as they did last year.
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RE: Conference Prediction Thread since Athlon and SN are out.
East
1. Cincinnati
2. UCF
3. Temple
4. ECU
5. UConn
6. USF

West
1. Navy
2. Houston
3. Memphis
4. Tulsa
5. SMU
6. Tulane
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RE: Conference Prediction Thread since Athlon and SN are out.
(06-02-2015 03:30 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  East
1. Cincinnati
2. UCF
3. Temple
4. ECU
5. UConn
6. USF

West
1. Navy
2. Houston
3. Memphis
4. Tulsa
5. SMU
6. Tulane

Curious to what your rationale for having USF behind UConn, seeing a) USF defeated UConn last year, b) USF finished with a better record than UConn, and c) USF far outrecruited UConn in the off season. Gut feeling or some other reason?
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RE: Conference Prediction Thread since Athlon and SN are out.
(06-02-2015 03:33 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(06-02-2015 03:30 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  East
1. Cincinnati
2. UCF
3. Temple
4. ECU
5. UConn
6. USF

West
1. Navy
2. Houston
3. Memphis
4. Tulsa
5. SMU
6. Tulane

Curious to what your rationale for having USF behind UConn, seeing a) USF defeated UConn last year, b) USF finished with a better record than UConn, and c) USF far outrecruited UConn in the off season. Gut feeling or some other reason?

Honestly, just a gut feeling that UConn will improve under their 2nd year coach.
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RE: Conference Prediction Thread since Athlon and SN are out.
OK here's mine with some surprises:

East
1. Cincinnati
2. UCF
3. USF - Surprise pick to break into top 3. Taggart brought in too much talent not to. Flowers athleticism allows him to run wild. Next Grothe/Daniels
4. Temple
5. ECU
6. UConn


West
1. Navy
2. Houston
3. Memphis
4. SMU - surprise pick to challenge top 3. I have no rationale, I just think they'll turn around quick.
5. Tulane
6. Tulsa
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RE: Conference Prediction Thread since Athlon and SN are out.
(06-02-2015 03:21 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Looks fine, but it looks like you basically just copied and pasted standings from last year. Who are your surprise teams and who are your teams that did well last year that will fall down some. You can't tell me that everyone will do almost exactly the same as they did last year.

Actually I just sat down and worked it out using the helmet schedule for 2015. I didn't even look at last years standings.

I'll start with the new guys, Navy. I like them, and for a good portion of the current teams, defending their triple option will be something new. Navy should have a pretty easy time with the bottom half of the conference, and if a team isn't quick with adjustments they can make you look pretty stupid. I think they overachieve, but lose a couple of head scratchers to bad teams, though I could easily see them losing the Memphis game and beating SMU.

In the rest of the West there just aren't any surprises to be seen. Memphis is the most well rounded team and UH is right behind them. Tulsa and SMU will be bad again, but with a few offensive outbursts will beat someone they shouldn't (in my predictions, both manage to beat Navy as the season draws to a close).

The East is a little more open, Cincy is the clear leader on paper, but I think UCF is a little underestimated as well. Everybody seems high on temple but the schedule doesn't do them any favors with them playing at Cincy, at East Carolina, and UCF at home right before the East Carolina game.

One third of the conference is pretty damn bad right now. SMU in the West and USF in the East stand the best chance at rapid improvement; UCONN and Tulsa just appear lost. At this point hte AAC is what it is, six quality teams and, two headed in the right direction, and four that need some serious improvement.
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RE: Conference Prediction Thread since Athlon and SN are out.
How is Tulsa being put at the bottom by all of these different people. We have a better returning core than SMU and our dissappointing team from last season still beat Tulane and played tough versus Temple and USF
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RE: Conference Prediction Thread since Athlon and SN are out.
I look for Tulsa, SMU and Tulane to all struggle next season.
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RE: Conference Prediction Thread since Athlon and SN are out.
AAC East
1- Cincinnati (bowl)
2-Temple (bowl)
3-UCF (bowl)
4-ECU (bowl)
5-USF
6-UConn

AAC West
1-Memphis (bowl)
2-Navy (bowl)
3-Houston (bowl)
4-Tulsa
5-SMU
6-Tulane

Again, this year, the conference will be solid at the top. Memphis, UC, and Temple will likely have 9+ wins, UCF, Navy, and ECU should all have at least 7+ wins, and Houston should get at least bowl-eligible.

But the bottom of the conference will be horrid. I have no confidence in Taggart, Curtis Johnson, or Bob Diaco; though at least Diaco has an excuse in that he is still trying to play "Humpty Dumpty" and put UConn back together again. Tulsa, SMU, and Houston all have first-year, first time Head Coaches...at least Houston returns some talent to work with. But I think that Tulane, SMU, and UConn are all looking at the potential of finishing with < 3 wins. Tulsa and USF are probably looking at <5 wins...and a couple of those will be because they (Tulsa and USF) get to play Tulane, SMU, and UConn. This bodes the best for Tulsa, being out west.

Them's my guesses.
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Re: RE: Conference Prediction Thread since Athlon and SN are out.
(06-02-2015 05:02 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  How is Tulsa being put at the bottom by all of these different people. We have a better returning core than SMU and our dissappointing team from last season still beat Tulane and played tough versus Temple and USF

I guess they feel like Tulsa still has quite a gap to close. I certainly do, and when looking at the schedules a lot of the close competition games fall more favorable for their opponents.
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RE: Conference Prediction Thread since Athlon and SN are out.
While USF has a QB question I will say we will be much improved because of two main reasons
1. Defense will be among best in AAC there is talent and depth
2. Offense there is much more talent all around to support the QB plus the new offensive style is what Flowers was used to in HS and fits the talent of both Flowers,Bench and our freshmen recruit.
I'm not saying we will win the conference this year but I think this will be a much more dangerous team that many imagine and 6-6 is very doable
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RE: Conference Prediction Thread since Athlon and SN are out.
ill be 100% shocked if it ended up like this

ucf is a defensive team lost everyone on defense and the DC
ecu is an offensive team lost its qb and top 2 wr and rb from a pass happy offense ad its OC

and its weird to say this but navy is the only team without question marks going in on the west and the only team i feel comfortable saying is for sure above average, but at the same time i honestly dont see them winning the west..i think its between memphis and houston

(06-02-2015 02:49 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Since the magazines have started to come out I figured it was time we start arguing over whose better on paper and in our minds. Losses in parenthesis.

East

UCF 6-2 (UH, Cincy)
East Carolina 6-2 (Navy, UCF)
Cincy 5-3 (Memphis, UH, East Carolina)
Temple 4-4 (Cincy, UCF, East Carolina, Memphis)
USF 2-6 (Memphis, Navy, East Carolina, Temple, Cincy, UCF)
UCONN 1-7 (Navy, UCF, USF, Cincy, ECU, UH, Temple)

West

Navy 6-2 (SMU, Tulsa)
Memphis 6-2 (Navy, SMU)
Houston 5-3 (Tulane, Memphis, Navy)
Tulane 4-4 (UCF, Temple, Navy, Memphis)
SMU 2-6 (East Carolina, UH, USF, Temple, Tulane, Memphis)
Tulsa 1-7 (UH, East Carolina, Memphis, SMU, UCF, Cincy, Tulane)


The East is between Cincy and UCF, but East Carolina could throw a wrench in things. (Call me a homer if you like, but avoiding the WTF games will put East Carolina in the hunt.)

The West is a little easier to figure. Memphis is the strongest team, but I'm high on Navy and think the edge out Memphis who might be looking ahead to UH.
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(06-02-2015 06:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  ill be 100% shocked if it ended up like this

ucf is a defensive team lost everyone on defense and the DC
ecu is an offensive team lost its qb and top 2 wr and rb from a pass happy offense ad its OC

and its weird to say this but navy is the only team without question marks going in on the west and the only team i feel comfortable saying is for sure above average, but at the same time i honestly dont see them winning the west..i think its between memphis and houston

(06-02-2015 02:49 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Since the magazines have started to come out I figured it was time we start arguing over whose better on paper and in our minds. Losses in parenthesis.

East

UCF 6-2 (UH, Cincy)
East Carolina 6-2 (Navy, UCF)
Cincy 5-3 (Memphis, UH, East Carolina)
Temple 4-4 (Cincy, UCF, East Carolina, Memphis)
USF 2-6 (Memphis, Navy, East Carolina, Temple, Cincy, UCF)
UCONN 1-7 (Navy, UCF, USF, Cincy, ECU, UH, Temple)

West

Navy 6-2 (SMU, Tulsa)
Memphis 6-2 (Navy, SMU)
Houston 5-3 (Tulane, Memphis, Navy)
Tulane 4-4 (UCF, Temple, Navy, Memphis)
SMU 2-6 (East Carolina, UH, USF, Temple, Tulane, Memphis)
Tulsa 1-7 (UH, East Carolina, Memphis, SMU, UCF, Cincy, Tulane)


The East is between Cincy and UCF, but East Carolina could throw a wrench in things. (Call me a homer if you like, but avoiding the WTF games will put East Carolina in the hunt.)

The West is a little easier to figure. Memphis is the strongest team, but I'm high on Navy and think the edge out Memphis who might be looking ahead to UH.

Even with the losses for East Carolina and UCF, i feel like both teams are better than Temple. That really makes it a 3 horse race in the east. I think Cincy splits with East Carolina and UCF, but has a tougher draw on thw western teams.
Navy is my pick in the west for precisely the reason you stated, they have the least questions. Memphis could beat Navy, but I also see Memphis slipping up even if they get by Navy.
Half the conference has a shot at winning it. I wouldn't be surprised if any of the top 3 in either division played in the championship game.
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(06-02-2015 06:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  ill be 100% shocked if it ended up like this

ucf is a defensive team lost everyone on defense and the DC
ecu is an offensive team lost its qb and top 2 wr and rb from a pass happy offense ad its OC

and its weird to say this but navy is the only team without question marks going in on the west and the only team i feel comfortable saying is for sure above average, but at the same time i honestly dont see them winning the west..i think its between memphis and houston

(06-02-2015 02:49 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Since the magazines have started to come out I figured it was time we start arguing over whose better on paper and in our minds. Losses in parenthesis.

East

UCF 6-2 (UH, Cincy)
East Carolina 6-2 (Navy, UCF)
Cincy 5-3 (Memphis, UH, East Carolina)
Temple 4-4 (Cincy, UCF, East Carolina, Memphis)
USF 2-6 (Memphis, Navy, East Carolina, Temple, Cincy, UCF)
UCONN 1-7 (Navy, UCF, USF, Cincy, ECU, UH, Temple)

West

Navy 6-2 (SMU, Tulsa)
Memphis 6-2 (Navy, SMU)
Houston 5-3 (Tulane, Memphis, Navy)
Tulane 4-4 (UCF, Temple, Navy, Memphis)
SMU 2-6 (East Carolina, UH, USF, Temple, Tulane, Memphis)
Tulsa 1-7 (UH, East Carolina, Memphis, SMU, UCF, Cincy, Tulane)


The East is between Cincy and UCF, but East Carolina could throw a wrench in things. (Call me a homer if you like, but avoiding the WTF games will put East Carolina in the hunt.)

The West is a little easier to figure. Memphis is the strongest team, but I'm high on Navy and think the edge out Memphis who might be looking ahead to UH.

My only point of contention: UCF has never had a bad defense under O'Leary (except maybe 2004).

We very much reload, rather than rebuild, on defense.

Offense is a different matter. Don't forget Charlie Taafe also retired. We're breaking in two coordinators, though Bresnahan has history with O'Leary (and O'Leary is the real DC), and Keys has been in the program for years.
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I will play, but I am not doing losses.
East

Cincinnati - They get a defense to match their offense. I am thinkin access bowl.
Temple - Talent matures and they surprise some teams overlooking them.
UCF - Starts slow but around the middle of the season turns it on.
USF - Those recruiting rankings finally pay off. Bulls get six wins for the season.
East Carolina - As a Houston fan, I can confirm that when you lose your top QB and top wide receivers, there is going to be some drop off.
UCONN - They will be improved, but the rest of the conference is improved as well.

West

Navy - Since for some reason they seem to be the sexy choice
Houston - This team has not lost a game by more than a touchdown in conference play with an inept coach. To think with Herman, we will not be a solid team is ludicrous.
Memphis - If the defense is reloading like some of Memphis fans claim, this is my choice to win the west.
Tulsa - I think the defense gets a pulse and holds a few teams just enough for Tulsa to outscore some people.
SMU - The problem was coaching last year not talent. I expect to see significant improvement in SMU's on the field performance. It might be too soon for it to turn into wins, but I expect some really good games from SMU next season.
Tulane - I feel they are stagnant.
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(06-02-2015 05:02 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  How is Tulsa being put at the bottom by all of these different people. We have a better returning core than SMU and our dissappointing team from last season still beat Tulane and played tough versus Temple and USF

Because you're Tulsa...

I may need to come up there for a football game, you aren't that far away. So what, you guys play in a municipal park or what? Is there a concession stand? I assume I need to bring a lawn chair?
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Memphis is gonna suck. We are turrible. Don't practice for us
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(06-03-2015 08:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Memphis is gonna suck. We are turrible. Don't practice for us

agreed
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I am concerned about UH because we have some big holes to fill especially in the middle of the defense. Mbu, Oliphant, and Matthews are 3 big productive players to replace and add a new system and staff to it and I could see some struggles especially against the run and we weren't a great run defense to begin with.

I also wonder if we can score enough points especially if the defense struggles. The offensive line is still a question and I think Herman will need a couple classes to really get things turned in the right direction.
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