(06-25-2015 11:33 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:07 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 09:45 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 09:32 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 09:21 AM)pesik Wrote:  you play memphis, uconn, cincy, temple in basketball but still play in 4k arena and only do 2k attendace

and texas is the only team in the big 12 that would even touch 50k no one else would be remotely close... im curious the other 5 you think woul touch 50k, oklahoma is big enough to bring 50k to superdome so far away from norman

In our current state, no way we get a B12 invite. However the thought process is we get a few years to cash in on our recent investments, improve, then get a shot at an invite. NOLA folks are notoriously loyal and would come out for the local university if we gave them a winning product. When we were playing compelling schedules in the past, people showed up to the Dome despite an iffy product. NOLA fits the B12 makeup better than the larger Florida schools/cities. As been explained in other reports, LA is the only big time recruiting state with only one P5 school. Look, if Tulane wasn't in NOLA, we would have no shot but conferences want this city for recruiting and to provide a destination for fans. Nevermind the possibility of hosting their championship game in the Dome each year. Add in AAU and there is something there, but again we would have to right the ship to at least Rutgers type levels. The point is that the initial re-action is to laugh at Tulane ot a major conference but the people making the decisions are not laughing.

Cool story bro!

Cool commuter school bro!

Lol, sorry bout hitting that nerve. You gotta admit that Tulane to the B-12 is about the funniest thing you've heard on these boards in a long time if you take off your blue and green glasses.

I wear purple and gold glasses, but when you take off your black and gold glasses you are going to see that Tulane to the B12 is not far fetched. Actually that addition makes more sense than Cincinnati or UCF to the B12 for a whole lot of reason that people have mentioned on this board before.

(06-25-2015 11:39 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  Tulane to the Big 12 isn't a joke, it's a long shot, but it's not a joke.

They are about on the same level as USF and UConn when it comes to their chances.

Possible, but very unlikely.

So your list is >

Houston
Cincinnati
Memphis
UCF
ECU
USF
UConn
Tulane

No SMU?

(06-25-2015 11:33 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:07 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 09:45 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 09:32 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 09:21 AM)pesik Wrote:  you play memphis, uconn, cincy, temple in basketball but still play in 4k arena and only do 2k attendace

and texas is the only team in the big 12 that would even touch 50k no one else would be remotely close... im curious the other 5 you think woul touch 50k, oklahoma is big enough to bring 50k to superdome so far away from norman

In our current state, no way we get a B12 invite. However the thought process is we get a few years to cash in on our recent investments, improve, then get a shot at an invite. NOLA folks are notoriously loyal and would come out for the local university if we gave them a winning product. When we were playing compelling schedules in the past, people showed up to the Dome despite an iffy product. NOLA fits the B12 makeup better than the larger Florida schools/cities. As been explained in other reports, LA is the only big time recruiting state with only one P5 school. Look, if Tulane wasn't in NOLA, we would have no shot but conferences want this city for recruiting and to provide a destination for fans. Nevermind the possibility of hosting their championship game in the Dome each year. Add in AAU and there is something there, but again we would have to right the ship to at least Rutgers type levels. The point is that the initial re-action is to laugh at Tulane ot a major conference but the people making the decisions are not laughing.

Cool story bro!

Cool commuter school bro!

Lol, sorry bout hitting that nerve. You gotta admit that Tulane to the B-12 is about the funniest thing you've heard on these boards in a long time if you take off your blue and green glasses.

If you think that is true, then you don't understand the process. Just how comical would Rurgers to the B10 be a few years ago?

(06-25-2015 11:49 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:39 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  Tulane to the Big 12 isn't a joke, it's a long shot, but it's not a joke.

They are about on the same level as USF and UConn when it comes to their chances.

Possible, but very unlikely.

So your list is >

Houston
Cincinnati
Memphis
UCF
ECU
USF
UConn
Tulane

No SMU?

With all due respect to their fanbase and results on the field, I just can't see any scenario where ECU gets a call up to the majors. Amazing football program just in too crowded of an area, too small a city, too far from the B12 and not enough recruiting value/brand/academics. Again, this is not to disrespect ECU at all.

(06-25-2015 11:49 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:39 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  Tulane to the Big 12 isn't a joke, it's a long shot, but it's not a joke.

They are about on the same level as USF and UConn when it comes to their chances.

Possible, but very unlikely.

So your list is >

Houston
Cincinnati
Memphis
UCF
ECU
USF
UConn
Tulane

No SMU?

No. My list is the original 5 I posted.

I'd be shocked if anyone outside of those 5 got into the Big 12.

(06-25-2015 10:48 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 10:46 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  When UConn gets their football team back to what it used to be they'll be even more appealing

You mean getting back to being average?

This average team beat you guys and played ECU really tough causing them to lose reputation points

(06-25-2015 11:10 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(06-24-2015 09:17 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  ECU will be announcing in the coming weeks plans to complete club and loge seat complex on south side of Dowdy Ficklen Stadium according to new board minutes. Have heard they're aiming for a Cincy/Va Tech look.

Is this legit?

Si, they did a survey a short while ago gauging fan interest in a variety of amenities that would accompany the southside presser reno.

The Huskies have talented good athletes on their football team my friends I've been saying that years

(06-25-2015 11:06 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Comparing college sports fandom between Buffalo and NOLA is absurd, never mind the recruiting differences. Not to mention Buffalo has no brand or history. As I said, people can laugh all they want but TU has been looked at by the B12 despite absolutely putrid results on the field. Tulane got a full invite to the AAC before ECU and Tulsa, despite those schools having much more success. No school has squandered their competitive advantages more than Tulane, but the fact remains NOLA is a more compelling sell to the B12 then any other of the existing candidates. It just is, if only we could get our head out of our ass.

what recruiting advantage does tulane bring??? literally zero aac teams are touching touted LA recruits including tulane...tulane in the big 12 will do 10x more for tulane recruiting than the other way around....having tulane in your league doesnt do anything for the touted LA guys anymore than that it already does...

no one in the big 12 has ever played with a LA team and they have done quite fine..

and tulane was in the se 60years ago..literally almost everyone who saw tulane play in the sec is dead.... but even in the sec tulane was a bottom feeder most years...

and its not a fact NOLA is the most compelling sell, you are literally the 6th or 7th largest market in the league (10th among mwc/aac)..you have the second smallest fanbase...the worst athletic resume, the second smallest athletic budget ..literally just having you in the aac was a huge perception hit, but the big 12 is compelled by it?

you have a decent location, a nice academic rep and played in a good league 6years ago..but that doesnt make you a compelling add

by your definition university of chicago (Chicago, big 10 founder, aau) is the hottest add out there..or upenn or Buffalo (which is big enough to have an nfl team and next to Toronto)

Michael Jackson died on this day, 6 years ago.

(06-25-2015 11:54 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  With all due respect to their fanbase and results on the field, I just can't see any scenario where ECU gets a call up to the majors. Amazing football program just in too crowded of an area, too small a city, too far from the B12 and not enough recruiting value/brand/academics.

I don't either. On the other hand an obvious like BYU seems absent from these lists.

(06-25-2015 10:44 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  West Virginia Mountaineers want UConn and Cincinnati my friends and everybody knows it, I give it after next year. This 4 playoff is going to cause more expansion after next season when everybody's pissed off

UCONN???
That's funny right there... I don't care where youre from.. that's funny!

(06-25-2015 11:54 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:49 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:39 AM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  Tulane to the Big 12 isn't a joke, it's a long shot, but it's not a joke.

They are about on the same level as USF and UConn when it comes to their chances.

Possible, but very unlikely.

So your list is >

Houston
Cincinnati
Memphis
UCF
ECU
USF
UConn
Tulane

No SMU?

With all due respect to their fanbase and results on the field, I just can't see any scenario where ECU gets a call up to the majors. Amzing football program just in too crowded of an area, too small a city, too far from the B12 and not enough recruiting value.

It may be long odds, but it is a testament to ECU that they average 45k fans surrounded by half the ACC, USC and UT. Not too mention the plethora of other football playing schools near by. NC is plenty big enough and without any major football program. Unlike Memphis, Florida, Tenn, Louisiana or Ohio. Folks love to tout potential but omit that NC is a large state and amazingly still ripe for the taking if one of the football programs can get its sh*t together. The Big 12 vs ECU sans ISU and KU are equal to anything the ACC could hope for on a weekly basis. That just isn't the case for any other AAC to B12 hopeful.

(06-25-2015 11:49 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:33 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:07 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 09:45 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 09:32 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  In our current state, no way we get a B12 invite. However the thought process is we get a few years to cash in on our recent investments, improve, then get a shot at an invite. NOLA folks are notoriously loyal and would come out for the local university if we gave them a winning product. When we were playing compelling schedules in the past, people showed up to the Dome despite an iffy product. NOLA fits the B12 makeup better than the larger Florida schools/cities. As been explained in other reports, LA is the only big time recruiting state with only one P5 school. Look, if Tulane wasn't in NOLA, we would have no shot but conferences want this city for recruiting and to provide a destination for fans. Nevermind the possibility of hosting their championship game in the Dome each year. Add in AAU and there is something there, but again we would have to right the ship to at least Rutgers type levels. The point is that the initial re-action is to laugh at Tulane ot a major conference but the people making the decisions are not laughing.

Cool story bro!

Cool commuter school bro!

Lol, sorry bout hitting that nerve. You gotta admit that Tulane to the B-12 is about the funniest thing you've heard on these boards in a long time if you take off your blue and green glasses.

I wear purple and gold glasses, but when you take off your black and gold glasses you are going to see that Tulane to the B12 is not far fetched. Actually that addition makes more sense than Cincinnati or UCF to the B12 for a whole lot of reason that people have mentioned on this board before.

I quess that's why they were added before UCF to the AAC, and when they were added the competitive perception of the AAC took a hit. A whole lot more people would laugh at the notion of Tulane to the b-12 before either UC, or UCF. Either way you believe what you want to believe with or without your glasses on or off, you are unquestionably in the minority in your beliefs however.

(06-25-2015 11:53 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  If you think that is true, then you don't understand the process. Just how comical would Rurgers to the B10 be a few years ago?

rutges was doing 50k attendance on a 6-6 team in the aaac, with the leagues top 2 recruiting classes, as the state flagship on a school with 45k attendance and 3rd biggest athletic budget (louisville was still in the AAC)...

big 10 was laughable because they were never good at sports (top 25 level in anything) ...but they were atleast decent and a short drive to new york (#1 market)....

tulane isnt any of those things

(06-25-2015 10:44 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  West Virginia Mountaineers want UConn and Cincinnati my friends and everybody knows it, I give it after next year. This 4 playoff is going to cause more expansion after next season when everybody's pissed off

When push comes to shove it's highly unlikely that either UT or OU will give a damn want WVU wants.

(06-25-2015 12:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:06 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Comparing college sports fandom between Buffalo and NOLA is absurd, never mind the recruiting differences. Not to mention Buffalo has no brand or history. As I said, people can laugh all they want but TU has been looked at by the B12 despite absolutely putrid results on the field. Tulane got a full invite to the AAC before ECU and Tulsa, despite those schools having much more success. No school has squandered their competitive advantages more than Tulane, but the fact remains NOLA is a more compelling sell to the B12 then any other of the existing candidates. It just is, if only we could get our head out of our ass.

what recruiting advantage does tulane bring??? literally zero aac teams are touching touted LA recruits including tulane...tulane in the big 12 will do 10x more for tulane recruiting than the other way around....having tulane in your league doesnt do anything for the touted LA guys anymore than that it already does...

no one in the big 12 has ever played with a LA team and they have done quite fine..

and tulane was in the se 60years ago..literally almost everyone who saw tulane play in the sec is dead.... but even in the sec tulane was a bottom feeder most years...

and its not a fact NOLA is the most compelling sell, you are literally the 6th or 7th largest market in the league (10th among mwc/aac)..you have the second smallest fanbase...the worst athletic resume, the second smallest athletic budget ..literally just having you in the aac was a huge perception hit, but the big 12 is compelled by it?

you have a decent location, a nice academic rep and played in a good league 6years ago..but that doesnt make you a compelling add

by your definition university of chicago (Chicago, big 10 founder, aau) is the hottest add out there..or upenn or Buffalo (which is big enough to have an nfl team and next to Toronto)

The last paragraph is just absurd and a strawman.

It not just about market but % of fan interest. The B12 would love to get a bigger presence in LA and as I said no other big time recruiting area has one P5. Our fanbase is decimated cause of mismanagement by our admin., that absolutely has to change. When we play decent FBall and/or a compelling schedules, people show up.
History matters for southern FBall, academics matter for presidents, AAU matters for presidents and NOLA matters for other fans and is a centerpiece NCAA city.

You can dismiss it all you like, but it is not it is far less far fetched than people realize. I have said my peace.

(06-25-2015 12:14 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:53 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  If you think that is true, then you don't understand the process. Just how comical would Rurgers to the B10 be a few years ago?

rutges was doing 50k attendance on a 6-6 team in the aaac, with the leagues top 2 recruiting classes, as the state flagship on a school with 45k attendance and 3rd biggest athletic budget (louisville was still in the AAC)...

big 10 was laughable because they were never good at sports (top 25 level in anything) ...but they were atleast decent and a short drive to new york (#1 market)....

tulane isnt any of those things

This. I have seen a few different people try to compare Rutgers and Tulane recently and the logic is completely flawed.

In addition to the things you mentioned Rutgers is the flagship university for the state of New Jersey. It has 60K students, 350K living alums and had the huge NY/NJ market to give to the BTN. Tulane has 13K students, less than 100K living alums and the New Orleans TV market is ranked in the 50s.

(06-25-2015 11:57 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 10:48 AM)SteveUCF19 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 10:46 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  When UConn gets their football team back to what it used to be they'll be even more appealing

You mean getting back to being average?

This average team beat you guys and played ECU really tough causing them to lose reputation points

You didn't really play us tough. We just didn't blow you out. Which we didn't blow anyone out except UNC

(06-25-2015 11:53 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:33 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:07 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 09:45 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 09:32 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  In our current state, no way we get a B12 invite. However the thought process is we get a few years to cash in on our recent investments, improve, then get a shot at an invite. NOLA folks are notoriously loyal and would come out for the local university if we gave them a winning product. When we were playing compelling schedules in the past, people showed up to the Dome despite an iffy product. NOLA fits the B12 makeup better than the larger Florida schools/cities. As been explained in other reports, LA is the only big time recruiting state with only one P5 school. Look, if Tulane wasn't in NOLA, we would have no shot but conferences want this city for recruiting and to provide a destination for fans. Nevermind the possibility of hosting their championship game in the Dome each year. Add in AAU and there is something there, but again we would have to right the ship to at least Rutgers type levels. The point is that the initial re-action is to laugh at Tulane ot a major conference but the people making the decisions are not laughing.

Cool story bro!

Cool commuter school bro!

Lol, sorry bout hitting that nerve. You gotta admit that Tulane to the B-12 is about the funniest thing you've heard on these boards in a long time if you take off your blue and green glasses.

If you think that is true, then you don't understand the process. Just how comical would Rurgers to the B10 be a few years ago?

Oh I think I have a good grasp of the "process" and why Rutgers was added to the B1G. Rutgers was added to the B1G primarily for their market, it certainly wasn't for their on field performance. To those ends Orlando (UCF) occupies the 18th largest TV market, UC occupies the 36th largest market, and Tulane (NOLA) occupies the 51st largest market. Advantage UCF and UC. As far as recruiting between 2008-2013 Florida produced and annual average of 320 FBS football players, La. Over the same period averaged 83. Advantage UCF. Size of school, facilities, all favor UCF and UC over Tulane. In fact the only advantage I can see involving Tulane over either UC or UCF is academics. Last I heard Football was driving the realignment bus, not academics, therefore the totality of circumstances vastly favor either UC or UCF to the b-12 long before Tulane would be considered. Hell Tulane is an afterthought in their current conference (the AAC). Like it or not those are the facts.