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Eight 16 Team Conferences
Oklahoma and West Virginia are poached by the SEC.
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Mississippi State, LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, West Virginia, Oklahoma (16).

Texas and Kansas move on to the Big Ten.
Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Texas, Kansas (16)

Notre Dame must see that they have to join the ACC. They bring UConn with them.
Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Notre Dame, UConn (16)

Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech and BYU join the PAC.
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, BYU (16)

Baylor, TCU and Iowa State join the American Athletic Conference and bring Southern Miss and Old Dominion along.
Cincinnati, USF, UCF, Navy, Memphis, Houston, SMU, East Carolina, Tulane, Tulsa, Temple, Iowa State, Baylor, TCU, Southern Miss, Old Dominion (16)

Mountain West Conference expands.
Boise State, Colorado State, Air Force, Wyoming, San Diego State, New Mexico, Nevada, UNLV, Hawaii, Fresno State, San Jose State, Utah State, UTEP, Rice, UTSA, New Mexico State (16)

Conference USA expands.
Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Georgia State, Charlotte, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, North Texas, Texas State, Marshall, Louisiana Tech, UAB, Louisiana-Lafayette, Northern Illinois, UMass, Buffalo, Army (16)

MAC and Sun Belt merge.
Akron, Bowling Green, Ball State, Kent State, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan, Western Michigan, Miami (OH), Toledo, Ohio, Louisiana-Monroe, Troy, South Alabama, Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Arkansas State (16)

Idaho, you are banished to FCS. Scoot.

8 conferences
16 Team Playoff. 8 conference champions and 8 at-large selections.
All conferences have access to the playoffs.
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(07-21-2015 01:19 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  Oklahoma and West Virginia are poached by the SEC.
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Mississippi State, LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, West Virginia, Oklahoma (16).

Texas and Kansas move on to the Big Ten.
Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Texas, Kansas (16)

Notre Dame must see that they have to join the ACC. They bring UConn with them.
Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Notre Dame, UConn (16)

Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech and BYU join the PAC.
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, BYU (16)

Baylor, TCU and Iowa State join the American Athletic Conference and bring Southern Miss and Old Dominion along.
Cincinnati, USF, UCF, Navy, Memphis, Houston, SMU, East Carolina, Tulane, Tulsa, Temple, Iowa State, Baylor, TCU, Southern Miss, Old Dominion (16)

Mountain West Conference expands.
Boise State, Colorado State, Air Force, Wyoming, San Diego State, New Mexico, Nevada, UNLV, Hawaii, Fresno State, San Jose State, Utah State, UTEP, Rice, UTSA, New Mexico State (16)

Conference USA expands.
Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Georgia State, Charlotte, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, North Texas, Texas State, Marshall, Louisiana Tech, UAB, Louisiana-Lafayette, Northern Illinois, UMass, Buffalo, Army (16)

MAC and Sun Belt merge.
Akron, Bowling Green, Ball State, Kent State, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan, Western Michigan, Miami (OH), Toledo, Ohio, Louisiana-Monroe, Troy, South Alabama, Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Arkansas State (16)

Idaho, you are banished to FCS. Scoot.

8 conferences
16 Team Playoff. 8 conference champions and 8 at-large selections.
All conferences have access to the playoffs.
You're basically asking the P5s to give up their power...
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RE: Eight 16 Team Conferences
New Mexico and UTEP will be kicking and screaming if New Mexico State joins. They would rather have North Dakota State and bannished New Mexico State to the FCS.
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RE: Eight 16 Team Conferences
(07-21-2015 01:19 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  Oklahoma and West Virginia are poached by the SEC.
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Mississippi State, LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, West Virginia, Oklahoma (16).

Texas and Kansas move on to the Big Ten.
Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Texas, Kansas (16)

Notre Dame must see that they have to join the ACC. They bring UConn with them.
Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Notre Dame, UConn (16)

Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech and BYU join the PAC.
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, BYU (16)

Baylor, TCU and Iowa State join the American Athletic Conference and bring Southern Miss and Old Dominion along.
Cincinnati, USF, UCF, Navy, Memphis, Houston, SMU, East Carolina, Tulane, Tulsa, Temple, Iowa State, Baylor, TCU, Southern Miss, Old Dominion (16)

Mountain West Conference expands.
Boise State, Colorado State, Air Force, Wyoming, San Diego State, New Mexico, Nevada, UNLV, Hawaii, Fresno State, San Jose State, Utah State, UTEP, Rice, UTSA, New Mexico State (16)

Conference USA expands.
Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Georgia State, Charlotte, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, North Texas, Texas State, Marshall, Louisiana Tech, UAB, Louisiana-Lafayette, Northern Illinois, UMass, Buffalo, Army (16)

MAC and Sun Belt merge.
Akron, Bowling Green, Ball State, Kent State, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan, Western Michigan, Miami (OH), Toledo, Ohio, Louisiana-Monroe, Troy, South Alabama, Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Arkansas State (16)

Idaho, you are banished to FCS. Scoot.

8 conferences
16 Team Playoff. 8 conference champions and 8 at-large selections.
All conferences have access to the playoffs.


Can you list the reasons why "Notre Dame must see that they have to join the ACC"?? Thanks.
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RE: Eight 16 Team Conferences
(07-21-2015 02:22 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 01:19 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  Oklahoma and West Virginia are poached by the SEC.
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Mississippi State, LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, West Virginia, Oklahoma (16).

Texas and Kansas move on to the Big Ten.
Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Texas, Kansas (16)

Notre Dame must see that they have to join the ACC. They bring UConn with them.
Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Notre Dame, UConn (16)

Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech and BYU join the PAC.
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, BYU (16)

Baylor, TCU and Iowa State join the American Athletic Conference and bring Southern Miss and Old Dominion along.
Cincinnati, USF, UCF, Navy, Memphis, Houston, SMU, East Carolina, Tulane, Tulsa, Temple, Iowa State, Baylor, TCU, Southern Miss, Old Dominion (16)

Mountain West Conference expands.
Boise State, Colorado State, Air Force, Wyoming, San Diego State, New Mexico, Nevada, UNLV, Hawaii, Fresno State, San Jose State, Utah State, UTEP, Rice, UTSA, New Mexico State (16)

Conference USA expands.
Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Georgia State, Charlotte, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, North Texas, Texas State, Marshall, Louisiana Tech, UAB, Louisiana-Lafayette, Northern Illinois, UMass, Buffalo, Army (16)

MAC and Sun Belt merge.
Akron, Bowling Green, Ball State, Kent State, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan, Western Michigan, Miami (OH), Toledo, Ohio, Louisiana-Monroe, Troy, South Alabama, Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Arkansas State (16)

Idaho, you are banished to FCS. Scoot.

8 conferences
16 Team Playoff. 8 conference champions and 8 at-large selections.
All conferences have access to the playoffs.


Can you list the reasons why "Notre Dame must see that they have to join the ACC"?? Thanks.

1. I think Notre Dame fits in well with the ACC.
2. It fits my paradigm of "Eight 16 team conferences"
3. Alabama is in a conference. Texas is in a conference. Ohio State is in a conference.
4. Olympics are already in the ACC
5. Relations seem strained with the Big Ten
6. Don't really know....don't really care.
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RE: Eight 16 Team Conferences
When it comes to the G5s, they do Care about geographic location, unless said rare place brings in a boatload of money like BYU (TV, attendance). Merging Sun Belt & MAC left-overs wouldn't be so viable.

If location never mattered, I would say merge the best of G5 teams, make it one conference, and make it P5. Simple as that. But that's a big reason why it can't be that simple. Location, location, location.

Since we're playing fantasy-land where travel costs don't matter, a new G5->P5 Conference full of 14 teams:

- Boise State
- BYU
- Memphis
- East Carolina
- UCF
- Northern Illinois
- Marshall
- Cincinnati
- Toledo
- Colorado State
- Houston
- Navy
- Temple
- Air Force
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RE: Eight 16 Team Conferences
8x16 might be too many teams. I like an 8 conferences x 10 members. Something like:
East: Cuse/BC/Penn St/Notre Dame/Pitt/Rutgers/UConn/West Virginia/Virginia Tech/Louisville
ACC: Maryland/Duke/UNC/NC State/UVA/Clemson/Miami/Wake Forest/GA Tech/Florida St
SEC: Florida/Tenn/Bama/Auburn/Miss/Miss St/Kentucky/Georgia/LSU/Vandy
BIG: Michigan/Mich St/Indiana/Purdue/Ohio St/Minn/Wisconsin/Iowa/Illinois/Northwestern
Big 12: Texas/Texas A&M/Nebraska/Oklahoma/Okl St/Texas Tech/Baylor/Arkansas/Kansas/Kan St
PAC 10: Cal/Stanford/UCLA/USC/Arizona/Az St/Oregon/Oregon St/Washington/Wash St
Mideast: Cincy/South Carolina/Missouri/Memphis/ECU/USF/UCF/NIU/Army/Navy
Midwest: Boise St/Utah/Colorado/SDSU/Colorado St/TCU/Iowa St/UNLV/New Mexico/Air Force

Or something like this. Each conference plays a round robin. No conference championship. Winners plus 8 at-large go to 16-team playoff. Keeps lots of natural and historical rivalries.
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RE: Eight 16 Team Conferences
(07-21-2015 02:43 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 02:22 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 01:19 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  Oklahoma and West Virginia are poached by the SEC.
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Mississippi State, LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, West Virginia, Oklahoma (16).

Texas and Kansas move on to the Big Ten.
Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Texas, Kansas (16)

Notre Dame must see that they have to join the ACC. They bring UConn with them.
Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Notre Dame, UConn (16)

Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech and BYU join the PAC.
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, BYU (16)

Baylor, TCU and Iowa State join the American Athletic Conference and bring Southern Miss and Old Dominion along.
Cincinnati, USF, UCF, Navy, Memphis, Houston, SMU, East Carolina, Tulane, Tulsa, Temple, Iowa State, Baylor, TCU, Southern Miss, Old Dominion (16)

Mountain West Conference expands.
Boise State, Colorado State, Air Force, Wyoming, San Diego State, New Mexico, Nevada, UNLV, Hawaii, Fresno State, San Jose State, Utah State, UTEP, Rice, UTSA, New Mexico State (16)

Conference USA expands.
Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Georgia State, Charlotte, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, North Texas, Texas State, Marshall, Louisiana Tech, UAB, Louisiana-Lafayette, Northern Illinois, UMass, Buffalo, Army (16)

MAC and Sun Belt merge.
Akron, Bowling Green, Ball State, Kent State, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan, Western Michigan, Miami (OH), Toledo, Ohio, Louisiana-Monroe, Troy, South Alabama, Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Arkansas State (16)

Idaho, you are banished to FCS. Scoot.

8 conferences
16 Team Playoff. 8 conference champions and 8 at-large selections.
All conferences have access to the playoffs.


Can you list the reasons why "Notre Dame must see that they have to join the ACC"?? Thanks.

1. I think Notre Dame fits in well with the ACC.
2. It fits my paradigm of "Eight 16 team conferences"
3. Alabama is in a conference. Texas is in a conference. Ohio State is in a conference.
4. Olympics are already in the ACC
5. Relations seem strained with the Big Ten
6. Don't really know....don't really care.


So, nothing in it for Notre Dame, it just fits your imaginary concept. Thanks.
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(07-21-2015 02:57 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  When it comes to the G5s, they do Care about geographic location, unless said rare place brings in a boatload of money like BYU (TV, attendance). Merging Sun Belt & MAC left-overs wouldn't be so viable.

If location never mattered, I would say merge the best of G5 teams, make it one conference, and make it P5. Simple as that. But that's a big reason why it can't be that simple. Location, location, location.

Since we're playing fantasy-land where travel costs don't matter, a new G5->P5 Conference full of 14 teams:

- Boise State
- BYU
- Memphis
- East Carolina
- UCF
- Northern Illinois
- Marshall
- Cincinnati
- Toledo
- Colorado State
- Houston
- Navy
- Temple
- Air Force
Hmmm... but does it qualify for an instant access bowl bid? Possibly...
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OP:

That ACC is awful. The Big Ten and SEC improve significantly while the ACC stays basically the same.
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Eight 16 Team Conferences
Since no one will voluntarily take a demotion, we must wait for UAB to come back and get to 129 teams:

B1G invites Oklahoma and Kansas
SEC invites TCU and WVU
ACC invites Baylor and Texas
PAC invites Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, Kansas State
Notre Dame retains partial FBS independence

MWC invites BYU, UTEP, NMSU, Idaho
American invites UMass, ODU, NIU, Buffalo
C-USA invites Ohio, Toledo, Ball State, CMU
SBC and MAC merge, pick up Army
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(07-21-2015 04:10 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 02:43 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 02:22 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 01:19 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  Oklahoma and West Virginia are poached by the SEC.
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Mississippi State, LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, West Virginia, Oklahoma (16).

Texas and Kansas move on to the Big Ten.
Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Texas, Kansas (16)

Notre Dame must see that they have to join the ACC. They bring UConn with them.
Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Notre Dame, UConn (16)

Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech and BYU join the PAC.
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, BYU (16)

Baylor, TCU and Iowa State join the American Athletic Conference and bring Southern Miss and Old Dominion along.
Cincinnati, USF, UCF, Navy, Memphis, Houston, SMU, East Carolina, Tulane, Tulsa, Temple, Iowa State, Baylor, TCU, Southern Miss, Old Dominion (16)

Mountain West Conference expands.
Boise State, Colorado State, Air Force, Wyoming, San Diego State, New Mexico, Nevada, UNLV, Hawaii, Fresno State, San Jose State, Utah State, UTEP, Rice, UTSA, New Mexico State (16)

Conference USA expands.
Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Georgia State, Charlotte, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, North Texas, Texas State, Marshall, Louisiana Tech, UAB, Louisiana-Lafayette, Northern Illinois, UMass, Buffalo, Army (16)

MAC and Sun Belt merge.
Akron, Bowling Green, Ball State, Kent State, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan, Western Michigan, Miami (OH), Toledo, Ohio, Louisiana-Monroe, Troy, South Alabama, Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Arkansas State (16)

Idaho, you are banished to FCS. Scoot.

8 conferences
16 Team Playoff. 8 conference champions and 8 at-large selections.
All conferences have access to the playoffs.


Can you list the reasons why "Notre Dame must see that they have to join the ACC"?? Thanks.

1. I think Notre Dame fits in well with the ACC.
2. It fits my paradigm of "Eight 16 team conferences"
3. Alabama is in a conference. Texas is in a conference. Ohio State is in a conference.
4. Olympics are already in the ACC
5. Relations seem strained with the Big Ten
6. Don't really know....don't really care.


So, nothing in it for Notre Dame, it just fits your imaginary concept. Thanks.

Yep. You're welcome.
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(07-21-2015 05:04 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  OP:

That ACC is awful. The Big Ten and SEC improve significantly while the ACC stays basically the same.

Well from a basketball stance they get UConn men and women.....both perennial powers and title contenders.....and the ACC is basketball oriented.
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(07-21-2015 01:19 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  8 conferences
16 Team Playoff. 8 conference champions and 8 at-large selections.
All conferences have access to the playoffs.

If the G5 conference champs are ever involved in the CFP, they will play each other in an initial play-in round - to knock each other out. Think NCAA bball tournament.

So, if this ever happened, you would likely see a 10-12 team CFP with a first round involving the four G5 champs - that leaves the two remaining G5 champs to play on the road at #1 and #2.

It would still be awesome!
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(07-21-2015 06:11 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 05:04 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  OP:

That ACC is awful. The Big Ten and SEC improve significantly while the ACC stays basically the same.

Well from a basketball stance they get UConn men and women.....both perennial powers and title contenders.....and the ACC is basketball oriented.

Ok. So, clearly, you're not even trying. Got it.
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(07-21-2015 04:16 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 02:57 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  When it comes to the G5s, they do Care about geographic location, unless said rare place brings in a boatload of money like BYU (TV, attendance). Merging Sun Belt & MAC left-overs wouldn't be so viable.

If location never mattered, I would say merge the best of G5 teams, make it one conference, and make it P5. Simple as that. But that's a big reason why it can't be that simple. Location, location, location.

Since we're playing fantasy-land where travel costs don't matter, a new G5->P5 Conference full of 14 teams:

- Boise State
- BYU
- Memphis
- East Carolina
- UCF
- Northern Illinois
- Marshall
- Cincinnati
- Toledo
- Colorado State
- Houston
- Navy
- Temple
- Air Force
Hmmm... but does it qualify for an instant access bowl bid? Possibly...


Navy and Air Force will not join this conference. I would drop Temple. If you add North Dakota State, Eastern Washington and Georgia Southern in place of Temple, Air Force and Navy could make the conference look much more stronger.
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(07-21-2015 06:08 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 04:10 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 02:43 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 02:22 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(07-21-2015 01:19 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  Oklahoma and West Virginia are poached by the SEC.
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Mississippi State, LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, West Virginia, Oklahoma (16).

Texas and Kansas move on to the Big Ten.
Rutgers, Maryland, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Texas, Kansas (16)

Notre Dame must see that they have to join the ACC. They bring UConn with them.
Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, North Carolina, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Notre Dame, UConn (16)

Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech and BYU join the PAC.
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, BYU (16)

Baylor, TCU and Iowa State join the American Athletic Conference and bring Southern Miss and Old Dominion along.
Cincinnati, USF, UCF, Navy, Memphis, Houston, SMU, East Carolina, Tulane, Tulsa, Temple, Iowa State, Baylor, TCU, Southern Miss, Old Dominion (16)

Mountain West Conference expands.
Boise State, Colorado State, Air Force, Wyoming, San Diego State, New Mexico, Nevada, UNLV, Hawaii, Fresno State, San Jose State, Utah State, UTEP, Rice, UTSA, New Mexico State (16)

Conference USA expands.
Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Georgia State, Charlotte, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, North Texas, Texas State, Marshall, Louisiana Tech, UAB, Louisiana-Lafayette, Northern Illinois, UMass, Buffalo, Army (16)

MAC and Sun Belt merge.
Akron, Bowling Green, Ball State, Kent State, Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan, Western Michigan, Miami (OH), Toledo, Ohio, Louisiana-Monroe, Troy, South Alabama, Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Arkansas State (16)

Idaho, you are banished to FCS. Scoot.

8 conferences
16 Team Playoff. 8 conference champions and 8 at-large selections.
All conferences have access to the playoffs.


Can you list the reasons why "Notre Dame must see that they have to join the ACC"?? Thanks.

1. I think Notre Dame fits in well with the ACC.
2. It fits my paradigm of "Eight 16 team conferences"
3. Alabama is in a conference. Texas is in a conference. Ohio State is in a conference.
4. Olympics are already in the ACC
5. Relations seem strained with the Big Ten
6. Don't really know....don't really care.


So, nothing in it for Notre Dame, it just fits your imaginary concept. Thanks.

Yep. You're welcome.

No problem. I was just operating under the theory that there has to be some benefit to the incoming school to justify joining a football conference. My bad.
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There should just be 2 conferences:

The P65 (7 divisions) and the G64 (7 divisions)

P65 pacific-10
USC, UCLA, Stan, Cal, Ore, OrSU, Wash, WaSU, Ariz, ArizSt

P65 central-9
Col, Utah, Neb, IowaSt, Kan, KSU, Mizzou, Ok, Ok St

P65 Southwest-9
TT, Tex, TCU, Bay, Tex A&M, LSU, Miss, MissSt, Ark

P65 Southeast-9
Bama, Auburn, Tenn, Vandy, KY, Lou, Ga, FL, S Car

P65 Coastal-9
FL St, Mia, GT, Clem, UNC, NCSU, Wake, Duke, Va

p65 East-9
Penn St, Pitt, WV, MD, Rut, Cuse , BC, ND, VT

P65 North-10
Iowa, Minn, Wisc, ILL, NW, Indy, Pur, Mich, MichST, OhioST

G64 west-9
Haw, SDSU, FresnoST, UNLV, BoiseST, BYU, NM, CoLST, AFA

G64 mountain-9
Wyoming, NMSU, UTEP, TexST, UTSA, Idaho, UtahST, SJSU, Nev

G64 south-9
NTx, Tulsa, Rice, LT, ArkST, ULL, ULM, SMiss, UAB

G64 sun-9
Troy, USA, GaST, GaSo, FIU, FAU, WKy, MTSU, AppSt

G64 atlantic-9
UNCC, ODU, Marshall, UMass, Buf, Navy, Army, Temple, Ohio

G64 american-9
Uconn, Cincy, USF, UCF, Memphis, Hou, SMU, ECU, Tulane

G64 Mid-10
NIU, WMU, CMU, EMU, KentSt, BGSU, Tol, MiaO, etc
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RE: Eight 16 Team Conferences
I think people keep forgetting that both BYU and Boise State made more profits in football than several of the P5 schools.
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RE: Eight 16 Team Conferences
The answer is smaller conferences, not larger. The ideal conference size is 10- in football you move to a 9 game conference schedule so everybody plays everybody every year. In basketball an 18 game conference schedule give every team a home/away series vs every other conference member.
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