McMurphyESPN11:44am via TweetDeck
BYU & Notre Dame will count toward B1G’s Power 5 requirement, Jim Delany said

BrianHamiltonSI 11:25am via TweetDeck
Jim Delany on Big Ten strength of schedule plan starting in 2016: No FCS. One “intersectional game” against Power 5 team, nine league games.

slmandel 11:25am via Twitter for iPhone
Big Ten strength of schedule model that begins next season (includes no FCS foes)

so with that- Big Ten champion would have bare minimum 10 p5 games plus BYU- compared to 9 P5 games for Big 12 champion.

That further solidifies BYU's status as a de facto "Autonomy 5" (or P5) school.

for scheduling. Not going to help them with bowls or playoff access.

Why didn't the Big Ten stop scheduling FCS schools years ago?

(07-31-2015 11:15 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Why didn't the Big Ten stop scheduling FCS schools years ago?

Who cares? They're doing it now, I applaud them for doing so.

Do the academies count as a P5 opponent?

There's nearly 130 teams in Division I now. Plenty of weak competition available without having to drop to FCS. Especially if each Big 10 team will only have to fill two spots a year (max) with G5 schools.

This must be voluntary, rather than mandatory, because some Big Ten teams have FCS opponents scheduled after 2016.

If everyone eventually goes along with it, then G5 teams will be able to charge more for buy games. Just in the Big Ten alone, 14 teams each looking for 2 G5 games/year (and no FCS games) would increase demand enough for G5 teams to increase their asking price.

(07-31-2015 11:13 AM)stever20 Wrote:  so with that- Big Ten champion would have bare minimum ELEVEN p5 games plus BYU- compared to 9 P5 games for Big 12 champion.

Fixed it for you. You forgot the title game.

9 league games
At least 1 intersectional P5 game
1 title game vs Big 10 foe

(07-31-2015 11:29 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:13 AM)stever20 Wrote:  so with that- Big Ten champion would have bare minimum ELEVEN p5 games plus BYU- compared to 9 P5 games for Big 12 champion.

Fixed it for you. You forgot the title game.

9 league games
At least 1 intersectional P5 game
1 title game vs Big 10 foe

No, a team could have 9 league games, BYU, and title game. So that would be 10 p5 games plus BYU.

Good. I hate having that FCS game. It serves no purpose other than to act as a glorified scrimmage. That game is always played at noon, so I roast in the stands. The only redeeming factor is that RU has been playing MEAC schools, so they always bring their bands.

I hope the powers that be allow the academies to count. RU has long histories with Army and Navy. Those cut blocks kill our DL, but the games always have a great atmosphere.

(07-31-2015 11:18 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:15 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Why didn't the Big Ten stop scheduling FCS schools years ago?

Who cares? They're doing it now, I applaud them for doing so.

I applaud it too. No FBS school should play teams from a completely different division.

Wouldn't it have been great it they had never done it or stopped doing it a decade or two ago, though?

(07-31-2015 11:31 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:29 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:13 AM)stever20 Wrote:  so with that- Big Ten champion would have bare minimum ELEVEN p5 games plus BYU- compared to 9 P5 games for Big 12 champion.

Fixed it for you. You forgot the title game.

9 league games
At least 1 intersectional P5 game
1 title game vs Big 10 foe

No, a team could have 9 league games, BYU, and title game. So that would be 10 p5 games plus BYU.

The intersectional P5 game counts as a P5 game...obviously. It's also required, based on the tweet.

9 League games = 9 P5 Games
1 Intersectional = 1 P5 Game
1 Champ Game = 1 P5 Game

Minimum of 11 for the conference champ (and runner up), potential for more.

(07-31-2015 11:13 AM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  That further solidifies BYU's status as a de facto "Autonomy 5" (or P5) school.

That should. Now everyone can stop with the BYU going back to the MW or the AAC.

Still, BYU has to prove it by their schedule and getting a better bowl.

(07-31-2015 11:38 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:18 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:15 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Why didn't the Big Ten stop scheduling FCS schools years ago?

Who cares? They're doing it now, I applaud them for doing so.

I applaud it too. No FBS school should play teams from a completely different division.

Wouldn't it have been great it they had never done it or stopped doing it a decade or two ago, though?

Yeah, now I wish the SEC would agree.

(07-31-2015 11:13 AM)stever20 Wrote:  so with that- Big Ten champion would have bare minimum 10 p5 games plus BYU- compared to 9 P5 games for Big 12 champion.

To your point, Ohio State more or less had that schedule last year. 8 Conference games, plus one P5 OOC, plus Navy - who going forward would likely be a G5 once they join the AAC, but as an independent, had they stayed one likely would get the BYU treatment, especially since they mostly get home and home, home/neutral games from P5 teams, and this was a road/neutral game, I'd say it is the near equivalent of BYU this season - plus a former BCS school in Cincinnati. I think their lack of playing an FCS school, and two quasi-P5/BCS schools in addition to a P5 school OOC, plus the 13th game really put them over TCU and Baylor. It didn't help that TCU was the only one of the two to play a PF OOC, and Baylor who was the defacto champion, did not play one at all.

(07-31-2015 11:38 AM)e-parade Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:31 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:29 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:13 AM)stever20 Wrote:  so with that- Big Ten champion would have bare minimum ELEVEN p5 games plus BYU- compared to 9 P5 games for Big 12 champion.

Fixed it for you. You forgot the title game.

9 league games
At least 1 intersectional P5 game
1 title game vs Big 10 foe

No, a team could have 9 league games, BYU, and title game. So that would be 10 p5 games plus BYU.

The intersectional P5 game counts as a P5 game...obviously. It's also required, based on the tweet.

9 League games = 9 P5 Games
1 Intersectional = 1 P5 Game
1 Champ Game = 1 P5 Game

Minimum of 11 for the conference champ (and runner up), potential for more.

The intersectional game can be BYU, who is kind of a tweener...

So minimum is 10 P5 games for the champ if the intersectional game is BYU.

(07-31-2015 11:39 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:13 AM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  That further solidifies BYU's status as a de facto "Autonomy 5" (or P5) school.

That should. Now everyone can stop with the BYU going back to the MW or the AAC.

Still, BYU has to prove it by their schedule and getting a better bowl.

that's the key. But the thing is quite frankly- bowls want certainty. A better bowl isn't going to take BYU blindly- not knowing if they're getting a 10-2 version of BYU or a 6-6 version of BYU.

(07-31-2015 11:40 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:38 AM)e-parade Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:31 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:29 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(07-31-2015 11:13 AM)stever20 Wrote:  so with that- Big Ten champion would have bare minimum ELEVEN p5 games plus BYU- compared to 9 P5 games for Big 12 champion.

Fixed it for you. You forgot the title game.

9 league games
At least 1 intersectional P5 game
1 title game vs Big 10 foe

No, a team could have 9 league games, BYU, and title game. So that would be 10 p5 games plus BYU.

The intersectional P5 game counts as a P5 game...obviously. It's also required, based on the tweet.

9 League games = 9 P5 Games
1 Intersectional = 1 P5 Game
1 Champ Game = 1 P5 Game

Minimum of 11 for the conference champ (and runner up), potential for more.

The intersectional game can be BYU, who is kind of a tweener...

So minimum is 10 P5 games for the champ if the intersectional game is BYU.

Okay fine. It can be BYU, but not every team in the conference is going to schedule them. Most likely it will be 11 P5 games.


And the fact of the matter is that the B1G just defined BYU as a P5 anyway with that tweet. That you believe to be a "tweener" is irrelevant. They're certainly better than a bunch of the P5 teams out there anyway.