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I don't think you understand what nuanced means.
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(09-01-2015 01:46 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I don't think you understand what nuanced means.

Oh I do, I just don't care. I just like showing the hypocrisy of you leftists. Y'all are all about "Link?" and "Proof?" but have to put all kinds of conditions when you are asked to provide them, or in your case refuse to provide them.


And I'm not going to say I am wrong if commietom posts one or two anecdotal examples of a post where he mildly criticizes a leftist. If he were truly bipartisan he would post examples of threads he created bashing the left like he does constantly for the right.
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RE: Clerk Defies Supreme Court
(09-01-2015 01:53 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:46 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I don't think you understand what nuanced means.

Oh I do, I just don't care. I just like showing the hypocrisy of you leftists. Y'all are all about "Link?" and "Proof?" but have to put all kinds of conditions when you are asked to provide them, or in your case refuse to provide them.


And I'm not going to say I am wrong if commietom posts one or two anecdotal examples of a post where he mildly criticizes a leftist. If he were truly bipartisan he would post examples of threads he created bashing the left like he does constantly for the right.

First, you just moved the goal posts. You first said comments and now you're demanding threads started.

Anyway, where did I say that I was a bipartisan? I only said that I was independent and not beholden to either party. It's no secret that most of my positions are liberal and lean towards the democrats.

This idiotic notion that us liberals have to apologize and show how many conservative principles we have and how many democrats we disagree with, but the cons don't have to apologize for anything or be neutral on positions themselves.

Thankfully not all of the cons here fall into that category.

Here's a few for you:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-720376-post-116...id11612402
http://csnbbs.com/thread-686260-post-106...id10669985
http://csnbbs.com/thread-579617-post-810...pid8104610
http://csnbbs.com/thread-650281-post-974...pid9742057
http://csnbbs.com/thread-685363-post-106...id10649546
http://csnbbs.com/thread-679949-post-105...id10501591
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(09-01-2015 01:00 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  A. "Throw her in Jail!" "She isn't enforcing Federal Law!" --- Liberals on Probate Court Judges related to gay marriage

B. "Federal Law is wrong and they are right to not follow it!" --- Liberals on sanctuary cities

A+B=C (hypocrisy)

Pretty much sums up the hypocrisy.
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(09-01-2015 02:56 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:00 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  A. "Throw her in Jail!" "She isn't enforcing Federal Law!" --- Liberals on Probate Court Judges related to gay marriage

B. "Federal Law is wrong and they are right to not follow it!" --- Liberals on sanctuary cities

A+B=C (hypocrisy)

Pretty much sums up the hypocrisy.

Except, as I've pointed out, I'm a liberal and have stated nothing of the sort. Stop grouping people lazily, and make comments based on specifics.
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(09-01-2015 01:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:00 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  A. "Throw her in Jail!" "She isn't enforcing Federal Law!" --- Liberals on Probate Court Judges related to gay marriage

B. "Federal Law is wrong and they are right to not follow it!" --- Liberals on sanctuary cities

A+B=C (hypocrisy)

Except I'm not saying that, I am saying she is ignoring a court order and therefore subjecting herself to being arrested for contempt of court. I am liberal, and therefore your above statement is entirely wrong.

Was I talking to you? Did I address that to you?

Take a look and let me know.
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RE: Clerk Defies Supreme Court
(09-01-2015 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:53 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:46 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I don't think you understand what nuanced means.

Oh I do, I just don't care. I just like showing the hypocrisy of you leftists. Y'all are all about "Link?" and "Proof?" but have to put all kinds of conditions when you are asked to provide them, or in your case refuse to provide them.


And I'm not going to say I am wrong if commietom posts one or two anecdotal examples of a post where he mildly criticizes a leftist. If he were truly bipartisan he would post examples of threads he created bashing the left like he does constantly for the right.

First, you just moved the goal posts. You first said comments and now you're demanding threads started.

Anyway, where did I say that I was a bipartisan? I only said that I was independent and not beholden to either party. It's no secret that most of my positions are liberal and lean towards the democrats.

This idiotic notion that us liberals have to apologize and show how many conservative principles we have and how many democrats we disagree with, but the cons don't have to apologize for anything or be neutral on positions themselves.

Thankfully not all of the cons here fall into that category.

Here's a few for you:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-720376-post-116...id11612402
http://csnbbs.com/thread-686260-post-106...id10669985
http://csnbbs.com/thread-579617-post-810...pid8104610
http://csnbbs.com/thread-650281-post-974...pid9742057
http://csnbbs.com/thread-685363-post-106...id10649546
http://csnbbs.com/thread-679949-post-105...id10501591

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RE: Clerk Defies Supreme Court
(09-01-2015 03:03 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:00 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  A. "Throw her in Jail!" "She isn't enforcing Federal Law!" --- Liberals on Probate Court Judges related to gay marriage

B. "Federal Law is wrong and they are right to not follow it!" --- Liberals on sanctuary cities

A+B=C (hypocrisy)

Except I'm not saying that, I am saying she is ignoring a court order and therefore subjecting herself to being arrested for contempt of court. I am liberal, and therefore your above statement is entirely wrong.

Was I talking to you? Did I address that to you?

Take a look and let me know.

No, you addressed it to all Liberals, and as I've shown, that's simply not accurate. Stop lazily grouping people together unfairly.

EDIT: I've bolded the pertinent portion for you.
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RE: Clerk Defies Supreme Court
(09-01-2015 03:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:53 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:46 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I don't think you understand what nuanced means.

Oh I do, I just don't care. I just like showing the hypocrisy of you leftists. Y'all are all about "Link?" and "Proof?" but have to put all kinds of conditions when you are asked to provide them, or in your case refuse to provide them.


And I'm not going to say I am wrong if commietom posts one or two anecdotal examples of a post where he mildly criticizes a leftist. If he were truly bipartisan he would post examples of threads he created bashing the left like he does constantly for the right.

First, you just moved the goal posts. You first said comments and now you're demanding threads started.

Anyway, where did I say that I was a bipartisan? I only said that I was independent and not beholden to either party. It's no secret that most of my positions are liberal and lean towards the democrats.

This idiotic notion that us liberals have to apologize and show how many conservative principles we have and how many democrats we disagree with, but the cons don't have to apologize for anything or be neutral on positions themselves.

Thankfully not all of the cons here fall into that category.

Here's a few for you:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-720376-post-116...id11612402
http://csnbbs.com/thread-686260-post-106...id10669985
http://csnbbs.com/thread-579617-post-810...pid8104610
http://csnbbs.com/thread-650281-post-974...pid9742057
http://csnbbs.com/thread-685363-post-106...id10649546
http://csnbbs.com/thread-679949-post-105...id10501591

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RE: Clerk Defies Supreme Court
(09-01-2015 03:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 03:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:53 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:46 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I don't think you understand what nuanced means.

Oh I do, I just don't care. I just like showing the hypocrisy of you leftists. Y'all are all about "Link?" and "Proof?" but have to put all kinds of conditions when you are asked to provide them, or in your case refuse to provide them.


And I'm not going to say I am wrong if commietom posts one or two anecdotal examples of a post where he mildly criticizes a leftist. If he were truly bipartisan he would post examples of threads he created bashing the left like he does constantly for the right.

First, you just moved the goal posts. You first said comments and now you're demanding threads started.

Anyway, where did I say that I was a bipartisan? I only said that I was independent and not beholden to either party. It's no secret that most of my positions are liberal and lean towards the democrats.

This idiotic notion that us liberals have to apologize and show how many conservative principles we have and how many democrats we disagree with, but the cons don't have to apologize for anything or be neutral on positions themselves.

Thankfully not all of the cons here fall into that category.

Here's a few for you:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-720376-post-116...id11612402
http://csnbbs.com/thread-686260-post-106...id10669985
http://csnbbs.com/thread-579617-post-810...pid8104610
http://csnbbs.com/thread-650281-post-974...pid9742057
http://csnbbs.com/thread-685363-post-106...id10649546
http://csnbbs.com/thread-679949-post-105...id10501591

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Been an hour so far.....

So?

Oh my god that's sad, you can't even admit you were wrong on an anonymous messageboard? You made a misstatement, just admit it and move on. What is it with so many of the messageboard posters here who have such an inability to admit their own mistakes?
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RE: Clerk Defies Supreme Court
Fine her 10k per day, per denied couple and jail her until she complies. Do the same to every one of her deputies. By the way, shes been running the office as if it is her property, with Chicago style nepotism and back scratching. Shes been married 4 times.

jail is merited as she will try to receive compensation for fines
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(09-01-2015 12:58 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 12:47 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 12:40 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 11:45 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 10:36 AM)bullet Wrote:  I would think there would be a procedure to remove them from office if they weren't doing their duty.

The only loons are the ones wanting to throw her in jail. Tells a lot about the state of mind of progressives in this country. The left has become very totalitarian.

She's an elected official, and therefore cannot simply be fired and must be removed through a process of impeachment. Furthermore, any person who defies a court order subjects themselves to arrest, and the judge has made that very, very clear in his past rulings. Stop with the useless partisan rhetoric here, it has nothing to do with the 'mind of progressives' and everything to do with the rule of law. If she goes to jail, it will be of her own volition entirely, and not because of some nonsensical claim of 'totalitarianism'.

And let me remind every single person here that she had absolutely no problem issuing licenses to literally every single couple who genders she approved of, regardless of their following her religious beliefs in regards to marriage. She never questioned anyone about having open marriages, whether they were religious, whether they were sexually active before marriage, or any of the other dozens of issues that biblically are just as important as the gender of those getting married. She's simply a bigot using her religion as a shield to discriminate against those whose lifestyle she disagrees with.

Its useful to point out the hypocrisy of the left who claims to want freedom but jumps on the chance to throw any right winger in jail (and I bet nearly every one of those supports lesser jail sentences for things like drug crimes).

Let me remind you that marriage between opposite sexes is something that wouldn't have gotten 2 votes on the Supreme Court a quarter century ago and probably not 1. There is a huge difference.

Again, all together now, no one is jumping on any opportunity to throw anyone in jail, the woman is intentionally refusing a court order which can result in a charge of contempt of court. Stop saying you're combating some hypocrisy which does not exist, she is not being thrown in jail for her beliefs, she is being thrown in jail for refusing a court order. Stop. You're wrong, and repeating yourself doesn't make you any less wrong.

You're wrong and repeating yourself doesn't make you any less wrong.
But you seem unable to comprehend anything that's not simple, so its a waste to try to explain the difference to you.

The plaintiffs and their lawyers have asked the judge to hold her in contempt but have asked that she just receive fines not jail time. Here's the link:

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/31/politi...index.html

If you're talking about crazy politico liberals on the internet calling for her to be thrown in jail, yeah there's plenty of crazy on both sides out there. Link:

http://csnbbs.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=540

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Also, I would encourage every unmarried Gay couple in KY to file for a license in her office and then sue the county and her personally for damages. Might pay for the wedding in February. Also, itd be great if each gay litigant retained separate counsel, so the state will end up having to pay massive legal fees
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(09-01-2015 03:23 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 03:03 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:00 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  A. "Throw her in Jail!" "She isn't enforcing Federal Law!" --- Liberals on Probate Court Judges related to gay marriage

B. "Federal Law is wrong and they are right to not follow it!" --- Liberals on sanctuary cities

A+B=C (hypocrisy)

Except I'm not saying that, I am saying she is ignoring a court order and therefore subjecting herself to being arrested for contempt of court. I am liberal, and therefore your above statement is entirely wrong.

Was I talking to you? Did I address that to you?

Take a look and let me know.

No, you addressed it to all Liberals, and as I've shown, that's simply not accurate. Stop lazily grouping people together unfairly.

EDIT: I've bolded the pertinent portion for you.

Stop acting so self important; you aren't.
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(09-01-2015 10:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 10:05 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Good for her. She'll pay for it, but it's refreshing to see people putting up a fight. We need much more of that.

So, we get to pick and choose which laws we follow...which SCOTUS decisions we need to honor?

Seems to work for the potus
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Everyone seems to be in a great mood today.
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(09-01-2015 04:16 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Everyone seems to be in a great mood today.

Which is odd because it's been a great day.
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(09-01-2015 03:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 03:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:53 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:46 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I don't think you understand what nuanced means.

Oh I do, I just don't care. I just like showing the hypocrisy of you leftists. Y'all are all about "Link?" and "Proof?" but have to put all kinds of conditions when you are asked to provide them, or in your case refuse to provide them.


And I'm not going to say I am wrong if commietom posts one or two anecdotal examples of a post where he mildly criticizes a leftist. If he were truly bipartisan he would post examples of threads he created bashing the left like he does constantly for the right.

First, you just moved the goal posts. You first said comments and now you're demanding threads started.

Anyway, where did I say that I was a bipartisan? I only said that I was independent and not beholden to either party. It's no secret that most of my positions are liberal and lean towards the democrats.

This idiotic notion that us liberals have to apologize and show how many conservative principles we have and how many democrats we disagree with, but the cons don't have to apologize for anything or be neutral on positions themselves.

Thankfully not all of the cons here fall into that category.

Here's a few for you:
http://csnbbs.com/thread-720376-post-116...id11612402
http://csnbbs.com/thread-686260-post-106...id10669985
http://csnbbs.com/thread-579617-post-810...pid8104610
http://csnbbs.com/thread-650281-post-974...pid9742057
http://csnbbs.com/thread-685363-post-106...id10649546
http://csnbbs.com/thread-679949-post-105...id10501591

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Uh huh. Thanks for being a man of integrity. Welcome to my ignore list. Sad.
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(09-01-2015 03:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 03:23 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 03:03 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:00 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  A. "Throw her in Jail!" "She isn't enforcing Federal Law!" --- Liberals on Probate Court Judges related to gay marriage

B. "Federal Law is wrong and they are right to not follow it!" --- Liberals on sanctuary cities

A+B=C (hypocrisy)

Except I'm not saying that, I am saying she is ignoring a court order and therefore subjecting herself to being arrested for contempt of court. I am liberal, and therefore your above statement is entirely wrong.

Was I talking to you? Did I address that to you?

Take a look and let me know.

No, you addressed it to all Liberals, and as I've shown, that's simply not accurate. Stop lazily grouping people together unfairly.

EDIT: I've bolded the pertinent portion for you.

Stop acting so self important; you aren't.

That's not acting self-important, that's holding you to your word. Do you admit your post is not true? Or are you going to argue that I am either not a liberal or are arguing what you propose?
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(09-01-2015 05:01 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 03:39 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 03:23 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 03:03 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 01:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Except I'm not saying that, I am saying she is ignoring a court order and therefore subjecting herself to being arrested for contempt of court. I am liberal, and therefore your above statement is entirely wrong.

Was I talking to you? Did I address that to you?

Take a look and let me know.

No, you addressed it to all Liberals, and as I've shown, that's simply not accurate. Stop lazily grouping people together unfairly.

EDIT: I've bolded the pertinent portion for you.

Stop acting so self important; you aren't.

That's not acting self-important, that's holding you to your word. Do you admit your post is not true? Or are you going to argue that I am either not a liberal or are arguing what you propose?

I wasn't talking to you little boy, so what are you talking about?
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