I think this is a good thing. It gives students a chance to make decisions on their own instead of abiding by hard and fast rules. The reason I'm posting this is for Pro-Liberty supporters to have something to refer to when someone says LU's rules are too harsh to recruit good FBS level players..etc etc.

https://www.liberty.edu/champion/2015/09...y-revised/

Unfortunately, the article is intentionally ambiguous about the Liberty Way. While I'll withhold my judgement until I see specifics, I just hope and pray that we are not sacrificing our uniqueness, character, and principles for the sake of football and fitting in with our academic peers- the self-proclaimed and enlightened definers of tolerance, diversity, and political correctness.

I hope I am off base here, but there have been some recent announced changes that have me concerned. Such as the recent revocation of the LU scholarships provided to LCA and the area Christian schools and now this. I am disappointed in that revocaton, and all of my kids go to public schools.

God help us if we're making drastic changes for the sake of football and "cultural fit."

(09-12-2015 07:26 PM)LUOrange Wrote:  Unfortunately, the article is intentionally ambiguous about the Liberty Way. While I'll withhold my judgement until I see specifics, I just hope and pray that we are not sacrificing our uniqueness, character, and principles for the sake of football and fitting in with our academic peers- the self-proclaimed and enlightened definers of tolerance, diversity, and political correctness.

I hope I am off base here, but there have been some recent announced changes that have me concerned. Such as the recent revocation of the LU scholarships provided to LCA and the area Christian schools and now this. I am disappointed in that revocaton, and all of my kids go to public schools.

God help us if we're making drastic changes for the sake of football and "cultural fit."

Pretty sure those LCA scholy rules changed because LCA joined the VA pubic school sports conference or whatever it's called. As for the LU rule changes I think it's fantastic. In my opinion it lets students grow into adults instead of being forced to abide by such and such rules. I guess I'm trying to say is that they have a choice and can grow from that choice and for me that's fantastic.

I also think it's so LU can grow its student pop easier. LU wants to be in the 20k range and to get students with solid sat/act scores you need to cast a wider net. Limiting yourself to strictly hardcore Christian students has its limits.

I'm disappointed in this decision. If we're not disinctivly Christian then my support will wane.

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Pretty sure LU is still really Christian just with more lax rules to make a students stay their less rigid. We can't keep doing the same thing at LU and expect a different result. I don't know if this decision was based off being more accepted into the FBS ranks or not. What I do know is getting in with the way we were doing things wasn't working. Also LU's long term goals of higher quality student growth might have something to do with it. If we want to be a national university we have to start changing things instead of focusing on a very small section of ready made Christian students.

The article was kind of vague in what, if anything, actually changed. If Liberty is changing rules to reach FBS then that's not a good idea in my opinion. I don't want Liberty to control how people think or try to control what individuals' opinions are. Having said that, if you leave discretion in the hands of young and immature "adults" then they will consistently push the envelop in the wrong direction and make poor decisions. There will be exceptions that stay behind the line but they will be the exception. And I thought the rules were getting too lax when I was a student!

I'll need more time to come up with the exact words that fit my emotions.

(09-12-2015 09:42 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  The article was kind of vague in what, if anything, actually changed. If Liberty is changing rules to reach FBS then that's not a good idea in my opinion. I don't want Liberty to control how people think or try to control what individuals' opinions are. Having said that, if you leave discretion in the hands of young and immature "adults" then they will consistently push the envelop in the wrong direction and make poor decisions. There will be exceptions that stay behind the line but they will be the exception. And I thought the rules were getting too lax when I was a student!

I'll need more time to come up with the exact words that fit my emotions.

Those students that push the envelope will do it no matter what the rules are. All a student has to do is move off campus and the rules pretty much all vanish anyways. Maybe I'm the only person here that thinks it's a smart longterm move. If I do we will all have to agree to disagree. If the old cats at the admin level at LU decided this I'm sure it's all part of their longterm strategic vision. So it wasn't just a pointless policy change to upset Alumni.

In principal, I agree, and it seems like a good idea. We will see how it plays out in reality. You want kids to make good decisions, yes. But they still must understand their are consequences for poor decisions. What I read in the article was quite vague.

I had heard that argument about the VHSL and the LCA scholarships as well. Again, I hope that my initial response about these unknown Liberty Way changes was off base, and I'll give Liberty the benefit of the doubt until I see specifics. However, Liberty isn't having any issues recruiting students or student athletes so they don't need to try and "fit in" with other schools.

Liberty is actually refreshing when compared to their peers for devout Christians and conservatives and is actually able to tap into that specific market, just as Dr. Falwell envisioned us to be- the Christian equivalent of Notre Dame and BYU. We've been able to attract some very good and often overlooked athletes, ie., Peter Aluma, Rashaad Jennings, Eric Green just to name a few. Imagine the possibilities when we actually become 1-A and are able to offer the Tim Tebow's and Colt McCoy's of the world a competitive Christian alternative.