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The Rutgers president is a complete idiot.
He spends on university consultants like a drunken sailor and spends 350 million on an excessive complex for an honors college and hires tons of 500k administrators but fails to provide a B10 coaching staff for football(they are more like a G5 staff)
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(10-12-2015 11:47 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  
(10-12-2015 11:31 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(10-12-2015 11:28 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  If South Carolina continues their recent hiring trend, I could see them going after Jim Tressel.

Not Tressel. Mack Brown.

Not Tressel. Not Brown. Bobby Bowden.

You have got to think outside the box.

Not Tressel. Not Brown. Not Bowden. Joe Paterno.
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(10-13-2015 07:02 AM)chess Wrote:  
(10-12-2015 11:47 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  
(10-12-2015 11:31 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(10-12-2015 11:28 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  If South Carolina continues their recent hiring trend, I could see them going after Jim Tressel.

Not Tressel. Mack Brown.

Not Tressel. Not Brown. Bobby Bowden.

You have got to think outside the box.

Not Tressel. Not Brown. Not Bowden. Joe Paterno.

I kinda lost track, did Paterno get his wins back? Is he again the all-time winning coach? I can't see Bowden ever going back to a P5 school, but I wonder if he would to a place like USF or FIU just to get the coaching record.
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(10-13-2015 04:30 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  The Rutgers president is a complete idiot.
He spends on university consultants like a drunken sailor and spends 350 million on an excessive complex for an honors college and hires tons of 500k administrators but fails to provide a B10 coaching staff for football(they are more like a G5 staff)

Yeah. What's he thinking, spending money on academics instead of athletics? His priorities are clearly wrong.
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I've been wondering for a while where South Carolina would fit in the pecking order of coaching vacancies once Spurrier stepped down. Other than during his tenure, the Gamecocks have never known much success in football (or basketball either, for that matter).

Spurrier made a huge mistake when he said he would coach 2-3 more years. Because of that he lost a few commitments to other schools, and he had to back off that statement. But I suspect he's been hearing on the recruiting trail that prospects aren't buying his retraction. By leaving now, maybe the hope is that USC can at least promise recruits they will have the same coach all four years, even if they can't yet tell them who that will be.

If they are planning to promote an assistant, I bet they act quickly to remove any "interim" tag from his title.
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(10-12-2015 10:28 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  So the annual Coaching Carousel is spinning early this year. So far, we have confirmed openings at

ACC
-None at this time-
(Virginia- Hot Seat/ Mike London) Will be retained
(Miami- Hot Seat/ Al Golden) Will be retained
(Virginia Tech- Medium) Bud Foster

Big 10
-Illinois (Tim Beckman- Fired) Rod Carey
-Maryland(Randy Edsall- Fired) Matt Rhule
(Rutgers-Hot Seat/ Kyle Flood Suspended) PJ Fleck
(Purdue- Hot Seat/ Darrell Hazzel) Will be retained

Big XII
-None at this time-
(Iowa State- Hot Seat/ Paul Rhoads) Will be retained

PAC 12
-USC(Steve Sarkesian- Fired) Chip Kelly

SEC
-South Carolina (Steve Spurrier- Retired)Kirby Smart
(Georgia-Hot Seat/ Mark Richt) Justin Fuente
(Tennessee-Medium-Hot Seat/ Butch Jones) Will be retained

And... No Idea on the rest
AAC
-None at this time-
(UCF- Hot Seat/ George O'Leary)
(USF- Hot Seat/ Willie Taggart)

CUSA
-North Texas (Dan McCarney- Fired)

MAC
-None at this time-

Mountain West
-None at this time-

Sun Belt
-None at this time-

So here are the openings and some rumored openings... Also let me know some "Hot Seat" situations and I'll add those in conjunction with the "Hot Seat" thread....but only the bona fide "hot seat" coaches, not the "speculative" ones.
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(10-13-2015 09:03 AM)ken d Wrote:  I've been wondering for a while where South Carolina would fit in the pecking order of coaching vacancies once Spurrier stepped down. Other than during his tenure, the Gamecocks have never known much success in football (or basketball either, for that matter).

Spurrier made a huge mistake when he said he would coach 2-3 more years. Because of that he lost a few commitments to other schools, and he had to back off that statement. But I suspect he's been hearing on the recruiting trail that prospects aren't buying his retraction. By leaving now, maybe the hope is that USC can at least promise recruits they will have the same coach all four years, even if they can't yet tell them who that will be.

If they are planning to promote an assistant, I bet they act quickly to remove any "interim" tag from his title.
South Carolina has plenty of resources and can build like the rest of the SEC schools.
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(10-13-2015 09:50 AM)chess Wrote:  
(10-13-2015 09:03 AM)ken d Wrote:  I've been wondering for a while where South Carolina would fit in the pecking order of coaching vacancies once Spurrier stepped down. Other than during his tenure, the Gamecocks have never known much success in football (or basketball either, for that matter).

Spurrier made a huge mistake when he said he would coach 2-3 more years. Because of that he lost a few commitments to other schools, and he had to back off that statement. But I suspect he's been hearing on the recruiting trail that prospects aren't buying his retraction. By leaving now, maybe the hope is that USC can at least promise recruits they will have the same coach all four years, even if they can't yet tell them who that will be.

If they are planning to promote an assistant, I bet they act quickly to remove any "interim" tag from his title.
South Carolina has plenty of resources and can build like the rest of the SEC schools.

Money has never been the problem for South Carolina coaches. Yet they have had limited success on the gridiron. I don't see how that changes in the future, unless the SEC adds two tobacco road schools to the eastern division. If, instead, they somehow bagged Oklahoma and another B12 power, and Alabama and Auburn shift to the east, they will be a perennial also ran.
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Ed Orgeron ends up as a head coach somewhere, I'm sure.
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(10-13-2015 10:11 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Ed Orgeron ends up as a head coach somewhere, I'm sure.

I don't get the love so many people have for him. I think he's a lot like Tom Bradley (former DC for PSU) who is always mentioned for HC jobs but never comes close to getting them. I get that he was the Ole Miss HC, but that was a long time ago and he has never been considered for a HC gig since. Interim coach at USC doesn't count.
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What I would like to see is a list of potential coaching candidates, with their present job status. Anybody have such a list?
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UVA will be getting a new football coach.
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I think Hawaii's coach - Norm Chow is in the hot seat. Add them to the MW column.
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(10-13-2015 10:27 AM)ken d Wrote:  What I would like to see is a list of potential coaching candidates, with their present job status. Anybody have such a list?


Of unemployed, or coaches that you think might move on?


It is easy to speculate that a coach like Justin Fuerte will be a target of a P5 school

But what about a coach like Gary Patterson? Would he be tempted by Southern Cal?
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(10-13-2015 10:30 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I think Hawaii's coach - Norm Chow is in the hot seat. Add them to the MW column.

Yeah, I think that's fair... Done.
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(10-13-2015 11:43 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(10-13-2015 10:27 AM)ken d Wrote:  What I would like to see is a list of potential coaching candidates, with their present job status. Anybody have such a list?


Of unemployed, or coaches that you think might move on?


It is easy to speculate that a coach like Justin Fuerte will be a target of a P5 school

But what about a coach like Gary Patterson? Would he be tempted by Southern Cal?

I think the list of unemployed coaches who would be likely candidates is pretty short. After Greg Schiano and Butch Davis, there's not much. And at 63, with NCAA issues at two previous stops, Davis is iffy.

Thinking about this, I'd say there are really two lists. First, coaches who would consider leaving only for a gig like Southern Cal, and second guys who would consider any other P5 opening. There aren't many head coaches who wouldn't at least listen to Southern Cal.

That second list would be pretty long, especially if you include coordinators.

Off the top of my head, I see head coaches:

Matt Ruhle, Temple
Justin Fuente, Memphis
Tom Herman, Houston
PJ Fleck, Western Michigan
Matt Campbell, Toledo
Dino Babers, Bowling Green
Bryan Hairsin, Boise State
Jeff Brohm, Western Kentucky
Doc Holliday, Marshall
Chad Morris, SMU (maybe too soon)

and longshots

Rich Rodriguez, Arizona
Sonny Dykes, Cal
Dan Mullen, Mississippi State

Coordinators might include

Kirby Smart, Alabama (OC)
Brent Venables, Clemson
Luke Fickell, Ohio State
Cam Cameron, LSU
Doug Meacham, TCU (OC)
Lincoln Riley, Oklahoma (OC)
Gene Chizik, UNC
Mike Norvell, Arizona State (OC)
Bud Foster, Virginia Tech (only to succeed Beamer)

A lot may yet depend on which other jobs come open as the season progresses. There will be a lot of back channel communication with agents, since it's not likely many active coaches are going to talk directly while they are still coaching in the regular season.
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You are right that many, many coaches would listen to So Cal.

Stoops, Patterson, etc are possible.
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(10-13-2015 12:55 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You are right that many, many coaches would listen to So Cal.

Stoops, Patterson, etc are possible.

Is there any active coach who wouldn't accept an offer to coach USC today? I think Urban would go. Saban and Miles probably wouldn't. Harbaugh I think would. Charlie Strong would. As would Brian Kelly. Those coaches coach the "jobs" that many see on the same level as USC: Ohio St, Bama, LSU, Michigan, Texas, and ND (in no particular order). Every other coach would go IMO. Also, I think several NFL coaches would probably go- Kelly, Fisher, etc. USC can just about pick anyone they want. Oh, and one last name to throw out (just because): How about Gruden?
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(10-13-2015 01:23 PM)herdfan2013 Wrote:  
(10-13-2015 12:55 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You are right that many, many coaches would listen to So Cal.

Stoops, Patterson, etc are possible.

Is there any active coach who wouldn't accept an offer to coach USC today? I think Urban would go. Saban and Miles probably wouldn't. Harbaugh I think would. Charlie Strong would. As would Brian Kelly. Those coaches coach the "jobs" that many see on the same level as USC: Ohio St, Bama, LSU, Michigan, Texas, and ND (in no particular order). Every other coach would go IMO. Also, I think several NFL coaches would probably go- Kelly, Fisher, etc. USC can just about pick anyone they want. Oh, and one last name to throw out (just because): How about Gruden?

Which one - John or Jay?
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(10-13-2015 01:23 PM)herdfan2013 Wrote:  
(10-13-2015 12:55 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You are right that many, many coaches would listen to So Cal.

Stoops, Patterson, etc are possible.

Is there any active coach who wouldn't accept an offer to coach USC today? I think Urban would go. Saban and Miles probably wouldn't. Harbaugh I think would. Charlie Strong would. As would Brian Kelly. Those coaches coach the "jobs" that many see on the same level as USC: Ohio St, Bama, LSU, Michigan, Texas, and ND (in no particular order). Every other coach would go IMO. Also, I think several NFL coaches would probably go- Kelly, Fisher, etc. USC can just about pick anyone they want. Oh, and one last name to throw out (just because): How about Gruden?

Urban wouldn't go. Harbaugh wouldn't go.
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