(12-15-2017 12:13 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 10:58 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Saw it last night. Enjoyed most of it, but there's one scene near the beginning that nearly ruined it for me. To avoid spoilers, I'll just say it involved Leia.

Which scene?

If its the one I'm thinking about. didn't bother me

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(12-16-2017 04:55 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 09:16 PM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  Man, I really liked The Last Jedi. Way better than The Force Awakens.

Do you think that Rian Johnson would read all the Snoke theories and giggle a little?

He'd be beside himself

That's a joke son, you know, a funny. Because of what happened to Snoke.

(12-16-2017 05:31 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 04:55 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 09:16 PM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  Man, I really liked The Last Jedi. Way better than The Force Awakens.

Do you think that Rian Johnson would read all the Snoke theories and giggle a little?

He'd be beside himself

That's a joke son, you know, a funny. Because of what happened to Snoke.

See you around, kid.

(12-16-2017 01:26 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 12:13 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 10:58 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Saw it last night. Enjoyed most of it, but there's one scene near the beginning that nearly ruined it for me. To avoid spoilers, I'll just say it involved Leia.

Which scene?

If its the one I'm thinking about. didn't bother me

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People nitpick too much. Scene explanation? She is a Skywalker.

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(12-16-2017 09:35 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 01:26 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 12:13 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 10:58 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Saw it last night. Enjoyed most of it, but there's one scene near the beginning that nearly ruined it for me. To avoid spoilers, I'll just say it involved Leia.

Which scene?

If its the one I'm thinking about. didn't bother me

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People nitpick too much. Scene explanation? She is a Skywalker.

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Not a mic drop revelation, but congratulations on making yourself a d-bag. She's never shown more than an ability to have a slight telepathic connection to Luke. That is what should have been used in this instance. A call to someone telepathically who then rescues her. It would have fit better and not looked so fake and cheesy. We have spacesuits. Certainly they have spacesuits on board a starship and a cable/winch to go get her. That would have been more realistic and better explained the need for her to be hospitalized for most of the movie afterwards. I mean if you can force-fly through outer space, you can certainly force shield a little from the cold.

This movie had so much potential but it was filled with terrible and lazy writing.

-The new age, "hip" awkward comic relief has ruined this new franchise for me from the start. The "can you hear me" scene with Poe/Hux in the beginning is cringeworthy.
-Finn is not funny, he should've died
-Leia floating scene...ughhhhh, just bad.
-Laura Dern's pointless character
-The completely unnecessary shirtless Kylo scene
-The all mighty all powerful bad ass villain Snoke...who has TERRIBLE hearing and peripheral vision gets him killed shortly after his brief in-person introduction. Really? Lazy writing.
-Porgs...Disney is trying way to hard to make their new baby groot character. They are stupid and annoying.
-Maz's facetime union battle...wtf???
-Rey's parental disappointment
-The pointless horse-racing/casino scene...
-The lack of Rey/Luke training scenes
-The tiny 5 sec. fight between Phasma/Finn...what a disgrace to Phasma's character
-Luke's boring death...why couldn't they just actually make it to where Kylo actually kills Luke.

There was so many things wrong with this movie. It's almost as bad as phantom and attack of the clones.

Everyone has opinions. Think A LOT of it is nick picking from some of y'all. I thought it was the best one I've seen.

(12-17-2017 02:21 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 09:35 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 01:26 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 12:13 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 10:58 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Saw it last night. Enjoyed most of it, but there's one scene near the beginning that nearly ruined it for me. To avoid spoilers, I'll just say it involved Leia.

Which scene?

If its the one I'm thinking about. didn't bother me

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People nitpick too much. Scene explanation? She is a Skywalker.

Drops Mic

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Not a mic drop revelation, but congratulations on making yourself a d-bag. She's never shown more than an ability to have a slight telepathic connection to Luke. That is what should have been used in this instance. A call to someone telepathically who then rescues her. It would have fit better and not looked so fake and cheesy. We have spacesuits. Certainly they have spacesuits on board a starship and a cable/winch to go get her. That would have been more realistic and better explained the need for her to be hospitalized for most of the movie afterwards. I mean if you can force-fly through outer space, you can certainly force shield a little from the cold.

It's 30 years later. Certainly her abilities would have developed. And again nitpicking
Why can't people just watch a movie without dissecting every frame like it's the Zapruder film. Taken as a whole it was a good movie.

But if that scene reduces tou to name calling anger...good good let the anger flow through you. Your every keyboard tap makes you more my apprentice.

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(12-17-2017 02:53 AM)TTT Wrote:  This movie had so much potential but it was filled with terrible and lazy writing.

-The new age, "hip" awkward comic relief has ruined this new franchise for me from the start. The "can you hear me" scene with Poe/Hux in the beginning is cringeworthy.
-Finn is not funny, he should've died
-Leia floating scene...ughhhhh, just bad.
-Laura Dern's pointless character
-The completely unnecessary shirtless Kylo scene
-The all mighty all powerful bad ass villain Snoke...who has TERRIBLE hearing and peripheral vision gets him killed shortly after his brief in-person introduction. Really? Lazy writing.
-Porgs...Disney is trying way to hard to make their new baby groot character. They are stupid and annoying.
-Maz's facetime union battle...wtf???
-Rey's parental disappointment
-The pointless horse-racing/casino scene...
-The lack of Rey/Luke training scenes
-The tiny 5 sec. fight between Phasma/Finn...what a disgrace to Phasma's character
-Luke's boring death...why couldn't they just actually make it to where Kylo actually kills Luke.

There was so many things wrong with this movie. It's almost as bad as phantom and attack of the clones.

So you hate Star Wars....greeaaat.

You should maybe make your own movie and never revisit this franchise.

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This movie was terrible in almost every way. It's not "hate", it's stepping back and looking at it objectively.

Whoever directed Rogue One should've done the entire new trilogy.

(12-17-2017 02:21 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 09:35 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 01:26 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 12:13 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-15-2017 10:58 AM)Chappy Wrote:  Saw it last night. Enjoyed most of it, but there's one scene near the beginning that nearly ruined it for me. To avoid spoilers, I'll just say it involved Leia.

Which scene?

If its the one I'm thinking about. didn't bother me

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People nitpick too much. Scene explanation? She is a Skywalker.

Drops Mic

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Not a mic drop revelation, but congratulations on making yourself a d-bag. She's never shown more than an ability to have a slight telepathic connection to Luke. That is what should have been used in this instance. A call to someone telepathically who then rescues her. It would have fit better and not looked so fake and cheesy. We have spacesuits. Certainly they have spacesuits on board a starship and a cable/winch to go get her. That would have been more realistic and better explained the need for her to be hospitalized for most of the movie afterwards. I mean if you can force-fly through outer space, you can certainly force shield a little from the cold.

Pretty much agree 100%

(12-17-2017 12:08 PM)TTT Wrote:  This movie was terrible in almost every way. It's not "hate", it's stepping back and looking at it objectively.

Whoever directed Rogue One should've done the entire new trilogy.

But this is not the original trilogy, nor does it need to draw back to it. I was disappointed in the Force Awakens, because I literally felt at times like I was watching the script to Epsiode IV played out nearly 40 years later. I came into this expecting it to follow a format similar to Episode V, and am pleasantly surprised it didn't.

Skywalker was always going to die in this movie...you could tell that by the Title, but he didn't need to die like Kenobi did. That would have been extremely disappointing. Your trying to appease a different audience of moviegoers now than you were 40 years ago. You can't hide "Luke, I am your father" anymore. The internet would have leaked it months ago. There doesn't have to be some strange Twist. The point of Star Wars is that its supposed to be a battle between Light and Dark, and not all the parts of the light and dark have to be related.

The Maj scene was weird, but otherwise it was wonderful. They even brought Yoda back correctly to sort of foreshadow how Luke would meet his end. Luke was always more of a Yoda than a Ben, and he needed a more Yoda death.

Star Wars Fandom is sort of like America today: There are people who want to adapt and change to the way the times are now, and others who want to go back to the way life was years ago. In the end, neither side is wrong, but it's impossible to appease both sides. Eventually, Star Wars was going to have to change.

I've always felt like this trilogy intended to kill off Han Solo in VII, Luke Skywalker in VIII and Leia in IX. Obviously Carrie Fisher's death is going to change the way that IX was intended to occur, but in the end, the only people who are supposed to survive to the next set of sequels are the younger main characters of this film.

I actually thought Ren killing Snoke was an interesting way to go about it. The whole point of the Sith is that there is a Master and an Apprentice, and usually it ends with the Apprentice killing the Master to teach a new apprentice. I like how they teased that with Ren. He thought he saw his moment where he could unite with Rey to rule the galaxy, and made his move, but he read her wrong.

I also loved the fact that they used the kids in this movie to sort of set up where the spark of the light is. Point is, in the end there's always going to be someone else to take over. I hope they use them more in IX, but I fear Abrams will not.

I enjoyed it, but not as much as I wanted too. Some of the lines were just way too cheesy, even for me. I dunno. I've got more thoughts but I don't want to get too spoilery.

Actually, NVM. I'll go spoilery.

So, when Rose said the line "we're not going to win this battle by attacking who we hate, but saving who we love" and then the cannon goes off and hits the door, was I supposed to start laughing? Cause I was. The timing of the whole scene felt comedic but the tone was dramatic.

Why didn't Admiral Purple-Hair not tell Poe her plan??? It seems like telling her crew, the last part of the resistance, that there is a plan would help prevent panic and mutiny. I mean, Rose herself mentioned that people were trying to abandon ship.

When Finn said (something similar to): "Well at least we saved these animals, so it's worth it". ....... What??? Your friends are going to die, the resistance is going to get snuffed out and you're going to get captured and detained by a planet of arms dealers and saving a few racehorses is worth it? (Racehorses that'll probably just get recaptured and forced to race again)

And maybe it's just me, but it felt like there was soooooooooo much fan-service in this movie. I dunno, maybe I've just finally become an old old curmudgeon.

I've come to the conclusion that expecting any type of consistency or good story telling is hit or miss due to the fact that there are multiple storytellers in this universe. It's not like Tolkien and his world where his vision is in the body of works.

I think TFA and TLJ are bonafide Disney films. Full of cinematics, CGI, social justice warriors, and relevance. If you like all of those bundled in the star wars universe then Disney Star Wars is great for you. To me, the Disney Star Universe has a big asterisk next to it.

I'll continue to see these as I like the star wars world but there is a lot to be desired.

(12-18-2017 04:15 PM)johndavidblue Wrote:  I've come to the conclusion that expecting any type of consistency or good story telling is hit or miss due to the fact that there are multiple storytellers in this universe. It's not like Tolkien and his world where his vision is in the body of works.

I think TFA and TLJ are bonafide Disney films. Full of cinematics, CGI, social justice warriors, and relevance. If you like all of those bundled in the star wars universe then Disney Star Wars is great for you. To me, the Disney Star Universe has a big asterisk next to it.

I'll continue to see these as I like the star wars world but there is a lot to be desired.

Agreed with most of this. I left the theater last Thursday frustrated and trying not to be disappointed...almost trying to convince myself that it was a good movie. I eventually gave in to what I already knew...that Rian Johnson shouldn’t have written this.

Taking a quick look at the average of thousands of audience reviews backs up what a lot of people are saying on here. When’s the last time a Star Wars movie hovered around the 55% range in audience rating?

I mean...it's an average movie set in a cool world setting. It has some really fun scenes (throne room fight was very cool imo) and some really bad ones. The pacing of the movie itself was rather bad where as you could've cut out entire chunks of the movie as they were just giant filler that served no purpose.

And a few too many jokes during what should be emotional scenes that take you out of the movie imo





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The bottom line is that this film was a terrible sequel to The Force Awakens and an even worse middle-movie of a trilogy.

Hated it. I hate it because they completely squandered the potential from the Force Awakens. Imagine Michael Jordan passing you the ball for an easy slam dunk and you just throw the ball into the stands to do something different. That is what this movie felt like.