During the Clone Wars animated series I kept saying Obi Wan is a baaaad man..
Episode VI showed that Obi Wan still is a baaaad man... When he set up in his normal stance (I forget what fighting style it's called) I was like well here we go.
Episode didn't disappoint.. Also fixed a plot hole from A New Hope....
There were still way too many ridiculous plot holes. Too much of what we saw throughout the six parts came off as way too choregraphed rather than having a natural appeal or flow to it.
For a show that was focused on Obi-Wan and Darth Vader to not come out as an A++ you would almost have to try to intentionally screw it up. Yet even as much as I enjoyed seeing this snapshot of the time period between the Clone Wars and genesis of the original trilogy, it feels like a solid B maybe a B+ if you want to be generous.
The end was somewhat surprising. The light saber dual I thought was the best one so far (but shouldn't have been cutting away to the Third Sister chasing Luke during it - just stay with the dual). Also, I did not expect OW to defeat him again especially as strong as we see Vader just prior to this duel. Yet, he never finishes the job and eliminates Anakin. But then he acts like it's all over at the end. Which doesn't make sense because 1) he didn't kill Vader and 2) he knows the Emperor is still out there pulling strings.
So, happy we got it while knowing the Disney still continues to F with the franchise in ridiculous ways.
During the Clone Wars animated series I kept saying Obi Wan is a baaaad man..
Episode VI showed that Obi Wan still is a baaaad man... When he set up in his normal stance (I forget what fighting style it's called) I was like well here we go.
Episode didn't disappoint.. Also fixed a plot hole from A New Hope....
There were still way too many ridiculous plot holes. Too much of what we saw throughout the six parts came off as way too choregraphed rather than having a natural appeal or flow to it.
For a show that was focused on Obi-Wan and Darth Vader to not come out as an A++ you would almost have to try to intentionally screw it up. Yet even as much as I enjoyed seeing this snapshot of the time period between the Clone Wars and genesis of the original trilogy, it feels like a solid B maybe a B+ if you want to be generous.
The end was somewhat surprising. The light saber dual I thought was the best one so far (but shouldn't have been cutting away to the Third Sister chasing Luke during it - just stay with the dual). Also, I did not expect OW to defeat him again especially as strong as we see Vader just prior to this duel. Yet, he never finishes the job and eliminates Anakin. But then he acts like it's all over at the end. Which doesn't make sense because 1) he didn't kill Vader and 2) he knows the Emperor is still out there pulling strings.
So, happy we got it while knowing the Disney still continues to F with the franchise in ridiculous ways.
I think the reason why Kenobi doesn't dispatch with Vader is the same reason why he doesn't finish the job in RotS.. He can't bring himself to deliver the final death blow to his Padawan/Friend/Brother.
Again he done substantial damage and probably thinks Vader is done for anyway.
His mission though is not to destroy Vader.. His mission to guard Luke and train him when he's old enough.
During the Clone Wars animated series I kept saying Obi Wan is a baaaad man..
Episode VI showed that Obi Wan still is a baaaad man... When he set up in his normal stance (I forget what fighting style it's called) I was like well here we go.
Episode didn't disappoint.. Also fixed a plot hole from A New Hope....
There were still way too many ridiculous plot holes. Too much of what we saw throughout the six parts came off as way too choregraphed rather than having a natural appeal or flow to it.
For a show that was focused on Obi-Wan and Darth Vader to not come out as an A++ you would almost have to try to intentionally screw it up. Yet even as much as I enjoyed seeing this snapshot of the time period between the Clone Wars and genesis of the original trilogy, it feels like a solid B maybe a B+ if you want to be generous.
The end was somewhat surprising. The light saber dual I thought was the best one so far (but shouldn't have been cutting away to the Third Sister chasing Luke during it - just stay with the dual). Also, I did not expect OW to defeat him again especially as strong as we see Vader just prior to this duel. Yet, he never finishes the job and eliminates Anakin. But then he acts like it's all over at the end. Which doesn't make sense because 1) he didn't kill Vader and 2) he knows the Emperor is still out there pulling strings.
So, happy we got it while knowing the Disney still continues to F with the franchise in ridiculous ways.
I think the reason why Kenobi doesn't dispatch with Vader is the same reason why he doesn't finish the job in RotS.. He can't bring himself to deliver the final death blow to his Padawan/Friend/Brother.
Again he done substantial damage and probably thinks Vader is done for anyway.
His mission though is not to destroy Vader.. His mission to guard Luke and train him when he's old enough.
Mfer is definitely out of commission for a while. I loved how his voice went back and forth from Vader to Anakin as the modulator malfunctioned. You knew Obi was gonna win because a. he's still alive for ANH and b. they kept foreshadowing with training where Anakin would lose because he let his anger get the better of him. Main thing I really liked was how all of this let you know that he was not a weak old man in ANH and probably could have taken Vader in that fight, too, except for the fact that he would have sacrificed their mission and would have been no help to Luke. The distraction saved the day and gained him the ability to stay with Luke and help train him.
They also had the prophecy of the "chosen one" that was to bring back balance to the force. They know Anakin is that guy. It's more foreshadowing in hindsight that Vader admits he killed Anakin. Even he doesn't know there's still good in himself. I think Obi Won sensed it right then when Vader eased him of a lot of his guilt, rather than continuing to blame him. Vader seemed to want to finally beat Obi more than get revenge against him. He just wanted to win.
I don't know how anyone didn't like it. It was good entertainment if nothing else. I guess it's the in thing to be a critic and rip stuff apart, anymore. I'll probably watch Kenobi 3,5, and 6 about a hundred times over the summer. The story filler was good, too, but once you know that part there isn't much rewatch value.
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I think I've figured out the message paradox. She knows Ben and Obi Wan are the same person. What she doesn't know are the odds that the droids won't be caught by the Empire once she puts the massage and plans inside. Maybe Vader knows she's the little girl that they used for bait, likely he doesn't or the Inquisitor chick wasn't that specific about her plan to him. But if she admits she was that girl to R2 and then he's captured that could get back to Vader and puts her family at risk. She doesn't know at that point she will be captured and that it will lead to Alderon being destroyed, anyway. So her message puts distance between her and Obi Wan to protect everyone from Vader's wrath that she witnessed as child. Like he would stop at nothing if he knew she personally knew Obi Wan and his location. Makes more sense that way to me, anyhow. Like writing to a spy when you know there's a good chance the letter would be intercepted by the enemy. You're vague and enigmatic.
During the Clone Wars animated series I kept saying Obi Wan is a baaaad man..
Episode VI showed that Obi Wan still is a baaaad man... When he set up in his normal stance (I forget what fighting style it's called) I was like well here we go.
Episode didn't disappoint.. Also fixed a plot hole from A New Hope....
There were still way too many ridiculous plot holes. Too much of what we saw throughout the six parts came off as way too choregraphed rather than having a natural appeal or flow to it.
For a show that was focused on Obi-Wan and Darth Vader to not come out as an A++ you would almost have to try to intentionally screw it up. Yet even as much as I enjoyed seeing this snapshot of the time period between the Clone Wars and genesis of the original trilogy, it feels like a solid B maybe a B+ if you want to be generous.
The end was somewhat surprising. The light saber dual I thought was the best one so far (but shouldn't have been cutting away to the Third Sister chasing Luke during it - just stay with the dual). Also, I did not expect OW to defeat him again especially as strong as we see Vader just prior to this duel. Yet, he never finishes the job and eliminates Anakin. But then he acts like it's all over at the end. Which doesn't make sense because 1) he didn't kill Vader and 2) he knows the Emperor is still out there pulling strings.
So, happy we got it while knowing the Disney still continues to F with the franchise in ridiculous ways.
I think the reason why Kenobi doesn't dispatch with Vader is the same reason why he doesn't finish the job in RotS.. He can't bring himself to deliver the final death blow to his Padawan/Friend/Brother.
Again he done substantial damage and probably thinks Vader is done for anyway.
His mission though is not to destroy Vader.. His mission to guard Luke and train him when he's old enough.
Mfer is definitely out of commission for a while. I loved how his voice went back and forth from Vader to Anakin as the modulator malfunctioned. You knew Obi was gonna win because a. he's still alive for ANH and b. they kept foreshadowing with training where Anakin would lose because he let his anger get the better of him. Main thing I really liked was how all of this let you know that he was not a weak old man in ANH and probably could have taken Vader in that fight, too, except for the fact that he would have sacrificed their mission and would have been no help to Luke. The distraction saved the day and gained him the ability to stay with Luke and help train him.
They also had the prophecy of the "chosen one" that was to bring back balance to the force. They know Anakin is that guy. It's more foreshadowing in hindsight that Vader admits he killed Anakin. Even he doesn't know there's still good in himself. I think Obi Won sensed it right then when Vader eased him of a lot of his guilt, rather than continuing to blame him. Vader seemed to want to finally beat Obi more than get revenge against him. He just wanted to win.
I don't know how anyone didn't like it. It was good entertainment if nothing else. I guess it's the in thing to be a critic and rip stuff apart, anymore. I'll probably watch Kenobi 3,5, and 6 about a hundred times over the summer. The story filler was good, too, but once you know that part there isn't much rewatch value.
If you watched Rebels you saw the glimpse of Obi Wan there too with his battle against Maul.
But Maul had a comment about Luke...
IS he the Chosen One?
Vader unbalanced the Force. He turned light side, destroyed the emperor (or did he) and then died himself leaving it unbalanced.
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(06-25-2022 12:37 PM)MUther Wrote: I think I've figured out the message paradox. She knows Ben and Obi Wan are the same person. What she doesn't know are the odds that the droids won't be caught by the Empire once she puts the massage and plans inside. Maybe Vader knows she's the little girl that they used for bait, likely he doesn't or the Inquisitor chick wasn't that specific about her plan to him. But if she admits she was that girl to R2 and then he's captured that could get back to Vader and puts her family at risk. She doesn't know at that point she will be captured and that it will lead to Alderon being destroyed, anyway. So her message puts distance between her and Obi Wan to protect everyone from Vader's wrath that she witnessed as child. Like he would stop at nothing if he knew she personally knew Obi Wan and his location. Makes more sense that way to me, anyhow. Like writing to a spy when you know there's a good chance the letter would be intercepted by the enemy. You're vague and enigmatic.
This is a fantastic point. If she states like she knows him and the message is intercepted/stolen by the Empire it's a huge intelligence coup. So, certainly a plausible rationale to push back against a plot hole or lack of congruity. You could argue the Empire still knows their connection, but it's at least possible it's intended to throw them off in that scenario.
(This post was last modified: 06-27-2022 07:29 PM by ThreeifbyLightning.)
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this is a pretty good analysis of something we all think we know everything about...but there's still some surprises in there. I like how he gave repeated props to Marcia Lucas because the truth is without her editing magic, this movie would have been a mess...
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I haven't watched the fourth one yet but it felt like to me the first three were scene setters to help build background for Cassian - how and why - he ended like he did. Obviously, he was nothing more than a day laborer at that point when his sister went missing. So, hopefully now with that out of the way, we get into the nitty gritty spy stuff. With the show creator having been the screen writer for the Bourne Identity franchise, my expectation is for some parallels and for Andor to be very different than anything we've seen before in SW.
(This post was last modified: 09-30-2022 08:54 AM by ThreeifbyLightning.)
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(09-30-2022 01:24 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:
(09-29-2022 12:46 PM)GoodOwl Wrote: we'll see how much they woke this one up, too
Seriously???
...is exactly what most SW fans have been saying exiting theatres and after seeing most of Dizkneez versions... Makes the prequels watchable in some cases, which, I'll admit, is an accomplishment, but for the wrong reasons. I did enjoy "Solo" (and would like to see a sequel with the obvious dangling plotlines addressed--also, glad they made Han shoot first in that one to fix an egregious revision), and I liked "Rogue One", so I am interested in Cassian and how he got to be on Scarif with Jyn...it's the forced injection of previously unnecessary agendas that turn too many off from what should be enjoyable escapism.
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Rouge One was good. Andor, not so much. It moves slow, and I'm tired of watching rent-a-cops. I've watched all 4 episodes, but the story is still lacking. Bring in some storm troopers and a Wookie's in episode 5 or I'm done.
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