Should the AAC backfill with FAU and Southern Miss, or FAU and ULL?

USM and WKU, if Jeff Brohm stays , 2 CUSA schools getting Their act on track

Question, If the Big 12 suddenly needs to add 2 - 4 schools right away, would USF, Memphis, Houston and Cincinnati Jump ship right away and pay larger exit fees & fines or wait the 1.5 - 2 years needed to leave the AAC ? Like WVU did and to an extent TCU did from the Big East.

(12-16-2015 09:05 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  USM and WKU, if Jeff Brohm stays , 2 CUSA schools getting Their act on track

Yes, WKU is putting things together. But wouldn't the AAC want to replace their presence in Florida, and FAU would bring it into the Miami area.

(12-16-2015 09:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:05 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  USM and WKU, if Jeff Brohm stays , 2 CUSA schools getting Their act on track

Yes, WKU is putting things together. But wouldn't the AAC want to replace their presence in Florida, and FAU would bring it into the Miami area.

I think UCF would block Them to have a larger share of Florida recruits after the P5 Florida schools landed Theirs.

(12-16-2015 09:14 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:05 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  USM and WKU, if Jeff Brohm stays , 2 CUSA schools getting Their act on track

Yes, WKU is putting things together. But wouldn't the AAC want to replace their presence in Florida, and FAU would bring it into the Miami area.

I think UCF would block Them to have a larger share of Florida recruits after the P5 Florida schools landed Theirs.

That's a good point, but not sure it would carry the day. We're talking about a slim band of recruits here. Recruits that (a) aren't going to a P5, and (b) would have gone to UCF if FAU is in the Sun Belt but would go to FAU not UCF if FAU is in the AAC.

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(12-16-2015 09:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:05 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  USM and WKU, if Jeff Brohm stays , 2 CUSA schools getting Their act on track

Yes, WKU is putting things together. But wouldn't the AAC want to replace their presence in Florida, and FAU would bring it into the Miami area.

WKU only had 16k fans at the CUSA champ game they hosted. That's not super great.

When I read the title of this thread I pictured the Big 12 raiding USF and Memphis. Like a pirate(Maybe Leach comes back to the Big 12?)storming a ship.

(12-16-2015 09:30 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:05 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  USM and WKU, if Jeff Brohm stays , 2 CUSA schools getting Their act on track

Yes, WKU is putting things together. But wouldn't the AAC want to replace their presence in Florida, and FAU would bring it into the Miami area.

WKU only had 16k fans at the CUSA champ game they hosted. That's not super great.

No it isn't. But what available backfill team isn't going to have warts? The AAC isn't going to be choosing among FSU, Alabama, and Ohio State.

Just my 2 cents, since UCF is already in the Florida Market, would it not make since to open new markets? I still say ODU in VA and NIU for Chicago would be the smart play.

(12-16-2015 09:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:14 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:05 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  USM and WKU, if Jeff Brohm stays , 2 CUSA schools getting Their act on track

Yes, WKU is putting things together. But wouldn't the AAC want to replace their presence in Florida, and FAU would bring it into the Miami area.

I think UCF would block Them to have a larger share of Florida recruits after the P5 Florida schools landed Theirs.

That's a good point, but not sure it would carry the day. We're talking about a slim band of recruits here. Recruits that (a) aren't going to a P5, and (b) would have gone to UCF if FAU is in the Sun Belt but would go to FAU not UCF if FAU is in the AAC.

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Honestly this is the only reason FAU would be on the radar as well as a similar FIU role played. Both are still several years away from a higher elevated conference demographic like the AAC offers. Look how long USF has been trying , even with a stint in the BCS and a couple of down years getting back up, if not P5, The AAC is the next closest thing to it. Is FAU or FIU there yet ? Like I said WKU has had a long football History but right now Jeff Brohm is the deal maker here. If He goes P5, how will the next coach be ?

(12-16-2015 09:45 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:30 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:05 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  USM and WKU, if Jeff Brohm stays , 2 CUSA schools getting Their act on track

Yes, WKU is putting things together. But wouldn't the AAC want to replace their presence in Florida, and FAU would bring it into the Miami area.

WKU only had 16k fans at the CUSA champ game they hosted. That's not super great.

No it isn't. But what available backfill team isn't going to have warts? The AAC isn't going to be choosing among FSU, Alabama, and Ohio State.

We can find a replacement team that has more than 16K fans, or perhaps with deregulation, we won't need to add anyone. Staying at 10 might allow a slight bump in revenue. If we choose to replace any lost teams, my guess is we add based on athletic budget size and attempt to avoid CUSA adds to downplay the "CUSA 4.0" comparisons.

Actually, if USF and Memphis are raided, so the AAC is at 10/9, then is the time to offer Wichita State Bball-only if they set aside this notion of starting FB back up ... bring the conference up to 10/10.

(12-16-2015 10:17 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:45 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:30 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:05 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  USM and WKU, if Jeff Brohm stays , 2 CUSA schools getting Their act on track

Yes, WKU is putting things together. But wouldn't the AAC want to replace their presence in Florida, and FAU would bring it into the Miami area.

WKU only had 16k fans at the CUSA champ game they hosted. That's not super great.

No it isn't. But what available backfill team isn't going to have warts? The AAC isn't going to be choosing among FSU, Alabama, and Ohio State.

We can find a replacement team that has more than 16K fans, or perhaps with deregulation, we won't need to add anyone. Staying at 10 might allow a slight bump in revenue. If we choose to replace any lost teams, my guess is we add based on athletic budget size and attempt to avoid CUSA adds to downplay the "CUSA 4.0" comparisons.

I've gotta sneaky feeling that fairly soon, You Guys won't have to worry about that ! Herman staying...............Just sayin'

(12-16-2015 08:46 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Should the AAC backfill with FAU and Southern Miss, or FAU and ULL?

I think Southern Miss would be the next team they go after, depending on who is left, simply because nearly every team in the AAC has history with them, and Memphis, Cincinnati, and Houston literally founded a conference with them 20 years ago (where they were more or less the anchor football school). I know loyalty means nothing, but I just think they would be next... unless the two teams who left were Cincinnati and Memphis, who likely would be their biggest cheerleaders.

(12-16-2015 09:05 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  USM and WKU, if Jeff Brohm stays , 2 CUSA schools getting Their act on track

That is a turrible reason to pick a team. WKU does have a historically good basketball program, which is something that the AAC should not lose sight of, but the current coach, who has been there two years, is not a reason to make what should be decades long decisions.

(12-16-2015 10:51 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 08:46 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Should the AAC backfill with FAU and Southern Miss, or FAU and ULL?

I think Southern Miss would be the next team they go after, depending on who is left, simply because nearly every team in the AAC has history with them, and Memphis, Cincinnati, and Houston literally founded a conference with them 20 years ago (where they were more or less the anchor football school). I know loyalty means nothing, but I just think they would be next... unless the two teams who left were Cincinnati and Memphis, who likely would be their biggest cheerleaders.

(12-16-2015 09:05 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  USM and WKU, if Jeff Brohm stays , 2 CUSA schools getting Their act on track

That is a turrible reason to pick a team. WKU does have a historically good basketball program, which is something that the AAC should not lose sight of, but the current coach, who has been there two years, is not a reason to make what should be decades long decisions.

AD ,That wasn't to be a slap on WKU, not by a long shot. We, living here in Kentucky, have long known WKU always was a good sports school going way back to the old Ohio Valley conference days. The point of with Brohm there is that He is potentially a future top HC and getting WKU into the AAC gives WKU street creed immediately over other long term football programs like NIU, Marshall and La Tech among others. State flagship schools like UMass and such that would be in the running too. USM is the next #1 addition, I can't see Them out of it. The current WKU Taggart/Petrino/ Brohm mix is basically on fire and the recruiting is on track to be a consistent winner and hopefully the long range goal is to build upon it with a stadium expansion as seating is currently limited there. WKU is a program that just needs more national exposure.

So miss, Marshall, La Tech....FAU has a good market and stadium.

(12-16-2015 10:26 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  Actually, if USF and Memphis are raided, so the AAC is at 10/9, then is the time to offer Wichita State Bball-only if they set aside this notion of starting FB back up ... bring the conference up to 10/10.

In that scenario, wouldn't former Metro conference member, non-football aspirational, and more geographic friendly VCU make even more sense? Assuming they want to leave the A-10

(12-16-2015 10:17 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:45 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:30 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 09:05 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  USM and WKU, if Jeff Brohm stays , 2 CUSA schools getting Their act on track

Yes, WKU is putting things together. But wouldn't the AAC want to replace their presence in Florida, and FAU would bring it into the Miami area.

WKU only had 16k fans at the CUSA champ game they hosted. That's not super great.

No it isn't. But what available backfill team isn't going to have warts? The AAC isn't going to be choosing among FSU, Alabama, and Ohio State.

We can find a replacement team that has more than 16K fans, or perhaps with deregulation, we won't need to add anyone. Staying at 10 might allow a slight bump in revenue. If we choose to replace any lost teams, my guess is we add based on athletic budget size and attempt to avoid CUSA adds to downplay the "CUSA 4.0" comparisons.

Good point. If any two teams get raided away, the AAC might do well to remain at 10 teams. The $$$ are so small that the "raise" would be welcome.

But if a western team like Memphis leaves, I'm not sure we shouldn't take a good look at ULL. They have a good program, good fan support, and are in a football hotbed recruiting-wise and make a nice complement to Tulane.

(12-16-2015 10:51 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  That is a turrible reason to pick a team. WKU does have a historically good basketball program, which is something that the AAC should not lose sight of, but the current coach, who has been there two years, is not a reason to make what should be decades long decisions.

What you say makes sense, but so many around here seem to think otherwise. E.g., some have already said that because Houston is keeping their hot coach (at least for the time being) while Memphis has lost theirs, that suddenly Houston's chances of landing a Big 12 berth have gone up and Memphis's have gone down, as if something ephemeral like who the coach is makes a school more attractive. Or year to year record: Last year, UCF was at the top of everyone's Big 12 expansion list because their football team had some nice years. Now that they've gone off a cliff, nobody mentions them anymore.

Granted, coaches can and have stuck around long enough to become veritable institutions at some places. But i don't see that as being a major factor in conference membership decisions.