(12-28-2015 02:41 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 02:34 PM)CUSA_Fan Wrote:  Honestly I think it would be better off for Houston and SMU to join Rice and UTEP and head to the Mountain West and the AAC to call up Southern Miss, Marshall, WKU, MTSU, Toledo, and Northern Illinois. Pretty much kills off CUSA, the Sun Belt, and the MAC and makes the AAC and the MWC the 2 strongest G5 conferences

So you dilute your own product just to kill leagues that are barely competition to you? I guess the NBA needs to add half the Mexican League to kill off any fanbase and add any great players they have since they're close.

USFL?

(12-28-2015 02:45 PM)dave108 Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 02:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  find more west teams..sdsu never wanted to level, they still have 2 womens sports in the AAC..but they need western partners

what is the attraction / obsession about expanding to the west coast? I don't get a lot of things, and this is surely one of them.

Those schools make are league better.

The distance is definitely an issue to look at. If distance wasn't a factor I would say yes 100% add them. Great basketball program and an up and coming football program. Just what the AAC needs at this point. Also a great school academically.

(12-28-2015 02:45 PM)dave108 Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 02:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  find more west teams..sdsu never wanted to level, they still have 2 womens sports in the AAC..but they need western partners

what is the attraction / obsession about expanding to the west coast? I don't get a lot of things, and this is surely one of them.

To create a unique identity for a relatively new conference that has no real identity. As the country's only "nationwide" conference the AAC would be known for being a nationwide "best of the rest" conference rather than just another regional small school G5. It would be unique, and with a rooting interest in every region of the country, it would be an EXCELLENT media property for NATIONAL cable sports network.

sigh......

(12-28-2015 03:00 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  The distance is definitely an issue to look at. If distance wasn't a factor I would say yes 100% add them. Great basketball program and an up and coming football program. Just what the AAC needs at this point. Also a great school academically.

Decent school academically, not great. At the end of the day it is a Cal State school, not a UC school.

Also, to the OP, LOL at Qualcomm being an NFL quality stadium. If it were the Chargers wouldn't be trying to move.

SDSU needs a solid, 40K seater stadium with great amenities.

I'd love to be in a conference with SDSU but let's only add them if it makes significantly more sense than "Oh look, a shiny object!"

(12-28-2015 02:24 PM)CUSA_Fan Wrote:  Not everything is about money.

Mostly everything is, especially this.

(12-28-2015 03:12 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 03:00 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  The distance is definitely an issue to look at. If distance wasn't a factor I would say yes 100% add them. Great basketball program and an up and coming football program. Just what the AAC needs at this point. Also a great school academically.

Decent school academically, not great. At the end of the day it is a Cal State school, not a UC school.

Also, to the OP, LOL at Qualcomm being an NFL quality stadium. If it were the Chargers wouldn't be trying to move.

SDSU needs a solid, 40K seater stadium with great amenities.

I'd love to be in a conference with SDSU but let's only add them if it makes significantly more sense than "Oh look, a shiny object!"

Qualcomm is an NFL quality stadium, as much as Raymond James is.

(12-28-2015 01:46 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I think we need to be worried about San Diego State.

The best basketball program, the potential to be the best football program, with the most fans, the highest academics, in the best market of the MWC. I think, before the Wichita's and the UMass's and the ODU's or USM's of the CFB world, SDSU should be priority #1 for any expansion topic.

If the Chargers move to LA, that leaves an NFL quality stadium at the disposal of San Diego State, who's campus lies only 3 miles and is looking to acquire the stadium and surrounding land for campus expansion for not only Athletic endeavour, but academic as well. SDSU can be a juggernaut, and unless the dream scenario of the Big 12 dissolution occurs, I think the AAC should go all in with a joint pitch of BYU, AFA (FB only), CSU, and (the crown jewel) SDSU, with San Diego's choice of two Oly sport travel partners (no idea who they would be).

If SDSU is all that would they not be readying themselves for a P5 conference that doesn't involve travel across the country?

(12-28-2015 02:45 PM)dave108 Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 02:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  find more west teams..sdsu never wanted to level, they still have 2 womens sports in the AAC..but they need western partners

what is the attraction / obsession about expanding to the west coast? I don't get a lot of things, and this is surely one of them.

UCF and USF seem to be doing fine being located in a very populated state but they face one roadblock SDSU doesn't, nor Fresno for that matter. Which is that the only power conference in California is the Pac-12 whereas both the SEC and ACC have a foothold in Florida.

UCLA and particularly USC are followed all over the bottom half of California. Nevertheless, SDSU has the only FBS football program in San Diego county, with a population of 3.2M, and there are no FBS schools in Orange county and Riverside county, both of which are contiguous to SD county and which have populations of 3.1M and 2.2M.

SDSU has a great hoops rivalry with UNLV and a great football rivalry with Fresno. However, particularly with football, nobody in SD cares a whit about other MW schools. (San Diegans might care about SJSU if the Spartans weren't so awful at everything.) My wife is from Cheyenne and country folk are good people. However, they are simply different. It's not so much the mile-high plus locations of the Front Range as it is culture. SD is not now nor has it ever been part of the Wild West so you'll see more cowboy boots in Laramie, Ft. Collins or Albuquerque than you'll see in SD in a week. There are reasons those locations are growing at a snail's pace whereas Southern California and the San Joaquin Valley where Fresno is situated have been growing by leaps and bounds.

(12-28-2015 03:20 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 03:12 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 03:00 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  The distance is definitely an issue to look at. If distance wasn't a factor I would say yes 100% add them. Great basketball program and an up and coming football program. Just what the AAC needs at this point. Also a great school academically.

Decent school academically, not great. At the end of the day it is a Cal State school, not a UC school.

Also, to the OP, LOL at Qualcomm being an NFL quality stadium. If it were the Chargers wouldn't be trying to move.

SDSU needs a solid, 40K seater stadium with great amenities.

I'd love to be in a conference with SDSU but let's only add them if it makes significantly more sense than "Oh look, a shiny object!"

Qualcomm is an NFL quality stadium, as much as Raymond James is.

I've never been to RJS but unless the front row of seats is 50 yards away from the sideline and at an elevation rendering any view of the field impossible, it's better than Qualcomm

The State of California will be the 1st State to make Tackle Football Illegal in High School.

Pass

(12-28-2015 03:00 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  The distance is definitely an issue to look at. If distance wasn't a factor I would say yes 100% add them. Great basketball program and an up and coming football program. Just what the AAC needs at this point. Also a great school academically.

The geography is why the only way it would work is for the AAC to create a western division. As to SDSU's academics, I just checked and was surprised to learn that similar to Boise, USNWR considers Memphis to be merely on the cusp of being a national university. SDSU, OTOH, is now tied with Oklahoma State at 149 nationally ahead of a number of P5 schools.

(12-28-2015 03:34 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 03:20 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 03:12 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 03:00 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  The distance is definitely an issue to look at. If distance wasn't a factor I would say yes 100% add them. Great basketball program and an up and coming football program. Just what the AAC needs at this point. Also a great school academically.

Decent school academically, not great. At the end of the day it is a Cal State school, not a UC school.

Also, to the OP, LOL at Qualcomm being an NFL quality stadium. If it were the Chargers wouldn't be trying to move.

SDSU needs a solid, 40K seater stadium with great amenities.

I'd love to be in a conference with SDSU but let's only add them if it makes significantly more sense than "Oh look, a shiny object!"

Qualcomm is an NFL quality stadium, as much as Raymond James is.

I've never been to RJS but unless the front row of seats is 50 yards away from the sideline and at an elevation rendering any view of the field impossible, it's better than Qualcomm

the upper deck at RJS feels 5 miles from the Field. I prefer Dolphins Stadium even though it's older

(12-28-2015 03:12 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 03:00 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  The distance is definitely an issue to look at. If distance wasn't a factor I would say yes 100% add them. Great basketball program and an up and coming football program. Just what the AAC needs at this point. Also a great school academically.

Decent school academically, not great. At the end of the day it is a Cal State school, not a UC school.

Also, to the OP, LOL at Qualcomm being an NFL quality stadium. If it were the Chargers wouldn't be trying to move.

SDSU needs a solid, 40K seater stadium with great amenities.

I'd love to be in a conference with SDSU but let's only add them if it makes significantly more sense than "Oh look, a shiny object!"

The 9 UC schools not named UC Merced, which has only been open half a dozen years or so, are all rated in the top 35 or so in the country so it's certainly no embarrassment to be a second class citizen compared to them. And I acknowledge your school has considerably better academics than SDSU but so does Rice. Is the AAC considering adding the Owls?

(12-28-2015 03:34 PM)knightastic Wrote:  The State of California will be the 1st State to make Tackle Football Illegal in High School.

Pass

I'll predict California will have the first state legislature to consider that. I'll also predict it will therefore become the first state to reject the idea.

If you Google Jackie Goldberg, you'll find the former member of the legislature who wanted to force SDSU to cease calling itself the Aztecs. She once sponsored a bill to do that and to ban use of the nickname for all state high schools but it died in committee. You won't find any public schools in California which are still called the Redskins but that's about as far as the legislature has gone.

BTW, I'm sure Jackie's political correctness had nothing to do with her being a Jewish lesbian.

(12-28-2015 03:48 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 03:34 PM)knightastic Wrote:  The State of California will be the 1st State to make Tackle Football Illegal in High School.

Pass

I'll predict California will have the first state legislature to consider that. I'll also predict it will therefore become the first state to reject the idea.

If you Google Jackie Goldberg, you'll find the former member of the legislature who wanted to force SDSU to cease calling itself the Aztecs. She once sponsored a bill to do that and to ban use of the nickname for all state high schools but it died in committee. You won't find any public schools in California which are still called the Redskins but that's about as far as the legislature has gone.

BTW, I'm sure Jackie's political correctness had nothing to do with her being a Jewish lesbian.

it was just a little jab and I don't want to hijack the thread into politics but it wouldn't shock me if it was the first State to at least put it up for a Vote

(12-28-2015 03:42 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 03:12 PM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 03:00 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  The distance is definitely an issue to look at. If distance wasn't a factor I would say yes 100% add them. Great basketball program and an up and coming football program. Just what the AAC needs at this point. Also a great school academically.

Decent school academically, not great. At the end of the day it is a Cal State school, not a UC school.

Also, to the OP, LOL at Qualcomm being an NFL quality stadium. If it were the Chargers wouldn't be trying to move.

SDSU needs a solid, 40K seater stadium with great amenities.

I'd love to be in a conference with SDSU but let's only add them if it makes significantly more sense than "Oh look, a shiny object!"

The 9 UC schools not named UC Merced, which has only been open half a dozen years or so, are all rated in the top 35 or so in the country so it's certainly no embarrassment to be a second class citizen compared to them. And I acknowledge your school has considerably better academics than SDSU but so does Rice. Is the AAC considering adding the Owls?

Rice has phenomenal academics but we wouldn't look to add them as we already capture the Houston market.

Half the AAC has solidly better academics than SDSU (in addition to SMU: UConn, Tulane, Tulsa, Navy, and an argument could be made for others as well including UH, UCF, UC, etc. - if I left your school out, my apologies, it wasn't intentional).

The problem with being a Cal State school is that the resources all go to UC and even more so as California's budget continues to be crunched.

But selfishly I would love SDSU and SMU to be in the same conference. I spend a lot of time out in SD for work and love traveling out there

Cal State at San Diego would be a good addition it would also help us in recruiting the west coast.
I believe that an all sports invite would help basketball