(02-06-2016 08:09 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(02-06-2016 06:21 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-06-2016 05:57 PM)PAmedic Wrote:  Sports. Message. Board.

I hope Curtis weighs in. From his previous posts, he seems to believe that actions of the school effect the quality of his degree, and indirectly, athletics.

When the Chancellor makes a press conference making national news, it effects all aspects of the university, for better or worse.

I fully believe actions of the president effect the utility of my degree. I also think how well a school's sports team does effects name recognition. Also the academic profile of any school is a factor in realignment. School presidents are the ones that do the voting not the AD's or coaches they seem to lean toward letting academic peers into their conference. When a conference gets poached to death all that goes out the window but usually that's the way it is.

To comment on the "Sports. Message. Board." He's right this is exactly that and while talking about a school's academics has its place, sports is the main focus. But this thread was started because newtimes didn't like what the pres said and decided to lay low for awhile. This had no impact on the current sports season. Thus this thread about casual fans, cray cray presidents, academics and alumni degree utility is appropriate.

Agreed. And that's exactly while I included my comment within this existing thread rather starting another one.

(02-06-2016 08:17 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

Quote:As you know, Liberty University does not support or oppose candidates for public office, and Mr. Trump’s appearance here should not be interpreted by any as an endorsement by Liberty. We have invited the other candidates for president from both the Republican and Democratic parties.

http://www.liberty.edu/media/1617/2016/j...ion-00.pdf

I don't know where Jerry Falwell endorsed Trump and I don't particularly care. He can vote for whoever he wants and endorse whoever he wants as long as he doesn't make it a "Liberty endorsement." This is a non-issue for me.

In case you missed this, here is a Washington Post link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...ses-trump/

EDIT: I believe the above link expired, here is a similar report from Politicio: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/je...ump-218238

(02-06-2016 10:02 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-06-2016 08:17 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

Quote:As you know, Liberty University does not support or oppose candidates for public office, and Mr. Trump’s appearance here should not be interpreted by any as an endorsement by Liberty. We have invited the other candidates for president from both the Republican and Democratic parties.

http://www.liberty.edu/media/1617/2016/j...ion-00.pdf

I don't know where Jerry Falwell endorsed Trump and I don't particularly care. He can vote for whoever he wants and endorse whoever he wants as long as he doesn't make it a "Liberty endorsement." This is a non-issue for me.

In case you missed this, here is a Washington Post link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...ses-trump/

EDIT: I believe the above link expired, here is a similar report from Politicio: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/je...ump-218238

Thanks for the links. I see that Jr. did endorse Trump and I don't endorse him (as if my endorsement means anything) but Jerry has a right to his opinion whether I agree with it or not. I doubt this effects our FBS aspirations at all. It certainly is less impactful than our recent reclassification by the Carnegie Foundation (or whomever) that really will benefit us.

(02-06-2016 10:17 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(02-06-2016 10:02 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-06-2016 08:17 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

Quote:As you know, Liberty University does not support or oppose candidates for public office, and Mr. Trump’s appearance here should not be interpreted by any as an endorsement by Liberty. We have invited the other candidates for president from both the Republican and Democratic parties.

http://www.liberty.edu/media/1617/2016/j...ion-00.pdf

I don't know where Jerry Falwell endorsed Trump and I don't particularly care. He can vote for whoever he wants and endorse whoever he wants as long as he doesn't make it a "Liberty endorsement." This is a non-issue for me.

In case you missed this, here is a Washington Post link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...ses-trump/

EDIT: I believe the above link expired, here is a similar report from Politicio: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/je...ump-218238

Thanks for the links. I see that Jr. did endorse Trump and I don't endorse him (as if my endorsement means anything) but Jerry has a right to his opinion whether I agree with it or not. I doubt this effects our FBS aspirations at all. It certainly is less impactful than our recent reclassification by the Carnegie Foundation (or whomever) that really will benefit us.

It's still a stretch for me to see how it benefits LU. Seems to benefit Jr. more so if any. Reminds me of when Sr. was gaining national recognition.

(02-06-2016 10:25 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-06-2016 10:17 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(02-06-2016 10:02 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-06-2016 08:17 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

Quote:As you know, Liberty University does not support or oppose candidates for public office, and Mr. Trump’s appearance here should not be interpreted by any as an endorsement by Liberty. We have invited the other candidates for president from both the Republican and Democratic parties.

http://www.liberty.edu/media/1617/2016/j...ion-00.pdf

I don't know where Jerry Falwell endorsed Trump and I don't particularly care. He can vote for whoever he wants and endorse whoever he wants as long as he doesn't make it a "Liberty endorsement." This is a non-issue for me.

In case you missed this, here is a Washington Post link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...ses-trump/

EDIT: I believe the above link expired, here is a similar report from Politicio: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/je...ump-218238

Thanks for the links. I see that Jr. did endorse Trump and I don't endorse him (as if my endorsement means anything) but Jerry has a right to his opinion whether I agree with it or not. I doubt this effects our FBS aspirations at all. It certainly is less impactful than our recent reclassification by the Carnegie Foundation (or whomever) that really will benefit us.

It's still a stretch for me to see how it benefits LU. Seems to benefit Jr. more so if any. Reminds me of when Sr. was gaining national recognition.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your response but I didn't intend to make it sound like Liberty was benefiting from Jerry's endorsement of Trump, or that Jerry was benefiting. I meant that any harm done by Jerry's comments were much less consequential than the recent results of this study (link provided by Curtisc83):

(02-04-2016 02:25 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  Liberty makes big move academically in new college listing

February 4, 2016 : Liberty University News Service
Liberty University has moved up to the Doctoral Universities level in a recent listing from the Carnegie Foundation, placing it among only 335 universities in the country to receive the designation and further recognizing Liberty’s commitment to academic excellence.

The Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education serves as a national framework for classifying colleges and universities, primarily for educational and research purposes. The listings shape how more than 4,660 post-secondary institutions across the country are viewed by independent analysts, government officials, and academic groups. U.S. News & World Report relies on the classifications for its annual “Best Colleges” ranking; it is expected that U.S. News will now list Liberty as a “national university” rather than a “regional university.”

http://www.liberty.edu/news/?MID=182735

(02-06-2016 10:37 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(02-06-2016 10:25 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-06-2016 10:17 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(02-06-2016 10:02 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-06-2016 08:17 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  http://www.liberty.edu/media/1617/2016/j...ion-00.pdf

I don't know where Jerry Falwell endorsed Trump and I don't particularly care. He can vote for whoever he wants and endorse whoever he wants as long as he doesn't make it a "Liberty endorsement." This is a non-issue for me.

In case you missed this, here is a Washington Post link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...ses-trump/

EDIT: I believe the above link expired, here is a similar report from Politicio: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/je...ump-218238

Thanks for the links. I see that Jr. did endorse Trump and I don't endorse him (as if my endorsement means anything) but Jerry has a right to his opinion whether I agree with it or not. I doubt this effects our FBS aspirations at all. It certainly is less impactful than our recent reclassification by the Carnegie Foundation (or whomever) that really will benefit us.

It's still a stretch for me to see how it benefits LU. Seems to benefit Jr. more so if any. Reminds me of when Sr. was gaining national recognition.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your response but I didn't intend to make it sound like Liberty was benefiting from Jerry's endorsement of Trump, or that Jerry was benefiting. I meant that any harm done by Jerry's comments were much less consequential than the recent results of this study (link provided by Curtisc83):

(02-04-2016 02:25 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  Liberty makes big move academically in new college listing

February 4, 2016 : Liberty University News Service
Liberty University has moved up to the Doctoral Universities level in a recent listing from the Carnegie Foundation, placing it among only 335 universities in the country to receive the designation and further recognizing Liberty’s commitment to academic excellence.

The Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education serves as a national framework for classifying colleges and universities, primarily for educational and research purposes. The listings shape how more than 4,660 post-secondary institutions across the country are viewed by independent analysts, government officials, and academic groups. U.S. News & World Report relies on the classifications for its annual “Best Colleges” ranking; it is expected that U.S. News will now list Liberty as a “national university” rather than a “regional university.”

http://www.liberty.edu/news/?MID=182735

The Carnegie mention is very good for the school. Those recognitions will go a long way to the academia prez in helping LU gain academic acceptance. My comment was not in response to your post but rather how it was of any benefit. Other than maybe Jr. maybe being sucked into the political vacuum that can be seductive.