(03-12-2016 10:08 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 09:28 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  F UCF

I kinda wish there was a mutual benefit to a series between us, just for an excuse to beat you guys yearly again.

If we had played last year, somehow, some way, we would have been 1-11 instead of 0-12.

Very true....the football gods always make sure we get that Marshall win.

(03-12-2016 08:30 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 08:08 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 05:22 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 02:50 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  It's hilarious to me how many usm fans say they don't want to be in the AAC, but yet whenever something like this pops up they lose their minds with excitement.

But... I will be the first to say, I would be extremely disappointed to lose usm to the AAC

IT's not a case of not taking an invite.. but as a fan, I honestly don't care anymore. If we go great, we renew some old rivalries.

If not, we sit right here and we make work with our current rivalries and make some new ones.

^^^

that and it would give us another home game at Tulane.....

I'm indifferent relative to the matter at this point...

and to Andre's point above, it's good to see him out and about.....

also, if it were to happen, I would hope we would be able to retain OOC relationships with Tech (assuming they don't also get chosen), UAB, and Marshall unlike what ECU and MEM have displayed to date....(no disrespect meant towards other current CUSA members)

Notice the article that said Tulane supports us. The NEED us right now. One thing that hasnt changed with this group of schools is no one travels well at all. Tulane has a new erector set that it cant fill. They need us to fill it for them one every other year.
Plus they need a baseball school. Our attendance a year ago would have been number 1 in the aac.

agree...and we need them too....just b/c a handful of tulane folks that post here and make arses out of themselves doesn't discount that...

sometimes it's a good thing to be hated.....

regardless and as a fan of sport, realignment has left a bad taste in my mouth as did the first and subsequent mlb baseball strike....it takes time to get back in the swing of enjoying something that was once pure

Just say no to the AAC.

ODU fans' AAC expansion suggestion list:

1. ODU
2. Middle Tennessee (if ODU is not invited)
68. (tie). Everyone else
100,000,001. Middle Tennessee (if ODU is invited)

(03-12-2016 02:51 PM)BlazintheATL Wrote:  Anyone (especially any CUSA holdover) who says they don't want to be in the AAC is likely full of ****.

I'm not obsessed with the AAC. I am obsessed with getting out of this dumpster fire called CUSA.

I would be just as happy with a quality 10 team conference that doesn't include a single AAC team.

(03-12-2016 10:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 10:08 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 09:28 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  F UCF

I kinda wish there was a mutual benefit to a series between us, just for an excuse to beat you guys yearly again.

If we had played last year, somehow, some way, we would have been 1-11 instead of 0-12.

Very true....the football gods always make sure we get that Marshall win.

Just a friendly reminder, we have helped contribute to a winless UCF football season.

http://www.ucffootballschedule.com/schedule/2004.php

(03-13-2016 01:21 AM)Noodles Wrote:  Just say no to the AAC.

We'd be committing football suicide if we did. If you get the invite, you take it. I don't care what biased standpoint we have on this board, outsider perception says AAC is better. If you ever want to get to the top, you have to take every opportunity.

(03-13-2016 11:05 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 01:21 AM)Noodles Wrote:  Just say no to the AAC.

We'd be committing football suicide if we did. If you get the invite, you take it. I don't care what biased standpoint we have on this board, outsider perception says AAC is better. If you ever want to get to the top, you have to take every opportunity.

Please explain how getting into another G5 conference is getting to the top.

These guys will slit our throats at the first, and each subsequent, opportunity. You know this.
Hell with them.

(03-12-2016 07:43 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 04:57 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  It's going to come down to similar budget to the AAC schools and academics... That is who will get the nod

Yes, exactly. Budgets, budgets, budgets.

If it is all about Budgets, why didnt ULL get the CUSA invite?

Tech was chosen over ULL for CUSA, now you post irrevelant rambling posts on the CUSA board because ULL was jilted, left behind in the Sunbelt, and Tech is moving forward in a better Athletic Conference.

There is no need to make every thread a Tech vs ULL. Tech has move on from ULL, you should do the same.

I could see USM getting the nod for the AAC. I dont see any of the new startsup in the conversation at all, and that actually really discredits this article. Most people don't even know Charlotte, UTSA and ODU play football. Not to down these schools but that is the perception that fans across the country have with these new start-ups

(03-13-2016 11:39 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 11:05 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 01:21 AM)Noodles Wrote:  Just say no to the AAC.

We'd be committing football suicide if we did. If you get the invite, you take it. I don't care what biased standpoint we have on this board, outsider perception says AAC is better. If you ever want to get to the top, you have to take every opportunity.

Please explain how getting into another G5 conference is getting to the top.

You can't get to the top of the staircase except by going up one step at a time. The AAC, no matter how much you may hate them, is that next step.

(03-12-2016 07:19 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 04:31 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 02:25 PM)johndavidblue Wrote:  It would be a great opportunity to add ULL.

Why wouldn't the AAC just add LA Tech?

Hey Guys! Since we've been mentioned a few times in this thread, and a few of the ltur3 fellas have expressed their opinions, thought you might like to have a few facts brought forth, so a more informed opinion can be made, lol:



1. No, ltur3 does not travel well.....to their own venues....much less outside Ruston. The most current state budgets back this fact up:

Total Ticket Sales:
Ltur3: 1,723,061
UL: 2,992,952 (2,008,725, FB alone)

In other words, our FB sales alone outsell all of their other sports, combinded.

2. Whatever success is happening on the FB field is also not helping the bottom line:

Program, novelty, parking + Royalties, licensing, ads:
Ltur3: 134,767 + 290,213 = 424,980
UL: 670,257 + 948,931 = 1,619,188

https://app.lla.state.la.us/PublicReport...00CA4C.pdf

https://app.lla.state.la.us/PublicReport...00C7A4.pdf

3. Ltur3's credit rating has been recently downgraded to A3, which is below our and ULM's A2. And further downgrading is likely.

"Each university’s ability to adjust to the budget cuts and potential enrollment volatility will be evaluated as the creditor decides whether campuses’ financial expectations should be lowered. Reliance on state funding, expense flexibility, pricing power, strength of cash flow, and liquidity will factor into our assessment of ratings and outlooks for each university."

http://theadvocate.com/news/14966384-123...downgrades

4. Given the on-going budget crisis, the 'creative' accounting practices that ltur3 has been using to hide the true costs of their athletic programs will continue to come under scrutiny. This will no doubt have a negative impact on their already dismal budget numbers.

"Some schools charge athletic salaries to other departments, non-athletic departments. This year La. Tech budgeted $727,151 in athletic salaries to non-athletic departments. If the state didn't allow that, (ltur3) would be over the maximum allowed to supplement athletics."

http://www.fox8live.com/story/31259464/z...s-spending

5. I believe we have already discussed the recent downgrading of ltur3's Carnegie classification from R2 to R3....so that they are at the same level of ULM; UL remains an R2. We've also noted that the CC comes out only once every five years, where as the USNWR's tier rating is annual.....and that there are no other public universities are R3 and T1. So the next five years ought to be very interesting in regards to ltur3's T1 status.

As I said....If we are going to compare the two programs, I just wanted to give a more accurate portrait.

I don't understand the pejorative? Louisiana Tech University Ruston 3?

Oh, I just got it, I think, as I was highlighting every instance of it. Something to do with their Carnegie classification? Cool story, bro. Their football wins didn't just get vacated, so there's that...

(03-13-2016 12:07 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 07:43 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 04:57 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  It's going to come down to similar budget to the AAC schools and academics... That is who will get the nod

Yes, exactly. Budgets, budgets, budgets.

If it is all about Budgets, why didnt ULL get the CUSA invite?

Tech was chosen over ULL for CUSA, now you post irrevelant rambling posts on the CUSA board because ULL was jilted, left behind in the Sunbelt, and Tech is moving forward in a better Athletic Conference.

There is no need to make every thread a Tech vs ULL. Tech has move on from ULL, you should do the same.

It is about what ever the person needs to dream up to justify their argument. Truth is not a single one of them have a clue as to what goes on.

From the standpoint of a Memphis fan, I would look forward to renewing the series with USM in both basketball and basketball. I could say the same about UAB, but their prez killed that idea when he killed their football program.

But from the perspective of the AAC, I think the league ought to stay pat with no additions if possible. Even with a team or two leaving, adding more imho creates more instability, when they should just build on what they've got.

(03-13-2016 02:17 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  From the standpoint of a Memphis fan, I would look forward to renewing the series with USM in both basketball and basketball. I could say the same about UAB, but their prez killed that idea when he killed their football program.

But from the perspective of the AAC, I think the league ought to stay pat with no additions if possible. Even with a team or two leaving, adding more imho creates more instability, when they should just build on what they've got.

What everyone needs to really do is sit tight. While the attention has been on the b12 there is a even more dangerous storm brewing in that the b10 may gut the acc. How long have we seen predictions that either the b12 or the acc would be swallowed up? With the b10 contract coming up it could be time for that.

(03-13-2016 12:07 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 07:43 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 04:57 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  It's going to come down to similar budget to the AAC schools and academics... That is who will get the nod

Yes, exactly. Budgets, budgets, budgets.

If it is all about Budgets, why didnt ULL get the CUSA invite?

Tech was chosen over ULL for CUSA, now you post irrevelant rambling posts on the CUSA board because ULL was jilted, left behind in the Sunbelt, and Tech is moving forward in a better Athletic Conference.

There is no need to make every thread a Tech vs ULL. Tech has move on from ULL, you should do the same.

LOL. You might have a semblance of credibility that "Tech has move on from ULL" if you hadn't first brought us up.....for no reason....in your post.

Our school was mentioned favorably, and of course you guys just could not let that happen. My response was not irrelevant or rambling, and would not have been made at all if you hadn't done so.

I simply posted factual items that painted a more accurate portrait of the current standings of your athletic budget and academic standing. Since you could not refute them you resulted in personal attacks against me.

And FYI: at the time that cusa was last considering additions, our budget was about half of what it is now. We have more than doubled it in the last 4-5 years. I'll let you address, if you care to, what your budget growth been like in the same period.

(03-13-2016 02:42 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 12:07 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 07:43 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 04:57 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  It's going to come down to similar budget to the AAC schools and academics... That is who will get the nod

Yes, exactly. Budgets, budgets, budgets.

If it is all about Budgets, why didnt ULL get the CUSA invite?

Tech was chosen over ULL for CUSA, now you post irrevelant rambling posts on the CUSA board because ULL was jilted, left behind in the Sunbelt, and Tech is moving forward in a better Athletic Conference.

There is no need to make every thread a Tech vs ULL. Tech has move on from ULL, you should do the same.

LOL. You might have a semblance of credibility that "Tech has move on from ULL" if you hadn't first brought us up.....for no reason....in your post.

Our school was mentioned favorably, and of course you guys just could not let that happen. My response was not irrelevant or rambling, and would not have been made at all if you hadn't done so.

I simply posted factual items that painted a more accurate portrait of the current standings of your athletic budget and academic standing. Since you could not refute them you resulted in personal attacks against me.

And FYI: at the time that cusa was last considering additions, our budget was about half of what it is now. We have more than doubled it in the last 4-5 years. I'll let you address, if you care to, what your budget growth been like in the same period.

Please point to where I mentioned ULL before that post and before you posted several posts and a rambling novel about Tech. Did you forget this CUSA board?

(03-13-2016 04:04 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 02:42 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 12:07 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 07:43 PM)LaCajunsFan Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 04:57 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  It's going to come down to similar budget to the AAC schools and academics... That is who will get the nod

Yes, exactly. Budgets, budgets, budgets.

If it is all about Budgets, why didnt ULL get the CUSA invite?

Tech was chosen over ULL for CUSA, now you post irrevelant rambling posts on the CUSA board because ULL was jilted, left behind in the Sunbelt, and Tech is moving forward in a better Athletic Conference.

There is no need to make every thread a Tech vs ULL. Tech has move on from ULL, you should do the same.

LOL. You might have a semblance of credibility that "Tech has move on from ULL" if you hadn't first brought us up.....for no reason....in your post.

Our school was mentioned favorably, and of course you guys just could not let that happen. My response was not irrelevant or rambling, and would not have been made at all if you hadn't done so.

I simply posted factual items that painted a more accurate portrait of the current standings of your athletic budget and academic standing. Since you could not refute them you resulted in personal attacks against me.

And FYI: at the time that cusa was last considering additions, our budget was about half of what it is now. We have more than doubled it in the last 4-5 years. I'll let you address, if you care to, what your budget growth been like in the same period.

Please point to where I mentioned ULL before that post and before you posted several posts and a rambling novel about Tech. Did you forget this CUSA board?

Let me clarify: I said 'you,' meaning the ltur3 fans, not necessarily you specifically.
In other words, you claimed the you guys have moved on, so I was pointing out that that is disputed by the silly posts that were made about us before mine.

And yes, this is the cusa board.....the cusa board that is having a conference realignment discussion, where my school was mentioned. So fair game for our fans to respond. Even so, I would not have responded if the discussion had remained been fair and unbiased.

(03-13-2016 10:52 AM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 10:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 10:08 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-12-2016 09:28 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  F UCF

I kinda wish there was a mutual benefit to a series between us, just for an excuse to beat you guys yearly again.

If we had played last year, somehow, some way, we would have been 1-11 instead of 0-12.

Very true....the football gods always make sure we get that Marshall win.

Just a friendly reminder, we have helped contribute to a winless UCF football season.

http://www.ucffootballschedule.com/schedule/2004.php

and you guys' never won again.