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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
I'm wondering where the visiting team's locker rooms will be. Any ideas?
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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
(08-10-2017 02:41 PM)NewTimes Wrote: And to think a few years ago LU was using the visitors locker room and visiting teams were using locker facilities in old nearby buildings. I remember rumblings about 12-15 years ago that App St would not come to LU unless the visiting lockers were upgraded. How things have changed. And as renderings go, these look very nice.
speaking about that. fun fact, they still have the amendment to never play Liberty in any sports. It's from 2001 when Doc made the infamous 9/11 comment.
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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
I really like the latest revealed stadium plans, but not so much the discovered plans. I hope our fan base grows to overflow the seating. Slyfox mentioned about McCaw's plan to limit the growth of the stadium to have limited seats to create a higher demand and higher prices and I think that would be counter to Dr. Falwell, Sr.'s vision of Liberty. Obviously we don't have to do everything the way he would have wanted; it isn't Falwell University after all. However, I do agree with him that Liberty should be trying to be more accessible for more people (without compromising Biblical teachings) so that Liberty can reach more people. I know it is just a football stadium and it isn't good business, but I wish Liberty would build enough seats for everyone to have one who wanted one even with the probability there would be empty seats most weeks.
As for the design, I really hope they build it in a way to give us a home field advantage. I know we have the best stadium in the Big South in a huge landslide, but I think any legal and moral advantage we can make for ourselves then we should go after it. I know the Seattle Seahawks built their stadium to get loud and it has an impact.
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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
(08-10-2017 08:16 PM)LibertyOrangeman Wrote: (08-10-2017 02:41 PM)NewTimes Wrote: And to think a few years ago LU was using the visitors locker room and visiting teams were using locker facilities in old nearby buildings. I remember rumblings about 12-15 years ago that App St would not come to LU unless the visiting lockers were upgraded. How things have changed. And as renderings go, these look very nice.
In the 90's when I started at LU, the now-removed visitors locker rooms was the LU locker rooms. Where the FOC is in the north end zone was an ugly gravel lot with a wonderful view of the Ericcson plant. Upon on the hill next to that gravel lot, the visiting team went into an oversized aluminum garden shed. I remember Dr. Falwell in chapel lamenting "that teams wouldn't play us because we're Christian," and I'd be thinking, "No. It's because you put them in a shed." We have come a really long way.
I remember that also. It was quite a haul for visiting team to trek to the stadium. And now to see the renderings show the first phase of expansion and it looks very nice. This is interesting how JMU decided to build half of their stadium while LU is building it the opposite, in "full designs" with expansion. Must have been a financial thing. And the Bill will look very nice in the picturesque setting it is in with the mountains in the background. Very nice.
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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
(08-11-2017 01:29 AM)LUbball23 Wrote: (08-10-2017 02:41 PM)NewTimes Wrote: And to think a few years ago LU was using the visitors locker room and visiting teams were using locker facilities in old nearby buildings. I remember rumblings about 12-15 years ago that App St would not come to LU unless the visiting lockers were upgraded. How things have changed. And as renderings go, these look very nice.
speaking about that. fun fact, they still have the amendment to never play Liberty in any sports. It's from 2001 when Doc made the infamous 9/11 comment.
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Read the link and appreciate the post. This is part of the repercussion LU has to deal with, and likely a reason for a non SBC invite, along with all the other reasons stated a million times. This is the first time I have seen it in writing from a university. My guess is that position has now changed with App St. And if JFJr can contain himself, with foolish rhetoric, LU won't have those statements against them any more.
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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
(08-11-2017 05:42 AM)GE and MTS Wrote: I really like the latest revealed stadium plans, but not so much the discovered plans. I hope our fan base grows to overflow the seating. Slyfox mentioned about McCaw's plan to limit the growth of the stadium to have limited seats to create a higher demand and higher prices and I think that would be counter to Dr. Falwell, Sr.'s vision of Liberty. Obviously we don't have to do everything the way he would have wanted; it isn't Falwell University after all. However, I do agree with him that Liberty should be trying to be more accessible for more people (without compromising Biblical teachings) so that Liberty can reach more people. I know it is just a football stadium and it isn't good business, but I wish Liberty would build enough seats for everyone to have one who wanted one even with the probability there would be empty seats most weeks.
As for the design, I really hope they build it in a way to give us a home field advantage. I know we have the best stadium in the Big South in a huge landslide, but I think any legal and moral advantage we can make for ourselves then we should go after it. I know the Seattle Seahawks built their stadium to get loud and it has an impact.
I hope the success of the FB program being FBS is enough of a branding opportunity to satisfy the admins of LU with it's huge, potential impact. It's a tightrope with expansion. How much is to much? What is too little, and what is just right? 25k seems like there will be standing room for big, high profile games and likely near sellouts for lesser high profile games.
The challenge for LU in fan support is to reach those who are casual FB fans, who are not necessarily active in the school or TRBC. The students, school officials, and TRBC have a system in place to indoctrinate those students to the LU way. But how does LU attract the casual fan, who may or may not want to be an active participant in the school or church?
The commercial spots promoting LU run during FB games are professionally produced, good quality, and get the point across. They effectively present the position of the school and offer the benefits and features of attending LU. They are effective without a hard sell. To change that perspective by professing values and moral issues, in a 30 second spot during a FB game, runs the risk of turning off viewers, and potential candidates of the school.
Just keep the current tone of the current TV spots. They present the school well. Avoid political stances and inflammatory statements that were mistakes made by LU admins in the past. It is an exciting time to be a LU fan. Let's hope admins of the university keep it way. The stadium expansion is certainly a great step in the university becoming identified with FBS and departing the FCS.
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Time to expand Williams Stadium
I'm confused, what's the difference between revealed and discovered?
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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
What is the University stance on alcohol at tailgating? I figure if you're responsible, use a coozie, and don't draw attention you'll be fine. However has it been banned?
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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
(08-11-2017 08:49 AM)NewTimes Wrote: Just keep the current tone of the current TV spots. They present the school well. Avoid political stances and inflammatory statements that were mistakes made by LU admins in the past. It is an exciting time to be a LU fan. Let's hope admins of the university keep it way. The stadium expansion is certainly a great step in the university becoming identified with FBS and departing the FCS.
Good luck with this. Jr is a politician and has it in with the POTUS that he'll defend him no matter what terrible stuff he does or say. A lot of us that work at Liberty gave up on Jr and the school with politics. In fact a lot of us are afraid of what Jr might say regarding the race riots in Charlottesville. He's going to stick up for Trump. It's just a matter of what he'll say because he's a terrible public speaker.
Jacolby, There is a no alcohol policy but as long as you have your beer and liquor in a cup and don't act stupid no one is going to bother you. A lot of students and alumni/employees drink at tailgates. No one goes hunting for alcohol so fans should be good.
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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
(08-13-2017 05:13 PM)army56mike Wrote: I'm confused, what's the difference between revealed and discovered?
Revealed was what Jerry, Jr. and the university officially announced while discovered was what some people found online of what Liberty submitted to be built.
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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
Most recent report is that visitor locker room is going in the east side of indoor practice facility, and they plan to start expansion in october and complete by 2018 opener.
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Time to expand Williams Stadium
So we're adding less than 4,000 seats?
I saw on A Sea Of Red football messageboard they were giving highlights from an interview.
The stadium currently seats 19,200. Actual seating is only going up to 23,100, with room for 1,900 on the grass birm.
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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
(08-23-2017 05:39 PM)army56mike Wrote: So we're adding less than 4,000 seats?
I saw on A Sea Of Red football messageboard they were giving highlights from an interview.
The stadium currently seats 19,200. Actual seating is only going up to 23,100, with room for 1,900 on the grass birm.
Correct, the new mid deck on student side doesn't have as many seats as you'd think. Although grass seats don't seem like seats, the fact that they are shoeing it in, just without bleachers, will be a big change from the grass mounds as the are now.
Just speculating, but if they can do all this in an off season before 18, i suspect they'll add the shoe seats before 19 opener, if ticket demand was high enough. That would make it 30k actual seats.
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I'm just not seeing it. Those images of the new student side are very deceiving. It looks to double the size of the seating. Maybe going with chair back seating? That would lower capacity. The drawings make the stadium look fantastic though, regardless.
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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
(08-27-2017 06:37 PM)army56mike Wrote: I'm just not seeing it. Those images of the new student side are very deceiving. It looks to double the size of the seating. Maybe going with chair back seating? That would lower capacity. The drawings make the stadium look fantastic though, regardless.
Some clearer details finally released. They are now saying the mid deck on the east/student side is 5800 seats. The 1900 grass seats are part of the expansion that will be done for 2019 along with the loge boxes.
http://www.newsadvance.com/news/local/li...00440.html
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RE: Time to expand Williams Stadium
FYI Liberty University Facebook page just posted a virtual tour of the expanded stadium. Looks great!
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Time to expand Williams Stadium
The facility looks pretty good on the virtual tour. I liked the flaming cauldrons at the front of the stadium.
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Time to expand Williams Stadium
Sure expected a bigger crowd for our opener coming off a win over Baylor. I am quite shocked. Thought for surw we'd have 20,000+.
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