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RE: The all-important CUSA baseball attendance rankings...
(05-25-2016 10:08 AM)TN Dawg 13 Wrote:  
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(05-23-2016 07:32 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  Those numbers only go through Thurs 5/19, which missed some teams' final two games. LA Tech's attendance average including it's final two games was 1,013 fans per game.

Your stadium seats about 1150 so those numbers must include the folks on the sidewalk, the street, and those sitting over on the railroad tracks.

According to Wikipedia it seats 3000

The Love Shack was planned, designed and built to include 1200 seats. This information was published and the Louisiana Tech Official web site included the seating chart which I personally had in hand while helping organize a function several years ago. The seating chart has been removed but I am sure if you dig deep enough you will find those old records probably in the athletic dept. There has been no change in the seating since it was built other than removing some seats to make room for a media booth (net loss), converting some bleacher seats to chairback (small net loss), adding a few on top of the dugout (maybe 40 seat gain), and declaring that the remaining existing seats other than the chairbacks is now general admission. I am sure the Wikipedia info must include the ghost seating on the railroad embankment property beyond the right field fence.
Stadium opened for business in 1971. Officially listed as 2,000 seats on athletic site with 700 of those being chairbacks. Updated during most recent renovation. If you have some issue with those - then please inform the La Tech athletic office of their accounting mistake.

Several years ago? You need to visit again. There has been numerous renovations done in just the last 3.

I am not referring to the "numerous renovations", just the SEATING. None of the renovations increased the capacity because the structure itself was not changed. A new ticket office does not increase seating capacity. Techs athletic dept has all the old records and can look at them for themselves, they dont need my notification. I suppose the way they increased it, in their minds, from 1200 up to 2,000 shown on their athletic site is after increasing chairbacks to 700 they declared the remaining bleacher seats (500) as general admission and can now pack 1300 into that 500 bleacher seat space. Wickipedia info, 3000, obviously includes the ghost seats out on the railroad embankment.
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(05-24-2016 04:24 PM)eagle04 Wrote:  I am not sure you get to count attendance at an off site

I'm not sure why anyone would want to count baseball attendance at all (except maybe the AD).
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Idk how you count attendance at our baseball games, i just walk in. Didnt scan a card or anything.
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(05-24-2016 08:55 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 07:32 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  Those numbers only go through Thurs 5/19, which missed some teams' final two games. LA Tech's attendance average including it's final two games was 1,013 fans per game.

Your stadium seats about 1150 so those numbers must include the folks on the sidewalk, the street, and those sitting over on the railroad tracks.

(05-24-2016 10:12 AM)inutech Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 06:46 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  Forget on the field performance, we all know this is what really matters. 03-wink

Note that these are averages, not cumulative. National ranking in parentheses.

1) USM - 3,040 (20)
2) Rice - 2,769 (24)
3) Charlotte - 1,042 (61)
4) LaTech - 931 (70)
5) MTSU - 886 (73)
6) UAB - 784 (87)
7) ODU - 697 (94)
8) FAU - 421 (134)
9) WKU - 364 (152)
10) UTSA - 350 (157)
11) Marshall - 337 (159)
12) FIU - 310 (165)

http://stats.ncaa.org/reports/attendance?id=14600 (sort by average)

eagereagle will be along any minute with his personal accounting for Tech's attendance. The true number will be in double digits per his scientific approach of counting the people in the stands one by one via the tv broadcast.

When I made my comment I was actually joking (I hadn't seen the earlier post by EE).

Weird how easy that was to predict though, huh?

But since we're here anyway, and despite my feelings about attendanceball, I've gotta ask - so what? What if our AD or SID is going out and hand counting fans sitting around the outfield (or on their apartment balconies or watching via telescope from the library tower or the moon)? What would that mean? Philosophically, what should attendance numbers reflect? The number of people watching the game (as you've assuming here)? The number of tickets paid for (how most schools handle football attendance)? The number of people admitted into the gate? And if you have a preference from those, then why? What do (or should) those numbers mean? Especially to a casual fan (or decidedly non-fan, in this case)?
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(05-25-2016 01:52 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-25-2016 10:08 AM)TN Dawg 13 Wrote:  
(05-24-2016 03:54 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-24-2016 11:32 AM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  
(05-24-2016 08:55 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  Your stadium seats about 1150 so those numbers must include the folks on the sidewalk, the street, and those sitting over on the railroad tracks.

According to Wikipedia it seats 3000

The Love Shack was planned, designed and built to include 1200 seats. This information was published and the Louisiana Tech Official web site included the seating chart which I personally had in hand while helping organize a function several years ago. The seating chart has been removed but I am sure if you dig deep enough you will find those old records probably in the athletic dept. There has been no change in the seating since it was built other than removing some seats to make room for a media booth (net loss), converting some bleacher seats to chairback (small net loss), adding a few on top of the dugout (maybe 40 seat gain), and declaring that the remaining existing seats other than the chairbacks is now general admission. I am sure the Wikipedia info must include the ghost seating on the railroad embankment property beyond the right field fence.
Stadium opened for business in 1971. Officially listed as 2,000 seats on athletic site with 700 of those being chairbacks. Updated during most recent renovation. If you have some issue with those - then please inform the La Tech athletic office of their accounting mistake.

Several years ago? You need to visit again. There has been numerous renovations done in just the last 3.

I am not referring to the "numerous renovations", just the SEATING. None of the renovations increased the capacity because the structure itself was not changed. A new ticket office does not increase seating capacity. Techs athletic dept has all the old records and can look at them for themselves, they dont need my notification. I suppose the way they increased it, in their minds, from 1200 up to 2,000 shown on their athletic site is after increasing chairbacks to 700 they declared the remaining bleacher seats (500) as general admission and can now pack 1300 into that 500 bleacher seat space. Wickipedia info, 3000, obviously includes the ghost seats out on the railroad embankment.

I wasn't mixing the two. You implied the renovations I stated were additional seating. They were not to my knowledge - then again - I'm just an alumni and fan of Tech. That alone doesn't equal the hard on you have for all things related to Tech.

All I did was quote what is officially stated for seating capacity. If you want to get an official explanation as to how seats are counted - then by all means do so. Could care less about your assumptions about any discrepancies in qty cause as always - you are slighted against Tech.
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CUSA is an awesome baseball conference. I'm glad Marshall is winning right now, but I fear we will lose our coach soon.

We don't have the facilities to compete in this conference every single year. Not in my opinion anyways.

We need our own stadium somewhere downtown. It doesn't have to be top notch, but nice. I think we could build solid program if we invested into a stadium.
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(05-25-2016 06:53 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  CUSA is an awesome baseball conference. I'm glad Marshall is winning right now, but I fear we will lose our coach soon.

We don't have the facilities to compete in this conference every single year. Not in my opinion anyways.

We need our own stadium somewhere downtown. It doesn't have to be top notch, but nice. I think we could build solid program if we invested into a stadium.

Could Marshall partner with a local high school to build a shared ballpark?

My high school partnered with UMass Boston (D2) to build a really first-class park. I think it could be an option for Marshall.

It only cost about $7 million.

http://www.beaconsathletics.com/inside_a...ball_field

https://www.bchigh.edu/monanpark
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(05-23-2016 06:59 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 06:52 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  04-clap204-clap2 Southern Miss and Rice. Impressive. Did those beat you basketball averages?

Didn't look up what Rice had, but we had 2,994 per game in basketball. So, yes, our baseball did better with attendance than basketball.

that's b/c why???

yeah, we know....

it's a sin we now outdraw hoops once again....
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RE: The all-important CUSA baseball attendance rankings...
(05-25-2016 02:41 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(05-24-2016 08:55 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 07:32 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  Those numbers only go through Thurs 5/19, which missed some teams' final two games. LA Tech's attendance average including it's final two games was 1,013 fans per game.

Your stadium seats about 1150 so those numbers must include the folks on the sidewalk, the street, and those sitting over on the railroad tracks.

(05-24-2016 10:12 AM)inutech Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 06:46 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  Forget on the field performance, we all know this is what really matters. 03-wink

Note that these are averages, not cumulative. National ranking in parentheses.

1) USM - 3,040 (20)
2) Rice - 2,769 (24)
3) Charlotte - 1,042 (61)
4) LaTech - 931 (70)
5) MTSU - 886 (73)
6) UAB - 784 (87)
7) ODU - 697 (94)
8) FAU - 421 (134)
9) WKU - 364 (152)
10) UTSA - 350 (157)
11) Marshall - 337 (159)
12) FIU - 310 (165)

http://stats.ncaa.org/reports/attendance?id=14600 (sort by average)

eagereagle will be along any minute with his personal accounting for Tech's attendance. The true number will be in double digits per his scientific approach of counting the people in the stands one by one via the tv broadcast.

When I made my comment I was actually joking (I hadn't seen the earlier post by EE).

Weird how easy that was to predict though, huh?

But since we're here anyway, and despite my feelings about attendanceball, I've gotta ask - so what? What if our AD or SID is going out and hand counting fans sitting around the outfield (or on their apartment balconies or watching via telescope from the library tower or the moon)? What would that mean? Philosophically, what should attendance numbers reflect? The number of people watching the game (as you've assuming here)? The number of tickets paid for (how most schools handle football attendance)? The number of people admitted into the gate? And if you have a preference from those, then why? What do (or should) those numbers mean? Especially to a casual fan (or decidedly non-fan, in this case)?

nailed it....the focus on what really matters is unnerving....

it's awesome that we draw those numbers....but in the end, it doesn't mean dick....it's college baseball....it gets basically zero tv dollars and zero coverage....
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(05-25-2016 07:04 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  
(05-25-2016 06:53 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  CUSA is an awesome baseball conference. I'm glad Marshall is winning right now, but I fear we will lose our coach soon.

We don't have the facilities to compete in this conference every single year. Not in my opinion anyways.

We need our own stadium somewhere downtown. It doesn't have to be top notch, but nice. I think we could build solid program if we invested into a stadium.

Could Marshall partner with a local high school to build a shared ballpark?

My high school partnered with UMass Boston (D2) to build a really first-class park. I think it could be an option for Marshall.

It only cost about $7 million.

http://www.beaconsathletics.com/inside_a...ball_field

https://www.bchigh.edu/monanpark


The city and Marshall have been talking for years about partnering for a stadium to share between Marshall and minor league team.

I will believe it when I see it.....but the pipe dream continues to hold up plans for anything else.

It's honestly embarrassing and unacceptable. CUSA is a legit baseball conference and should require us to step up our commitment to the sport. Same goes for some of the schools in other sports, but still.
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RE: The all-important CUSA baseball attendance rankings...
(05-25-2016 07:19 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-25-2016 02:41 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(05-24-2016 08:55 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 07:32 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  Those numbers only go through Thurs 5/19, which missed some teams' final two games. LA Tech's attendance average including it's final two games was 1,013 fans per game.

Your stadium seats about 1150 so those numbers must include the folks on the sidewalk, the street, and those sitting over on the railroad tracks.

(05-24-2016 10:12 AM)inutech Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 06:46 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  Forget on the field performance, we all know this is what really matters. 03-wink

Note that these are averages, not cumulative. National ranking in parentheses.

1) USM - 3,040 (20)
2) Rice - 2,769 (24)
3) Charlotte - 1,042 (61)
4) LaTech - 931 (70)
5) MTSU - 886 (73)
6) UAB - 784 (87)
7) ODU - 697 (94)
8) FAU - 421 (134)
9) WKU - 364 (152)
10) UTSA - 350 (157)
11) Marshall - 337 (159)
12) FIU - 310 (165)

http://stats.ncaa.org/reports/attendance?id=14600 (sort by average)

eagereagle will be along any minute with his personal accounting for Tech's attendance. The true number will be in double digits per his scientific approach of counting the people in the stands one by one via the tv broadcast.

When I made my comment I was actually joking (I hadn't seen the earlier post by EE).

Weird how easy that was to predict though, huh?

But since we're here anyway, and despite my feelings about attendanceball, I've gotta ask - so what? What if our AD or SID is going out and hand counting fans sitting around the outfield (or on their apartment balconies or watching via telescope from the library tower or the moon)? What would that mean? Philosophically, what should attendance numbers reflect? The number of people watching the game (as you've assuming here)? The number of tickets paid for (how most schools handle football attendance)? The number of people admitted into the gate? And if you have a preference from those, then why? What do (or should) those numbers mean? Especially to a casual fan (or decidedly non-fan, in this case)?

nailed it....the focus on what really matters is unnerving....

it's awesome that we draw those numbers....but in the end, it doesn't mean dick....it's college baseball....it gets basically zero tv dollars and zero coverage....

Which is why attendance is important. Our baseball program isn't a money drain because of attendence.
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RE: The all-important CUSA baseball attendance rankings...
(05-25-2016 02:41 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(05-24-2016 08:55 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 07:32 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  Those numbers only go through Thurs 5/19, which missed some teams' final two games. LA Tech's attendance average including it's final two games was 1,013 fans per game.

Your stadium seats about 1150 so those numbers must include the folks on the sidewalk, the street, and those sitting over on the railroad tracks.

(05-24-2016 10:12 AM)inutech Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 06:46 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  Forget on the field performance, we all know this is what really matters. 03-wink

Note that these are averages, not cumulative. National ranking in parentheses.

1) USM - 3,040 (20)
2) Rice - 2,769 (24)
3) Charlotte - 1,042 (61)
4) LaTech - 931 (70)
5) MTSU - 886 (73)
6) UAB - 784 (87)
7) ODU - 697 (94)
8) FAU - 421 (134)
9) WKU - 364 (152)
10) UTSA - 350 (157)
11) Marshall - 337 (159)
12) FIU - 310 (165)

http://stats.ncaa.org/reports/attendance?id=14600 (sort by average)

eagereagle will be along any minute with his personal accounting for Tech's attendance. The true number will be in double digits per his scientific approach of counting the people in the stands one by one via the tv broadcast.

When I made my comment I was actually joking (I hadn't seen the earlier post by EE).

Weird how easy that was to predict though, huh?

But since we're here anyway, and despite my feelings about attendanceball, I've gotta ask - so what? What if our AD or SID is going out and hand counting fans sitting around the outfield (or on their apartment balconies or watching via telescope from the library tower or the moon)? What would that mean? Philosophically, what should attendance numbers reflect? The number of people watching the game (as you've assuming here)? The number of tickets paid for (how most schools handle football attendance)? The number of people admitted into the gate? And if you have a preference from those, then why? What do (or should) those numbers mean? Especially to a casual fan (or decidedly non-fan, in this case)?

Attendance, in my opinion, means the number of folks who come to the park and buy a ticket or else admitted free for one reason or the other. It includes everyone inside the boundries of the facility and none beyond that whether in a helecopter or holding onto the tail of a kite. It is important to USM because we must rely heavily on ticket sales to support our program. Unlike Tech, we cant soak the taxpayers for millions on an annual basis to stay afloat.
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RE: The all-important CUSA baseball attendance rankings...
(05-26-2016 07:47 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-25-2016 02:41 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(05-24-2016 08:55 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 07:32 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  Those numbers only go through Thurs 5/19, which missed some teams' final two games. LA Tech's attendance average including it's final two games was 1,013 fans per game.

Your stadium seats about 1150 so those numbers must include the folks on the sidewalk, the street, and those sitting over on the railroad tracks.

(05-24-2016 10:12 AM)inutech Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 06:46 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  Forget on the field performance, we all know this is what really matters. 03-wink

Note that these are averages, not cumulative. National ranking in parentheses.

1) USM - 3,040 (20)
2) Rice - 2,769 (24)
3) Charlotte - 1,042 (61)
4) LaTech - 931 (70)
5) MTSU - 886 (73)
6) UAB - 784 (87)
7) ODU - 697 (94)
8) FAU - 421 (134)
9) WKU - 364 (152)
10) UTSA - 350 (157)
11) Marshall - 337 (159)
12) FIU - 310 (165)

http://stats.ncaa.org/reports/attendance?id=14600 (sort by average)

eagereagle will be along any minute with his personal accounting for Tech's attendance. The true number will be in double digits per his scientific approach of counting the people in the stands one by one via the tv broadcast.

When I made my comment I was actually joking (I hadn't seen the earlier post by EE).

Weird how easy that was to predict though, huh?

But since we're here anyway, and despite my feelings about attendanceball, I've gotta ask - so what? What if our AD or SID is going out and hand counting fans sitting around the outfield (or on their apartment balconies or watching via telescope from the library tower or the moon)? What would that mean? Philosophically, what should attendance numbers reflect? The number of people watching the game (as you've assuming here)? The number of tickets paid for (how most schools handle football attendance)? The number of people admitted into the gate? And if you have a preference from those, then why? What do (or should) those numbers mean? Especially to a casual fan (or decidedly non-fan, in this case)?

Attendance, in my opinion, means the number of folks who come to the park and buy a ticket or else admitted free for one reason or the other. It includes everyone inside the boundries of the facility and none beyond that whether in a helecopter or holding onto the tail of a kite. It is important to USM because we must rely heavily on ticket sales to support our program. Unlike Tech, we cant soak the taxpayers for millions on an annual basis to stay afloat.

It must be frustrating to you that the good taxpayers of Louisiana haven't arisen en mass to topple their overlords/dirty thieves in Ruston.

Taxpayer funding for college athletics.... If only people knew!!!
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(05-26-2016 07:47 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  Unlike Tech, we cant soak the taxpayers for millions on an annual basis to stay afloat.

Well, there you go. As long as Tech is able fund our teams, we agree that it's not an issue. Thank you for your concern and best wishes, we will continue to let our AD be in charge of reporting attendance for now (in whatever way he sees fit).

If we ever have an opening for "attendance counter" you should look into it. Seems like something you enjoy.
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(05-26-2016 08:58 AM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  
(05-26-2016 07:47 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-25-2016 02:41 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(05-24-2016 08:55 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 07:32 PM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  Those numbers only go through Thurs 5/19, which missed some teams' final two games. LA Tech's attendance average including it's final two games was 1,013 fans per game.

Your stadium seats about 1150 so those numbers must include the folks on the sidewalk, the street, and those sitting over on the railroad tracks.

(05-24-2016 10:12 AM)inutech Wrote:  
(05-23-2016 06:46 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  Forget on the field performance, we all know this is what really matters. 03-wink

Note that these are averages, not cumulative. National ranking in parentheses.

1) USM - 3,040 (20)
2) Rice - 2,769 (24)
3) Charlotte - 1,042 (61)
4) LaTech - 931 (70)
5) MTSU - 886 (73)
6) UAB - 784 (87)
7) ODU - 697 (94)
8) FAU - 421 (134)
9) WKU - 364 (152)
10) UTSA - 350 (157)
11) Marshall - 337 (159)
12) FIU - 310 (165)

http://stats.ncaa.org/reports/attendance?id=14600 (sort by average)

eagereagle will be along any minute with his personal accounting for Tech's attendance. The true number will be in double digits per his scientific approach of counting the people in the stands one by one via the tv broadcast.

When I made my comment I was actually joking (I hadn't seen the earlier post by EE).

Weird how easy that was to predict though, huh?

But since we're here anyway, and despite my feelings about attendanceball, I've gotta ask - so what? What if our AD or SID is going out and hand counting fans sitting around the outfield (or on their apartment balconies or watching via telescope from the library tower or the moon)? What would that mean? Philosophically, what should attendance numbers reflect? The number of people watching the game (as you've assuming here)? The number of tickets paid for (how most schools handle football attendance)? The number of people admitted into the gate? And if you have a preference from those, then why? What do (or should) those numbers mean? Especially to a casual fan (or decidedly non-fan, in this case)?

Attendance, in my opinion, means the number of folks who come to the park and buy a ticket or else admitted free for one reason or the other. It includes everyone inside the boundries of the facility and none beyond that whether in a helecopter or holding onto the tail of a kite. It is important to USM because we must rely heavily on ticket sales to support our program. Unlike Tech, we cant soak the taxpayers for millions on an annual basis to stay afloat.

It must be frustrating to you that the good taxpayers of Louisiana haven't arisen en mass to topple their overlords/dirty thieves in Ruston.

Taxpayer funding for college athletics.... If only people knew!!!

Yes, I agree 100%. The athletic depts at La Tech and its eight or so sister members of the U of La System along with Grambling and schools in the Southern U system are sucking the blood by the multi millions from Louisiana taxpayers. The reason nothing is done is there are so many of these schools that most legislative rep has at least one in his district therefore shutting off the faucet would affect HIS area and he doesnt have the guts to withstand the flack. The projected $600 million state budget shortfall for next fiscal year might just knock some sense into them.
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Does the amount from the state include the TOPS money you are able to get for the kids that qualify or are those funds in addition to what is reported as a state funds? No flaming have been curious.
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Im pretty sure 60% of the students dont even use TOPs, and we are like 15% state funded.
I may have the TOPS stat backwards, but the state funded part isnt.
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There'd be more money all around if they'd just shut down the unnecessary and (academically) unsuccessful schools.
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RE: The all-important CUSA baseball attendance rankings...
(05-26-2016 12:46 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-26-2016 08:58 AM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  
(05-26-2016 07:47 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-25-2016 02:41 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(05-24-2016 08:55 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  Your stadium seats about 1150 so those numbers must include the folks on the sidewalk, the street, and those sitting over on the railroad tracks.

(05-24-2016 10:12 AM)inutech Wrote:  eagereagle will be along any minute with his personal accounting for Tech's attendance. The true number will be in double digits per his scientific approach of counting the people in the stands one by one via the tv broadcast.

When I made my comment I was actually joking (I hadn't seen the earlier post by EE).

Weird how easy that was to predict though, huh?

But since we're here anyway, and despite my feelings about attendanceball, I've gotta ask - so what? What if our AD or SID is going out and hand counting fans sitting around the outfield (or on their apartment balconies or watching via telescope from the library tower or the moon)? What would that mean? Philosophically, what should attendance numbers reflect? The number of people watching the game (as you've assuming here)? The number of tickets paid for (how most schools handle football attendance)? The number of people admitted into the gate? And if you have a preference from those, then why? What do (or should) those numbers mean? Especially to a casual fan (or decidedly non-fan, in this case)?

Attendance, in my opinion, means the number of folks who come to the park and buy a ticket or else admitted free for one reason or the other. It includes everyone inside the boundries of the facility and none beyond that whether in a helecopter or holding onto the tail of a kite. It is important to USM because we must rely heavily on ticket sales to support our program. Unlike Tech, we cant soak the taxpayers for millions on an annual basis to stay afloat.

It must be frustrating to you that the good taxpayers of Louisiana haven't arisen en mass to topple their overlords/dirty thieves in Ruston.

Taxpayer funding for college athletics.... If only people knew!!!

Yes, I agree 100%. The athletic depts at La Tech and its eight or so sister members of the U of La System along with Grambling and schools in the Southern U system are sucking the blood by the multi millions from Louisiana taxpayers. The reason nothing is done is there are so many of these schools that most legislative rep has at least one in his district therefore shutting off the faucet would affect HIS area and he doesnt have the guts to withstand the flack. The projected $600 million state budget shortfall for next fiscal year might just knock some sense into them.

Shameful...

If I didn't know better, I'd almost believe that legislators are representing their constituents.... the nerve. No guts at all.

Make sure to stay focused though: Tech is the worst offender of them all. By all means, don't lump those other good apples in with the bad one.
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RE: The all-important CUSA baseball attendance rankings...
(05-26-2016 02:02 PM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  
(05-26-2016 12:46 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-26-2016 08:58 AM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  
(05-26-2016 07:47 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-25-2016 02:41 PM)inutech Wrote:  When I made my comment I was actually joking (I hadn't seen the earlier post by EE).

Weird how easy that was to predict though, huh?

But since we're here anyway, and despite my feelings about attendanceball, I've gotta ask - so what? What if our AD or SID is going out and hand counting fans sitting around the outfield (or on their apartment balconies or watching via telescope from the library tower or the moon)? What would that mean? Philosophically, what should attendance numbers reflect? The number of people watching the game (as you've assuming here)? The number of tickets paid for (how most schools handle football attendance)? The number of people admitted into the gate? And if you have a preference from those, then why? What do (or should) those numbers mean? Especially to a casual fan (or decidedly non-fan, in this case)?

Attendance, in my opinion, means the number of folks who come to the park and buy a ticket or else admitted free for one reason or the other. It includes everyone inside the boundries of the facility and none beyond that whether in a helecopter or holding onto the tail of a kite. It is important to USM because we must rely heavily on ticket sales to support our program. Unlike Tech, we cant soak the taxpayers for millions on an annual basis to stay afloat.

It must be frustrating to you that the good taxpayers of Louisiana haven't arisen en mass to topple their overlords/dirty thieves in Ruston.

Taxpayer funding for college athletics.... If only people knew!!!

Yes, I agree 100%. The athletic depts at La Tech and its eight or so sister members of the U of La System along with Grambling and schools in the Southern U system are sucking the blood by the multi millions from Louisiana taxpayers. The reason nothing is done is there are so many of these schools that most legislative rep has at least one in his district therefore shutting off the faucet would affect HIS area and he doesnt have the guts to withstand the flack. The projected $600 million state budget shortfall for next fiscal year might just knock some sense into them.

Shameful...

If I didn't know better, I'd almost believe that legislators are representing their constituents.... the nerve. No guts at all.

Make sure to stay focused though: Tech is the worst offender of them all. By all means, don't lump those other good apples in with the bad one.

I guess we do agree on one thing, Tech is the worst offender as they do take more than the rest. The average working man on the street has no idea of this situation and the legislators are spineless in avoiding the hyenas that would scream bloody murder if they closed the purse strings.
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