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I recently came back from a trip to San Antonio and SeaWorld in particular. I couldnt help but notice that while white people are the majority of Americans, they are in the minority when you consider all the Asians, Africans, and other people of color I saw at the parks.

Granted, it was a tourist place so Im sure that it isnt the same everywhere. Regardless, my family and I were blown away by how many different languages were spoken and how many people from seemingly other countries were there. Many Asians were there speaking their native languages, Indias, and even Spanish speaking peoples. I am fluent in Spanish but could only make out a few phrases so it must have been people from South America.

On July 4th, I did see a few Anglo Americans clad in red, white and blue. One such individual was even wearing the American flag like a cape. I couldnt help but notice the sense of nationalism with these people. Now I know why they fear other cultures the way that they do. They are becoming outnumbered and unrecognizable as Americans. Even on independence day.
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(07-06-2016 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I recently came back from a trip to San Antonio and SeaWorld in particular. I couldnt help but notice that while white people are the majority of Americans, they are in the minority when you consider all the Asians, Africans, and other people of color I saw at the parks.

Granted, it was a tourist place so Im sure that it isnt the same everywhere. Regardless, my family and I were blown away by how many different languages were spoken and how many people from seemingly other countries were there. Many Asians were there speaking their native languages, Indias, and even Spanish speaking peoples. I am fluent in Spanish but could only make out a few phrases so it must have been people from South America.

On July 4th, I did see a few Anglo Americans clad in red, white and blue. One such individual was even wearing the American flag like a cape. I couldnt help but notice the sense of nationalism with these people. Now I know why they fear other cultures the way that they do. They are becoming outnumbered and unrecognizable as Americans. Even on independence day.

Assimilate. Be proud of your country. The American flag and 4th of July aren't just for white Americans.
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Fit pivoting from Hillarygate to calling white people racists again.

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What flag did you expect these Americans to show? If it bothers you perhaps it's time to go back to your parents home country. After all I'm sure that they don't do that in Mexico. Oh, they do! Sorry, my mistake.

I show my colors and it ain't my fathers home country it's the country that I served proudly…and would serve again if needed.

Don't be such a Mexican Feet. It's time to adopt the country that gives you all you have.

If there's a xenophobe, you're it. My father who was naturalized HATED those that came to the U.S. and would praise Mexico and put down their new country. He would say that there's a simple solution to their problem and it involved going back.
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(07-06-2016 01:21 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(07-06-2016 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I recently came back from a trip to San Antonio and SeaWorld in particular. I couldnt help but notice that while white people are the majority of Americans, they are in the minority when you consider all the Asians, Africans, and other people of color I saw at the parks.

Granted, it was a tourist place so Im sure that it isnt the same everywhere. Regardless, my family and I were blown away by how many different languages were spoken and how many people from seemingly other countries were there. Many Asians were there speaking their native languages, Indias, and even Spanish speaking peoples. I am fluent in Spanish but could only make out a few phrases so it must have been people from South America.

On July 4th, I did see a few Anglo Americans clad in red, white and blue. One such individual was even wearing the American flag like a cape. I couldnt help but notice the sense of nationalism with these people. Now I know why they fear other cultures the way that they do. They are becoming outnumbered and unrecognizable as Americans. Even on independence day.

Assimilate. Be proud of your country. The American flag and 4th of July aren't just for white Americans.

I am proud of our country which is why I spent so much money to be at that particular place on the 4th of July. I was actually going to spend it at the USS Lexington in Corpus but we heard news reports about the beaches being contaminated so we stayed in San Antonio instead.
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(07-06-2016 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I recently came back from a trip to San Antonio and SeaWorld in particular. I couldnt help but notice that while white people are the majority of Americans, they are in the minority when you consider all the Asians, Africans, and other people of color I saw at the parks.

Granted, it was a tourist place so Im sure that it isnt the same everywhere. Regardless, my family and I were blown away by how many different languages were spoken and how many people from seemingly other countries were there. Many Asians were there speaking their native languages, Indias, and even Spanish speaking peoples. I am fluent in Spanish but could only make out a few phrases so it must have been people from South America.

On July 4th, I did see a few Anglo Americans clad in red, white and blue. One such individual was even wearing the American flag like a cape. I couldnt help but notice the sense of nationalism with these people. Now I know why they fear other cultures the way that they do. They are becoming outnumbered and unrecognizable as Americans. Even on independence day.

Xenophobia is another left wing pejorative tossed around to silence free speech and thought. Especially related to temp ban on muslim refugees.
The USA is the most welcoming country on the planet.
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(07-06-2016 01:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  What flag did you expect these Americans to show? If it bothers you perhaps it's time to go back to your parents home country. After all I'm sure that they don't do that in Mexico. Oh, they do! Sorry, my mistake.

I show my colors and it ain't my fathers home country it's the country that I served proudly…and would serve again if needed.

Don't be such a Mexican Feet. It's time to adopt the country that gives you all you have.

If there's a xenophobe, you're it. My father who was naturalized HATED those that came to the U.S. and would praise Mexico and put down their new country. He would say that there's a simple solution to their problem and it involved going back.

You completely misunderstood my point. Of course Americans should show their colors and be proud. My daughter had a red white and blue outfit on. That wasnt the point. The point was that there wasnt very many of them out there and the few that I saw seemed as if they were doing it as an act of defiance and protest rather than anything else.
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(07-06-2016 01:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  What flag did you expect these Americans to show? If it bothers you perhaps it's time to go back to your parents home country. After all I'm sure that they don't do that in Mexico. Oh, they do! Sorry, my mistake.

I show my colors and it ain't my fathers home country it's the country that I served proudly…and would serve again if needed.

Don't be such a Mexican Feet. It's time to adopt the country that gives you all you have.

If there's a xenophobe, you're it. My father who was naturalized HATED those that came to the U.S. and would praise Mexico and put down their new country. He would say that there's a simple solution to their problem and it involved going back.

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(07-06-2016 01:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(07-06-2016 01:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  What flag did you expect these Americans to show? If it bothers you perhaps it's time to go back to your parents home country. After all I'm sure that they don't do that in Mexico. Oh, they do! Sorry, my mistake.

I show my colors and it ain't my fathers home country it's the country that I served proudly…and would serve again if needed.

Don't be such a Mexican Feet. It's time to adopt the country that gives you all you have.

If there's a xenophobe, you're it. My father who was naturalized HATED those that came to the U.S. and would praise Mexico and put down their new country. He would say that there's a simple solution to their problem and it involved going back.

You completely misunderstood my point. Of course Americans should show their colors and be proud. My daughter had a red white and blue outfit on. That wasnt the point. The point was that there wasnt very many of them out there and the few that I saw seemed as if they were doing it as an act of defiance and protest rather than anything else.

Well then that's the problem. Your perception, as a liberal, is skewed. Most liberals, our President included, are not patriotic in a traditional sense.
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(07-06-2016 01:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(07-06-2016 01:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  What flag did you expect these Americans to show? If it bothers you perhaps it's time to go back to your parents home country. After all I'm sure that they don't do that in Mexico. Oh, they do! Sorry, my mistake.

I show my colors and it ain't my fathers home country it's the country that I served proudly…and would serve again if needed.

Don't be such a Mexican Feet. It's time to adopt the country that gives you all you have.

If there's a xenophobe, you're it. My father who was naturalized HATED those that came to the U.S. and would praise Mexico and put down their new country. He would say that there's a simple solution to their problem and it involved going back.

You completely misunderstood my point. Of course Americans should show their colors and be proud. My daughter had a red white and blue outfit on. That wasnt the point. The point was that there wasnt very many of them out there and the few that I saw seemed as if they were doing it as an act of defiance and protest rather than anything else.
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(07-06-2016 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I recently came back from a trip to San Antonio and SeaWorld in particular. I couldnt help but notice that while white people are the majority of Americans, they are in the minority when you consider all the Asians, Africans, and other people of color I saw at the parks.

Granted, it was a tourist place so Im sure that it isnt the same everywhere. Regardless, my family and I were blown away by how many different languages were spoken and how many people from seemingly other countries were there. Many Asians were there speaking their native languages, Indias, and even Spanish speaking peoples. I am fluent in Spanish but could only make out a few phrases so it must have been people from South America.

On July 4th, I did see a few Anglo Americans clad in red, white and blue. One such individual was even wearing the American flag like a cape. I couldnt help but notice the sense of nationalism with these people. Now I know why they fear other cultures the way that they do. They are becoming outnumbered and unrecognizable as Americans. Even on independence day.

Do you know the difference between having a sense of national pride and xenophobia?
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(07-06-2016 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I recently came back from a trip to San Antonio and SeaWorld in particular. I couldnt help but notice that while white people are the majority of Americans, they are in the minority when you consider all the Asians, Africans, and other people of color I saw at the parks.

Granted, it was a tourist place so Im sure that it isnt the same everywhere. Regardless, my family and I were blown away by how many different languages were spoken and how many people from seemingly other countries were there. Many Asians were there speaking their native languages, Indias, and even Spanish speaking peoples. I am fluent in Spanish but could only make out a few phrases so it must have been people from South America.

On July 4th, I did see a few Anglo Americans clad in red, white and blue. One such individual was even wearing the American flag like a cape. I couldnt help but notice the sense of nationalism with these people. Now I know why they fear other cultures the way that they do. They are becoming outnumbered and unrecognizable as Americans. Even on independence day.

Do you know the difference between having a sense of national pride and xenophobia?

Yes I do. Again you are missing the point. I wasnt trying to suggest that people wearing red white and blue means they are being xenophobic. Again, My daughter was in fact wearing a red white and blue outfit.

I was simply commenting on two different topics at once. I forget how many of you cannot chew gum and walk at the same time.

1. I first am saying that I can understand how some people might feel as if they have lost their country given the fact that I saw so many people of other cultures and languages than Americans.

2. Very few people were wearing red white and blue for an independence day celebration. The few that I saw were wearing it but with statements that seems to suggest something other than simply celebration.
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(07-06-2016 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I recently came back from a trip to San Antonio and SeaWorld in particular. I couldnt help but notice that while white people are the majority of Americans, they are in the minority when you consider all the Asians, Africans, and other people of color I saw at the parks.

Oh I already love where this is going...

Quote:Granted, it was a tourist place so Im sure that it isnt the same everywhere. Regardless, my family and I were blown away by how many different languages were spoken and how many people from seemingly other countries were there. Many Asians were there speaking their native languages, Indias, and even Spanish speaking peoples. I am fluent in Spanish but could only make out a few phrases so it must have been people from South America.


And it just makes you feel oh so smug to think that white people cant appreciate diversity but POC can.

Quote:On July 4th, I did see a few Anglo Americans clad in red, white and blue. One such individual was even wearing the American flag like a cape. I couldnt help but notice the sense of nationalism with these people.

And now you're a dick. My wife is a POC and an immigrant she is just as proud of this nation on the 4th as I am. My last team lead was a POC and African Immigrant who *LOVED* this nation and what it is.

Please don't apply your tinted view of the world to POC's or immigrants.

Quote:Now I know why they fear other cultures the way that they do. They are becoming outnumbered and unrecognizable as Americans. Even on independence day.

1 - You don't know that the guy wearing a cape fears other cultures. That's just you stereotyping him. Nice job.
2 - Why would being less than 50% of the population make white people "unrecognizable as Americans" are Asians currently "unrecognizable as Americans"
3 - Anglo refers to a specific ethnic group in Europe you clod. I am *NOT* anglo and it's pretty damn ignorant of you to lump all white people into the anglo Catagory. It would be like me saying all Asians are Japanese. If you have to break it down I'm either Irish, Gaelic, or Celtic... Take your pick. But in the end I am American, like my POC wife and kids.
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(07-06-2016 01:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
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(07-06-2016 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I recently came back from a trip to San Antonio and SeaWorld in particular. I couldnt help but notice that while white people are the majority of Americans, they are in the minority when you consider all the Asians, Africans, and other people of color I saw at the parks.

Granted, it was a tourist place so Im sure that it isnt the same everywhere. Regardless, my family and I were blown away by how many different languages were spoken and how many people from seemingly other countries were there. Many Asians were there speaking their native languages, Indias, and even Spanish speaking peoples. I am fluent in Spanish but could only make out a few phrases so it must have been people from South America.

On July 4th, I did see a few Anglo Americans clad in red, white and blue. One such individual was even wearing the American flag like a cape. I couldnt help but notice the sense of nationalism with these people. Now I know why they fear other cultures the way that they do. They are becoming outnumbered and unrecognizable as Americans. Even on independence day.

Do you know the difference between having a sense of national pride and xenophobia?

Yes I do. Again you are missing the point. I wasnt trying to suggest that people wearing red white and blue means they are being xenophobic. Again, My daughter was in fact wearing a red white and blue outfit.

I was simply commenting on two different topics at once. I forget how many of you cannot chew gum and walk at the same time.

1. I first am saying that I can understand how some people might feel as if they have lost their country given the fact that I saw so many people of other cultures and languages than Americans.

2. Very few people were wearing red white and blue for an independence day celebration. The few that I saw were wearing it but with statements that seems to suggest something other than simply celebration.

No, you were making a thinly veiled accusation that proud Americans (especially white people) are xenophobes.

Just another poor topic you want to discuss instead of Hillary.
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(07-06-2016 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I recently came back from a trip to San Antonio and SeaWorld in particular. I couldnt help but notice that while white people are the majority of Americans, they are in the minority when you consider all the Asians, Africans, and other people of color I saw at the parks.

Granted, it was a tourist place so Im sure that it isnt the same everywhere. Regardless, my family and I were blown away by how many different languages were spoken and how many people from seemingly other countries were there. Many Asians were there speaking their native languages, Indias, and even Spanish speaking peoples. I am fluent in Spanish but could only make out a few phrases so it must have been people from South America.


On July 4th, I did see a few Anglo Americans clad in red, white and blue. One such individual was even wearing the American flag like a cape. I couldnt help but notice the sense of nationalism with these people. Now I know why they fear other cultures the way that they do. They are becoming outnumbered and unrecognizable as Americans. Even on independence day.

That's a good thing...yay diversity!
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(07-06-2016 01:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  You completely misunderstood my point. Of course Americans should show their colors and be proud. My daughter had a red white and blue outfit on. That wasnt the point. The point was that there wasnt very many of them out there and the few that I saw seemed as if they were doing it as an act of defiance and protest rather than anything else.

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Anyhoot about Xenophobia... It's a common tactic of leftists who like "what America can be" but not "what America has been" to silence people who have concerns about losing key elements of our national (not racial) identity.

I could give a fat rats behind what color this nation looks like in 100 years. If I cared I would have married a white person and had four kids with them. What I want to preserve is a sense of liberty, egalitarianism, freedom, and personal autonomy.

Any immigrant who furthers that is someone I am happy to have. Anyone who comes in wanting to make our government more like somewhere else in the world is someone who should *STAY* somewhere else.
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(07-06-2016 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I recently came back from a trip to San Antonio and SeaWorld in particular. I couldnt help but notice that while white people are the majority of Americans, they are in the minority when you consider all the Asians, Africans, and other people of color I saw at the parks.

Granted, it was a tourist place so Im sure that it isnt the same everywhere. Regardless, my family and I were blown away by how many different languages were spoken and how many people from seemingly other countries were there. Many Asians were there speaking their native languages, Indias, and even Spanish speaking peoples. I am fluent in Spanish but could only make out a few phrases so it must have been people from South America.

On July 4th, I did see a few Anglo Americans clad in red, white and blue. One such individual was even wearing the American flag like a cape. I couldnt help but notice the sense of nationalism with these people. Now I know why they fear other cultures the way that they do. They are becoming outnumbered and unrecognizable as Americans. Even on independence day.

Do you know the difference between having a sense of national pride and xenophobia?

Yes I do. Again you are missing the point. I wasnt trying to suggest that people wearing red white and blue means they are being xenophobic. Again, My daughter was in fact wearing a red white and blue outfit.

I was simply commenting on two different topics at once. I forget how many of you cannot chew gum and walk at the same time.

1. I first am saying that I can understand how some people might feel as if they have lost their country given the fact that I saw so many people of other cultures and languages than Americans.

2. Very few people were wearing red white and blue for an independence day celebration. The few that I saw were wearing it but with statements that seems to suggest something other than simply celebration.

No, you were making a thinly veiled accusation that proud Americans (especially white people) are xenophobes.

Just another poor topic you want to discuss instead of Hillary.

Wrong again.

I did no such thing. I simply said that I can understand why some Americans fear diversity because it is clearly a different country from a diversity standpoint than it was. At least from my perspective. Ive never seen so many people from different cultures all speaking so many different languages. I was surprised by it so I can understand why others would be as well.

I have no problem with proud Americans. I was one of them there to celebrate along with everyone else. The point is that I didnt see very many of them willing to show it by wearing red white and blue except for a few who had shirts that said
Dont Tread on ME or Come and Take it. Not sure if that is the same thing.
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(07-06-2016 01:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I did no such thing. I simply said that I can understand why some Americans fear diversity because it is clearly a different country from a diversity standpoint than it was. At least from my perspective.

There is the key... This is all from your perspective

Quote:Ive never seen so many people from different cultures all speaking so many different languages. I was surprised by it so I can understand why others would be as well.

Then you have been very sheltered. I mean **VERY** sheltered...
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