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(08-09-2016 11:03 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  My GF and I have sling (FS1, Comedy Central, Adult Swim, CNN, AMC, BBC America etc ect), I have a Netflix account, she has an Amazon Prime account, we use her mothers cable password to get HBO, Starz, Showtime, Encore, ESPN and the other apps for free and we use her brothers Hulu password. haha we're pretty much set.

Sling is great but I need a DVR option for sports. The Rutgers/Michigan game is the night of our anniversary. Needless to say I wont be watching that one, except for maybe the first quarter before we go out to dinner.

With the Sling Orange package you can log into the watch ESPN app and watch games that have already aired. You can also you the app for live games too.
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(08-09-2016 10:27 AM)Artifice Wrote:  So $25-$30 for sling, a similar price for Hulu, Netflix/Amazon, HBO, etc plus broadband access, and then to properly surf for content you have to open up multiple apps? And that's with these services currently being indirectly supplemented by cable TV profits... who knows what the prices are gonna be in a true a la carte world?

"Cord cutting" seems like it is going to be clunky, and not that great of a value proposition for anyone who wants more than just the most barebones content, and no features (eg DVR, etc).

Google FiberTV aint cheap, but is looking more and more appealing.

It's definitely not for everybody& their is a trade off in terms of how much content you have access to. I don't watch much TV since all a of my kids are grown & gone, so the Wife & I don't need or want 200 plus channels or the bundled contracts the cable companies push. The only reason we signed up for Sling is to get access to ESPN & Lifetime. We have no problem finding stuff to watch whether it be on Netflix,OTA or some of the free channels we downloaded via Roku like Crackle or CW Seed
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(08-09-2016 09:33 AM)goofus Wrote:  They need to go to more of a Netflix model and get rid of commercials. There is no way I am paying 8 bucks and still have to watch commercials.


HULU already offers that option. You just don't get it for $8.00: it costs $11 or $11.99


(08-09-2016 10:02 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  PS - I don't care what you say, if you're not getting your TV completely OTA for free then you're not a real cord-cutter!! 04-cheers

Could not agree more!
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(08-09-2016 10:27 AM)Artifice Wrote:  So $25-$30 for sling, a similar price for Hulu, Netflix/Amazon, HBO, etc plus broadband access, and then to properly surf for content you have to open up multiple apps? And that's with these services currently being indirectly supplemented by cable TV profits... who knows what the prices are gonna be in a true a la carte world?

"Cord cutting" seems like it is going to be clunky, and not that great of a value proposition for anyone who wants more than just the most barebones content, and no features (eg DVR, etc).

Google FiberTV aint cheap, but is looking more and more appealing.

No one saves money cord cutting unless they are a college student who uses their parents login information or are doing something illegal.

On average just having cable internet alone costs about $40 then if you add in Netlflix & Hulu you are already paying 60.00 a month. And this is not even including equipment rental fee's. Or the cost of having to buy something like ESPN or HBO.

This is not also including the pure frustration of services like Netflix or Hulu who are notorious for skipping episodes. For example, they will say they have the newest season of a show. But they will have every episode but the first three episodes. Or they will have every episode but the last few episodes. Or having series not have the first season which essentially forces you to buy it if you don't want to be lost.
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(08-09-2016 12:03 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(08-09-2016 10:27 AM)Artifice Wrote:  So $25-$30 for sling, a similar price for Hulu, Netflix/Amazon, HBO, etc plus broadband access, and then to properly surf for content you have to open up multiple apps? And that's with these services currently being indirectly supplemented by cable TV profits... who knows what the prices are gonna be in a true a la carte world?

"Cord cutting" seems like it is going to be clunky, and not that great of a value proposition for anyone who wants more than just the most barebones content, and no features (eg DVR, etc).

Google FiberTV aint cheap, but is looking more and more appealing.

No one saves money cord cutting unless they are a college student who uses their parents login information or are doing something illegal.

On average just having cable internet alone costs about $40 then if you add in Netlflix & Hulu you are already paying 60.00 a month. And this is not even including equipment rental fee's. Or the cost of having to buy something like ESPN or HBO.

This is not also including the pure frustration of services like Netflix or Hulu who are notorious for skipping episodes. For example, they will say they have the newest season of a show. But they will have every episode but the first three episodes. Or they will have every episode but the last few episodes. Or having series not have the first season which essentially forces you to buy it if you don't want to be lost.

Netflix doesn't do that. They might not have the newest seasons but they don't have incomplete seasons either.
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Playstation Vue
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(08-09-2016 12:30 PM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  Playstation Vue

I use Playstation Vue it has a DVR function. DVR is Ok as it only holds content for 28 days. It gives you more channels than Sling but at a higher price.
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(08-09-2016 12:03 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(08-09-2016 10:27 AM)Artifice Wrote:  So $25-$30 for sling, a similar price for Hulu, Netflix/Amazon, HBO, etc plus broadband access, and then to properly surf for content you have to open up multiple apps? And that's with these services currently being indirectly supplemented by cable TV profits... who knows what the prices are gonna be in a true a la carte world?

"Cord cutting" seems like it is going to be clunky, and not that great of a value proposition for anyone who wants more than just the most barebones content, and no features (eg DVR, etc).

Google FiberTV aint cheap, but is looking more and more appealing.

No one saves money cord cutting unless they are a college student who uses their parents login information or are doing something illegal.

On average just having cable internet alone costs about $40 then if you add in Netlflix & Hulu you are already paying 60.00 a month. And this is not even including equipment rental fee's. Or the cost of having to buy something like ESPN or HBO.

This is not also including the pure frustration of services like Netflix or Hulu who are notorious for skipping episodes. For example, they will say they have the newest season of a show. But they will have every episode but the first three episodes. Or they will have every episode but the last few episodes. Or having series not have the first season which essentially forces you to buy it if you don't want to be lost.

You do know that if you have CATV you are still paying for broadband access separately. And if streaming the only equipment you really need is a laptop.
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Point is, though, with cable you can get pay-TV without having internet service to your home. Do many people do that, these days? No. But you can.

With streaming, you must have internet service to your home as a pre-requisite, to then even be able to pay more money on top of that for the streaming service(s).
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(08-09-2016 10:27 AM)Artifice Wrote:  So $25-$30 for sling, a similar price for Hulu, Netflix/Amazon, HBO, etc plus broadband access, and then to properly surf for content you have to open up multiple apps? And that's with these services currently being indirectly supplemented by cable TV profits... who knows what the prices are gonna be in a true a la carte world?

"Cord cutting" seems like it is going to be clunky, and not that great of a value proposition for anyone who wants more than just the most barebones content, and no features (eg DVR, etc).

Google FiberTV aint cheap, but is looking more and more appealing.

The rumor is the next generation of Apple TV OS will have a search feature (type the search or speak it) and pull up matching content, click it and it will open the correct app.

Amazon Fire has voice search but doesn't work with third party providers.
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(08-09-2016 12:41 PM)Aztec Since 88 Wrote:  
(08-09-2016 12:30 PM)Spinal070508 Wrote:  Playstation Vue

I use Playstation Vue it has a DVR function. DVR is Ok as it only holds content for 28 days. It gives you more channels than Sling but at a higher price.

How much does Vue cost?
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Vue is a much better value than Sling. And you don't need a Playstation to run it. (Stupid marketing on Sony's part)
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(08-09-2016 01:29 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Point is, though, with cable you can get pay-TV without having internet service to your home. Do many people do that, these days? No. But you can.

With streaming, you must have internet service to your home as a pre-requisite, to then even be able to pay more money on top of that for the streaming service(s).

Yeah, but internet is becoming a regular service like water, gas and electricity.
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(08-09-2016 01:29 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(08-09-2016 01:07 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  You do know that if you have CATV you are still paying for broadband access separately. And if streaming the only equipment you really need is a laptop.

Point is, though, with cable you can get pay-TV without having internet service to your home. Do many people do that, these days? No. But you can.

On top of that, you have to have a certain level of internet. You cannot have the $15.00 base internet package and think it will work, because it will be too slow. Plus many ISP's have data caps. Most don't enforce it but they can. Word is the cable companies who are also ISP's, will start enforcing the data caps on people who don't also purchase TV.

Netflix uses 3BG per hour, 4 if it's true HD. AT&T, for example, has a data cap of 250GB. You can do the math if you are someone who gets all of their TV from streaming.

Also, often times you get your Internet discounted with cable. I pay $100 per month total for cable (all regular and extended basic channels), plus internet and HBO, with a DVR (six recorders). You get a decent Internet ($60), sling ($20), hulu ($8), and Netflix ($8) and you are at $96.00. Where is the savings?
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(08-09-2016 01:53 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(08-09-2016 01:29 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(08-09-2016 01:07 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  You do know that if you have CATV you are still paying for broadband access separately. And if streaming the only equipment you really need is a laptop.

Point is, though, with cable you can get pay-TV without having internet service to your home. Do many people do that, these days? No. But you can.

On top of that, you have to have a certain level of internet. You cannot have the $15.00 base internet package and think it will work, because it will be too slow. Plus many ISP's have data caps. Most don't enforce it but they can. Word is the cable companies who are also ISP's, will start enforcing the data caps on people who don't also purchase TV.

Netflix uses 3BG per hour, 4 if it's true HD. AT&T, for example, has a data cap of 250GB. You can do the math if you are someone who gets all of their TV from streaming.

Also, often times you get your Internet discounted with cable. I pay $100 per month total for cable (all regular and extended basic channels), plus internet and HBO, with a DVR (six recorders). You get a decent Internet ($60), sling ($20), hulu ($8), and Netflix ($8) and you are at $96.00. Where is the savings?

There is a $15 internet package? We have the lowest internet package at $59 and we have never had an issue streaming multiple devices. Sorry, you couldn't pay me to go back to CATV, sign a contract or have to pay for their equipment.

Maybe you guys live in cheap places where CATV doesn't cost a lot. I don't. The cheapest CATV package we can get out here in the mountains will run me $69 for the basic package. That doesn't include taxes, fees or the equipment rental charge. It also does not include ESPN or Fox Sports or any premium channels. For me to get what I get through streaming we would be paying almost $200 per month once the initial 12 month trial offer expires.

We don't watch a ton of TV, especially in the summer. We shut Sling down on at the end of March. I can't do that with CATV. We don't pay for Hulu, just Netflix. We do have Amazon Prime but that has more to do with shipping and the fact that we order almost everything off Amazon with the exception of groceries. I haven't seen the inside of a Target or WalMart in years.

To each their own. But don't get to comfortable with your CATV. Much like landline phones the box on your TV is going away. Give it a decade, at most.
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(08-09-2016 02:28 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  
(08-09-2016 01:53 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(08-09-2016 01:29 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(08-09-2016 01:07 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  You do know that if you have CATV you are still paying for broadband access separately. And if streaming the only equipment you really need is a laptop.

Point is, though, with cable you can get pay-TV without having internet service to your home. Do many people do that, these days? No. But you can.

On top of that, you have to have a certain level of internet. You cannot have the $15.00 base internet package and think it will work, because it will be too slow. Plus many ISP's have data caps. Most don't enforce it but they can. Word is the cable companies who are also ISP's, will start enforcing the data caps on people who don't also purchase TV.

Netflix uses 3BG per hour, 4 if it's true HD. AT&T, for example, has a data cap of 250GB. You can do the math if you are someone who gets all of their TV from streaming.

Also, often times you get your Internet discounted with cable. I pay $100 per month total for cable (all regular and extended basic channels), plus internet and HBO, with a DVR (six recorders). You get a decent Internet ($60), sling ($20), hulu ($8), and Netflix ($8) and you are at $96.00. Where is the savings?

There is a $15 internet package? We have the lowest internet package at $59 and we have never had an issue streaming multiple devices. Sorry, you couldn't pay me to go back to CATV, sign a contract or have to pay for their equipment.

Maybe you guys live in cheap places where CATV doesn't cost a lot. I don't. The cheapest CATV package we can get out here in the mountains will run me $69 for the basic package. That doesn't include taxes, fees or the equipment rental charge. It also does not include ESPN or Fox Sports or any premium channels. For me to get what I get through streaming we would be paying almost $200 per month once the initial 12 month trial offer expires.

We don't watch a ton of TV, especially in the summer. We shut Sling down on at the end of March. I can't do that with CATV. We don't pay for Hulu, just Netflix. We do have Amazon Prime but that has more to do with shipping and the fact that we order almost everything off Amazon with the exception of groceries. I haven't seen the inside of a Target or WalMart in years.

To each their own. But don't get to comfortable with your CATV. Much like landline phones the box on your TV is going away. Give it a decade, at most.


I had the $15 per month internet package from Time Warner Cable for a while. Not sure if any other carriers offer it (or even if TWC still does). It streamed fine, albeit in Standard Def. Some services work better than others. Netflix ran extremely well -- often couldn't tell it wasn't HD, although possibly because most of the shows are on film. ESPN had occasional buffering issues, which usually involved a short loss of picture quality rather than an interruption of the stream, but the picture was never as crisp as Netflix.
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Netflix says suckie internet speeds work just fine if you dont care about HD...
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306

Caps have been a fear for years and for the most part none have been applied for normal internet connections...
When 5g cell networks eventualy roll out the pricing for internet should plunge...
Most everyone is already paying 60 for internet in addition to cable...

Hulu sucks and dont need sling so Netflix is 8 bucks which is a lot less than the 72 I was paying for cable...
I also ditched my 60 month internet and have tmobile phone internet connection sharing for 15 more a month with unlimited video streamin including Netfix...
So savings is over 100 per month...
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(08-09-2016 02:30 PM)00yyz Wrote:  Netflix says suckie internet speeds work just fine if you dont care about HD...
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306

Caps have been a fear for years and for the most part none have been applied for normal internet connections...

They have never been applied because there has not been a need for it. IT is there to be used when cable losses get too much, and to "get back " at those who use the net to stream everything. It is protection for themselves for the future. And since all major internet providers are also content providers of sort, and all have some hand the in pay TV game, it is their trump card.
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(08-09-2016 02:34 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(08-09-2016 02:30 PM)00yyz Wrote:  Netflix says suckie internet speeds work just fine if you dont care about HD...
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306

Caps have been a fear for years and for the most part none have been applied for normal internet connections...

They have never been applied because there has not been a need for it. IT is there to be used when cable losses get too much, and to "get back " at those who use the net to stream everything. It is protection for themselves for the future. And since all major internet providers are also content providers of sort, and all have some hand the in pay TV game, it is their trump card.

At&t has raised all their data caps starting at the end of august at least where I live. Mist plans will have 1,000 gb. It also helps to have both Google Fiber which has no data caps & Charter(TWC) providing service. Either way I do see the majority of pay TV subscribers sticking to tradional cable either way
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I also get my Internet through my T-Mobile phone and watch most of my streaming on my phone using netflix and HBOnow. I also had Amazon prime for awhile. It works fine.

Now if I lived alone, that would be all I have. But since I don't live alone. I have a deal with Comcast where I get Internet in the home for $20 a month for 1 year, then it will go up to $40 a month, but there is no contract, so I could cancel if I wanted.

I am holding out for deal where comcast offers CATV (including all the sports channels and HBO) + internet for $60 a month for at least 2 years. Then I will go back to CATV. I think if enough people cut the cord, the prices will get that low. If not, I guess I won't be going be going back to CATV.
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