(08-14-2016 12:59 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  As a result, republicans have swung hard right and democrats have swung hard left.
I disagree. Clinton is not hard left. She's a neo con.

Neocons are leftists except on defense, foreign policy, and social issues (drugs, gay rights, abortion). Hillary is not a neocon on the social issues.

Neo Cons are old Rockefeller Republicans. Now these names can be co opted. Biggest sign of a neo con. Old Democrats that are pro war and Pro Isreal. Kissinger is the grandfather.

neocon is the Rorschach inkblot of political bogeymen. People see in it whatever their own personality quirks cause them to see.

I've never known anyone that used that word to know what it actually meant. In fact, it been mangled for so long that it may not mean anything any longer.

(08-14-2016 12:59 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  As a result, republicans have swung hard right and democrats have swung hard left.

I disagree. Clinton is not hard left. She's a neo con.

Yet you'll be voting for her in November.

I didn't vote for her in the primary. I don't think I'll have to Smaug. It's going to be a brutal shellacking of epic proportions.

So, who are you voting for?

(08-14-2016 07:23 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I didn't vote for her in the primary. I don't think I'll have to Smaug. It's going to be a brutal shellacking of epic proportions.

That's a cool story bro. Too bad it's not based in reality.

(08-14-2016 02:10 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Neo Cons are old Rockefeller Republicans. Now these names can be co opted. Biggest sign of a neo con. Old Democrats that are pro war and Pro Isreal. Kissinger is the grandfather.

What's wrong with supporting Isreal?

(08-14-2016 08:42 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 02:10 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Neo Cons are old Rockefeller Republicans. Now these names can be co opted. Biggest sign of a neo con. Old Democrats that are pro war and Pro Isreal. Kissinger is the grandfather.

What's wrong with supporting Isreal?

Jews apparently.

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They have way too much influence in our government. I think some people in our government hold a greater loyalty to Israel than America. We are not an honest broker in the region because of their influence. Just my opinion.

(08-14-2016 01:05 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 12:59 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  As a result, republicans have swung hard right and democrats have swung hard left.
I disagree. Clinton is not hard left. She's a neo con.

Neocons are leftists except on defense, foreign policy, and social issues (drugs, gay rights, abortion). Hillary is not a neocon on the social issues.

This is why I can never take you seriously.

Maybe some 19th Amendment folks ought to deal with Trump.

(08-14-2016 09:47 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 01:05 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-14-2016 12:59 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  As a result, republicans have swung hard right and democrats have swung hard left.
I disagree. Clinton is not hard left. She's a neo con.

Neocons are leftists except on defense, foreign policy, and social issues (drugs, gay rights, abortion). Hillary is not a neocon on the social issues.

This is why I can never take you seriously.

It must be frightening for you to realize that Owl actually understands the issues, which destroys the prejudices you built for self defense.