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RE: "Am I not Speaking English?"
(08-12-2016 02:01 PM)john01992 Wrote:  or maybe it really isn't a newsworthy clip 07-coffee3

sorry but if you want to say CNN/FOX/MSNBC/ABC/AOL/CBS/NPR etc. are all wrong and RT is correct, maybe you should reevaluate your decision making process.

Really??? You can't get a state-dept person to give a straight answer about a security situation.. that's not a newsworthy clip???

But when some _joke_ cracked by a presidential candidate ("Russia, please hack us"), it deserves to be full coverage for DAYS on end (including by a couple of posters on here... (not including you in that list John, just so you know).

And you don't see that as a problem with American journalism and the electorate?

No wonder our public electorate has gone to hell in a handbasket!!! (and yes, FOX is as guilty of this as anyone).
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(08-11-2016 02:28 PM)fsquid Wrote:  what is RT?

For the older generation, that's Pravda, rebranded.
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(08-12-2016 03:21 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 02:01 PM)john01992 Wrote:  or maybe it really isn't a newsworthy clip 07-coffee3

sorry but if you want to say CNN/FOX/MSNBC/ABC/AOL/CBS/NPR etc. are all wrong and RT is correct, maybe you should reevaluate your decision making process.

Really??? You can't get a state-dept person to give a straight answer about a security situation.. that's not a newsworthy clip???

But when some _joke_ cracked by a presidential candidate ("Russia, please hack us"), it deserves to be full coverage for DAYS on end (including by a couple of posters on here... (not including you in that list John, just so you know).

And you don't see that as a problem with American journalism and the electorate?

No wonder our public electorate has gone to hell in a handbasket!!! (and yes, FOX is as guilty of this as anyone).

the only "problem" I see is conservatives living in a fantasy land where everything needs to be rewritten to meet their viewpoints. they basically complain that reality has a liberal bias.

a GOP POTUS nominee implying russia should hack us is pretty *** **** news worthy to anyone who isn't a partisan hack.
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(08-12-2016 04:22 PM)john01992 Wrote:  they basically complain that reality has a liberal bias.

No, liberal bias has a liberal bias. And in your case the liberal bias is so strong that it colors your ability to perceive reality.

You will say I have a conservative bias. Yes, I do have a conservative bias--on fiscal issues. Republicans are not even remotely close to being fiscally conservative enough to suit me. But I'm also moderate to left on social issues. Not as far left as democrats--not abortion on demand, for example--but nevertheless pro-choice, albeit with restrictions. A little more depth to explain my position on this issue, as an example of where I come down. Life begins at conception, therefore the unborn have rights. But so does the mother, and the rights of the unborn don't trump the rights of the mother automatically and in all cases from day one. It's like any other legal analysis, both sides have rights. As each day of the pregnancy goes by, and as the unborn gets closer to being born, the rights of the unborn grow and eventually trump the mother's in ordinary circumstances. So I favor choice up to say the second trimester, and after that for specific exceptional circumstances--like health of mother, rape, incest, etc.

The difference is that I freely acknowledge my leanings. Where I take issue with leftists is their inability to admit their leftward biases. I freely agree that Fox leans had right. What I object to is a leftist's refusal to admit that NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, PBS, and NPR all lean hard left, and CNN leans left if not hard left.
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(08-12-2016 04:41 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 04:22 PM)john01992 Wrote:  they basically complain that reality has a liberal bias.

No, liberal bias has a liberal bias. And in your case the liberal bias is so strong that it colors your ability to perceive reality.

You will say I have a conservative bias. Yes, I do have a conservative bias--on fiscal issues. Republicans are not even remotely close to being fiscally conservative enough to suit me. But I'm also moderate to left on social issues. Not as far left as democrats--not abortion on demand, for example--but nevertheless pro-choice, albeit with restrictions. A little more depth to explain my position on this issue, as an example of where I come down. Life begins at conception, therefore the unborn have rights. But so does the mother, and the rights of the unborn don't trump the rights of the mother automatically and in all cases from day one. It's like any other legal analysis, both sides have rights. As each day of the pregnancy goes by, and as the unborn gets closer to being born, the rights of the unborn grow and eventually trump the mother's in ordinary circumstances. So I favor choice up to say the second trimester, and after that for specific exceptional circumstances--like health of mother, rape, incest, etc.

The difference is that I freely acknowledge my leanings. Where I take issue with leftists is their inability to admit their leftward biases. I freely agree that Fox leans had right. What I object to is a leftist's refusal to admit that NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, PBS, and NPR all lean hard left, and CNN leans left if not hard left.

and that is why reality has a liberal bias.
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I saw the clip several times on FOX yesterday so don't know why the repeated claims they ignored it.
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(08-12-2016 11:23 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  RT's credibility as a news source is fair game in a thread where the OP used it as a primary source. I don't think any rational person, right or left, would argue that it doesn't have a view, or that RT isn't run by a group that is supporting Donald Trump in this election.

**** me. This is from the State Dept. Not RT. We're dealing with imbeciles.
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(08-12-2016 10:59 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:57 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:54 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:41 AM)john01992 Wrote:  anyone who defends RT as not being a Russian propaganda channel or tries to say it isn't that different from CNN or MSNBC is a total idiot.

They are different. MSNBC and CNN became propaganda outlets willfully. They are whores who give it up for free.

But unless you're accusing them of doctoring the video, that's totally irrelevant to this thread.

you really struggle with reading comprehension and keep missing the point.

You don't have a point, and never did.

It would also help if you didn't use sentences that sound like a six year old wrote them.

Have some mercy, he identifies as ignorant. The poor soul.
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