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anyone who defends RT as not being a Russian propaganda channel or tries to say it isn't that different from CNN or MSNBC is a total idiot.
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(08-11-2016 02:55 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 02:50 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  You don't find **** alarming...just something else to whine about.

Quote:Former KGB officer turned political refugee, Konstantin Preobrazhensky, criticized RT as "a part of the Russian industry of misinformation and manipulation".[24] RT presents itself as a liberal alternative in the United States, but in Europe it appears to have become the flagship of resurgent nationalist parties.[175]

Linas Antanas Linkevičius, Lithuania's Minister of Foreign Affairs, posted on Twitter on March 9, 2014 amid the Crimean crisis, "Russia Today propaganda machine is no less destructive than military marching in Crimea".[176]

United States Secretary of State John Kerry referred to RT as a state-sponsored "propaganda bullhorn" and he continued by saying, "Russia Today [sic] network has deployed to promote president Putin's fantasy about what is playing out on the ground. They almost spend full-time devoted to this effort, to propagandize, and to distort what is happening or not happening in Ukraine."[177] RT responded that they wanted "an official response from the U.S. Department of State substantiating Mr. Kerry's claims."[178] Richard Stengel from the U.S. Department of State responded.[21] Stengel stated in his response, "RT is a distortion machine, not a news organization," concluding that "the network and its editors should not pretend that RT is anything other than another player in Russia's global disinformation campaign against the people of Ukraine and their supporters". However, Stengel supports RT's right to broadcast in the United States.[179]

In Russia, Andrey Illarionov, former advisor to Vladimir Putin, has called the channel "the best Russian propaganda machine targeted at the outside world".[38][93] Media analyst Vasily Gatov wrote in a 2014 Moscow Times article that sharp ethical and reporting skills are not required for Russian media employees, including RT .[180]

Cliff Kincaid, the director of Accuracy in Media's Center for Investigative Journalism, called RT "the well-known disinformation outlet for Russian propaganda".[181]

to recap: there are well over a dozen posts of cons blindly defending RT and not one post of a con having anything to say about what I posted above.

sounds about right.
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And all the commie posters are still ignoring that it's just a straight up video.

Thread is about a US State Dept Q&A, not your alls bs about some foreign outlet that has absolutely zero to do with the topic.

It's like our resident pinkos work for the State Dept too.
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(08-12-2016 10:41 AM)john01992 Wrote:  anyone who defends RT as not being a Russian propaganda channel or tries to say it isn't that different from CNN or MSNBC is a total idiot.

Maybe it is a Russian propaganda channel. There is no defending that but did they somehow change the content of the video?
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(08-12-2016 10:43 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 02:55 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 02:50 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  You don't find **** alarming...just something else to whine about.

Quote:Former KGB officer turned political refugee, Konstantin Preobrazhensky, criticized RT as "a part of the Russian industry of misinformation and manipulation".[24] RT presents itself as a liberal alternative in the United States, but in Europe it appears to have become the flagship of resurgent nationalist parties.[175]

Linas Antanas Linkevičius, Lithuania's Minister of Foreign Affairs, posted on Twitter on March 9, 2014 amid the Crimean crisis, "Russia Today propaganda machine is no less destructive than military marching in Crimea".[176]

United States Secretary of State John Kerry referred to RT as a state-sponsored "propaganda bullhorn" and he continued by saying, "Russia Today [sic] network has deployed to promote president Putin's fantasy about what is playing out on the ground. They almost spend full-time devoted to this effort, to propagandize, and to distort what is happening or not happening in Ukraine."[177] RT responded that they wanted "an official response from the U.S. Department of State substantiating Mr. Kerry's claims."[178] Richard Stengel from the U.S. Department of State responded.[21] Stengel stated in his response, "RT is a distortion machine, not a news organization," concluding that "the network and its editors should not pretend that RT is anything other than another player in Russia's global disinformation campaign against the people of Ukraine and their supporters". However, Stengel supports RT's right to broadcast in the United States.[179]

In Russia, Andrey Illarionov, former advisor to Vladimir Putin, has called the channel "the best Russian propaganda machine targeted at the outside world".[38][93] Media analyst Vasily Gatov wrote in a 2014 Moscow Times article that sharp ethical and reporting skills are not required for Russian media employees, including RT .[180]

Cliff Kincaid, the director of Accuracy in Media's Center for Investigative Journalism, called RT "the well-known disinformation outlet for Russian propaganda".[181]

to recap: there are well over a dozen posts of cons blindly defending RT and not one post of a con having anything to say about what I posted above.

sounds about right.

see, here's how you're coming off. you're terrified to address the substance of the absolutely accurate video because it's lethal, and you're desperate to change the subject to something that won't get your a$$ kicked to mars and back.

keep pounding that avoidance button. just don't think that we don't know what it means.
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Video? What video?

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(08-12-2016 10:46 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:41 AM)john01992 Wrote:  anyone who defends RT as not being a Russian propaganda channel or tries to say it isn't that different from CNN or MSNBC is a total idiot.

Maybe it is a Russian propaganda channel. There is no defending that but did they somehow change the content of the video?

propaganda channels (and partisan political channels) are an issue not just because of how they cover it, but what they cover. deciding what is newsworthy and what is not newsworthy to fit their agenda is a key component to how a channel can be biased.

you would think the cons would understand that. hence the reason I find it incredibly alarming that the cons are always posting RT. it's a channel that should be completely ignored because every click you give it only empowers Putin.
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(08-12-2016 10:49 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:46 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:41 AM)john01992 Wrote:  anyone who defends RT as not being a Russian propaganda channel or tries to say it isn't that different from CNN or MSNBC is a total idiot.

Maybe it is a Russian propaganda channel. There is no defending that but did they somehow change the content of the video?

propaganda channels (and partisan political channels) are an issue not just because of how they cover it, but what they cover. deciding what is newsworthy and what is not newsworthy to fit their agenda is a key component to how a channel can be biased.

you would think the cons would understand that. hence the reason I find it incredibly alarming that the cons are always posting RT. it's a channel that should be completely ignored because every click you give it only empowers Putin.

So are we expanding this diversion to include ALL media now? 03-lmfao
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(08-12-2016 10:49 AM)EagleX Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:43 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 02:55 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 02:50 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  You don't find **** alarming...just something else to whine about.

Quote:Former KGB officer turned political refugee, Konstantin Preobrazhensky, criticized RT as "a part of the Russian industry of misinformation and manipulation".[24] RT presents itself as a liberal alternative in the United States, but in Europe it appears to have become the flagship of resurgent nationalist parties.[175]

Linas Antanas Linkevičius, Lithuania's Minister of Foreign Affairs, posted on Twitter on March 9, 2014 amid the Crimean crisis, "Russia Today propaganda machine is no less destructive than military marching in Crimea".[176]

United States Secretary of State John Kerry referred to RT as a state-sponsored "propaganda bullhorn" and he continued by saying, "Russia Today [sic] network has deployed to promote president Putin's fantasy about what is playing out on the ground. They almost spend full-time devoted to this effort, to propagandize, and to distort what is happening or not happening in Ukraine."[177] RT responded that they wanted "an official response from the U.S. Department of State substantiating Mr. Kerry's claims."[178] Richard Stengel from the U.S. Department of State responded.[21] Stengel stated in his response, "RT is a distortion machine, not a news organization," concluding that "the network and its editors should not pretend that RT is anything other than another player in Russia's global disinformation campaign against the people of Ukraine and their supporters". However, Stengel supports RT's right to broadcast in the United States.[179]

In Russia, Andrey Illarionov, former advisor to Vladimir Putin, has called the channel "the best Russian propaganda machine targeted at the outside world".[38][93] Media analyst Vasily Gatov wrote in a 2014 Moscow Times article that sharp ethical and reporting skills are not required for Russian media employees, including RT .[180]

Cliff Kincaid, the director of Accuracy in Media's Center for Investigative Journalism, called RT "the well-known disinformation outlet for Russian propaganda".[181]

to recap: there are well over a dozen posts of cons blindly defending RT and not one post of a con having anything to say about what I posted above.

sounds about right.

see, here's how you're coming off. you're terrified to address the substance of the absolutely accurate video because it's lethal, and you're desperate to change the subject to something that won't get your a$$ kicked to mars and back.

keep pounding that avoidance button. just don't think that we don't know what it means.

and you are terrified to address why the cons seems to love RT and why if this clip was so legitimate, how come it's RT pressing it rather than the other channels? and no I don't see a *** **** thing of "substance" in this.

here is the idiotic conservative fallacy. MSNBC and CNN are too biased to be taken seriously. yet reporters grilling an official are somehow not biased and their doing that should be proof as to the legitimacy of a scandal? I swear trying to keep pace with your constant hypocrisy should be a reality TV show.
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(08-12-2016 10:41 AM)john01992 Wrote:  anyone who defends RT as not being a Russian propaganda channel or tries to say it isn't that different from CNN or MSNBC is a total idiot.

They are different. MSNBC and CNN became propaganda outlets willfully. They are whores who give it up for free.

But unless you're accusing them of doctoring the video, that's totally irrelevant to this thread.
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(08-12-2016 09:48 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  This isn't a gay thread Tom. Your ignorance isn't needed here today.

Okay, so how is complaining about the anti-American bias of RT, and pointing out the Vladimir Putin is opposed to the USA and that he controls RT somehow a "Gay" thing?

Or are you simply trying to shame me into shutting up because I have opinions and I happen to be Gay? Check your privilege.
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(08-12-2016 10:54 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:41 AM)john01992 Wrote:  anyone who defends RT as not being a Russian propaganda channel or tries to say it isn't that different from CNN or MSNBC is a total idiot.

They are different. MSNBC and CNN became propaganda outlets willfully. They are whores who give it up for free.

But unless you're accusing them of doctoring the video, that's totally irrelevant to this thread.

you really struggle with reading comprehension and keep missing the point.
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john is a propagandist. Laugh at him and... well, laugh some more.
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(08-12-2016 10:57 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:54 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:41 AM)john01992 Wrote:  anyone who defends RT as not being a Russian propaganda channel or tries to say it isn't that different from CNN or MSNBC is a total idiot.

They are different. MSNBC and CNN became propaganda outlets willfully. They are whores who give it up for free.

But unless you're accusing them of doctoring the video, that's totally irrelevant to this thread.

you really struggle with reading comprehension and keep missing the point.

You don't have a point, and never did.

It would also help if you didn't use sentences that sound like a six year old wrote them.
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(08-12-2016 10:58 AM)Paul M Wrote:  john is a propagandist. Laugh at him and... well, laugh some more.

i'm not the one defending freaking RT.
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(08-12-2016 11:00 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:58 AM)Paul M Wrote:  john is a propagandist. Laugh at him and... well, laugh some more.

i'm not the one defending freaking RT.

No one else is either, propagandist.
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(08-12-2016 10:53 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:49 AM)EagleX Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:43 AM)john01992 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 02:55 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(08-11-2016 02:50 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  You don't find **** alarming...just something else to whine about.

Quote:Former KGB officer turned political refugee, Konstantin Preobrazhensky, criticized RT as "a part of the Russian industry of misinformation and manipulation".[24] RT presents itself as a liberal alternative in the United States, but in Europe it appears to have become the flagship of resurgent nationalist parties.[175]

Linas Antanas Linkevičius, Lithuania's Minister of Foreign Affairs, posted on Twitter on March 9, 2014 amid the Crimean crisis, "Russia Today propaganda machine is no less destructive than military marching in Crimea".[176]

United States Secretary of State John Kerry referred to RT as a state-sponsored "propaganda bullhorn" and he continued by saying, "Russia Today [sic] network has deployed to promote president Putin's fantasy about what is playing out on the ground. They almost spend full-time devoted to this effort, to propagandize, and to distort what is happening or not happening in Ukraine."[177] RT responded that they wanted "an official response from the U.S. Department of State substantiating Mr. Kerry's claims."[178] Richard Stengel from the U.S. Department of State responded.[21] Stengel stated in his response, "RT is a distortion machine, not a news organization," concluding that "the network and its editors should not pretend that RT is anything other than another player in Russia's global disinformation campaign against the people of Ukraine and their supporters". However, Stengel supports RT's right to broadcast in the United States.[179]

In Russia, Andrey Illarionov, former advisor to Vladimir Putin, has called the channel "the best Russian propaganda machine targeted at the outside world".[38][93] Media analyst Vasily Gatov wrote in a 2014 Moscow Times article that sharp ethical and reporting skills are not required for Russian media employees, including RT .[180]

Cliff Kincaid, the director of Accuracy in Media's Center for Investigative Journalism, called RT "the well-known disinformation outlet for Russian propaganda".[181]

to recap: there are well over a dozen posts of cons blindly defending RT and not one post of a con having anything to say about what I posted above.

sounds about right.

see, here's how you're coming off. you're terrified to address the substance of the absolutely accurate video because it's lethal, and you're desperate to change the subject to something that won't get your a$$ kicked to mars and back.

keep pounding that avoidance button. just don't think that we don't know what it means.

and you are terrified to address why the cons seems to love RT and why if this clip was so legitimate, how come it's RT pressing it rather than the other channels? and no I don't see a *** **** thing of "substance" in this.

here is the idiotic conservative fallacy. MSNBC and CNN are too biased to be taken seriously. yet reporters grilling an official are somehow not biased and their doing that should be proof as to the legitimacy of a scandal? I swear trying to keep pace with your constant hypocrisy should be a reality TV show.

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Seriously, everyone else laughs at john too, right?
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(08-12-2016 10:54 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 10:41 AM)john01992 Wrote:  anyone who defends RT as not being a Russian propaganda channel or tries to say it isn't that different from CNN or MSNBC is a total idiot.

They are different. MSNBC and CNN became propaganda outlets willfully. They are whores who give it up for free.

But unless you're accusing them of doctoring the video, that's totally irrelevant to this thread.

CNN and MSNBC report the news. They might have a viewpoint, but they report it. I'll let y'all in on a secret, I usually am aware of any news story that is potentially damaging to my side well before it gets posted here. Because the 'liberal' newssites actually ensure that I'm informed.

Now, RT doesn't do that. They engage in clear Putin cheerleading, ignore his extreme abuses, and when busted on it, engage in whataboutism instead answering the charges.

RT doesn't break news, it emits propaganda. Propaganda with the intent of damaging the USA. CNN is a news site. MSNBC is a mix between opinion and news. Fox News is the same as MSNBC, albeit on the right. Although, I find that MSNBC does a far better job than Fox News of ensuring that bad news for their 'side' is reported on and that people who watch it leave the broadcast with an understanding of what the other side is saying and why. RT doesn't report the news.

Do you want to live in a Putinist world? Where corruption and denials of basic human rights (not just Gay rights either) is the norm? I don't.
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(08-12-2016 11:02 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Seriously, everyone else laughs at john too, right?

Personal attack.
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