(09-06-2016 08:23 AM)panama Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 04:36 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Don't fool yourselves Herman could become huge at LSU that's one school that he would be foolish to ignore

He can stay at Houston make $$$ and never be in jeopardy of being fired ever. That security would last until week 10 in the SEC.

He will also have a slim chance of ever competing for a national championship and has to rely on the AAC having multiple ranked teams to even think about it. Don't have that issue in P5.

Every big name program better hope Houston doesn't get an invite to one of the high revenue conferences b/c if we do, no way Herman goes anywhere then.

(09-06-2016 08:05 AM)PA-GAMECOCK Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 11:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Herman has positioned his program to legitimately have as good of an opportunity to win at the highest level as anyone else in the country this year. We need help to get there, but we also don't have Bama standing in our way from getting there. His salary at this point is essentially a blank check signed by Tilman Fertitta. Herman also stands to make an extra $5 million in the event we are invited to a P5.

Why give all that up to go to a place where you're on the hot seat if you go 10-2? Herman is a pragmatist. Just because a bunch of bitchy LSU fans say he'll be their next coach doesn't make it true. Their whole "Go get Herman" or "Go get so and so" mentality is so cringe worthy -- as if Herman or whoever else is a commodity to which they are entitled.

If Houston stays at the G5 level when the B-12 realignment is over (aka they are passed over for BYU and Cinn) then Herman's pay remains at what -3 million and it is easier to buy it out by the money printing P5 schools. A lot of ifs in the fish barrel to shoot at until the B-12 realignment gig is over. Good luck on the expansion issue and keeping Herman though. There are a lot of Fertitta's at a lot of big name universities with big wallets too.

Why is it 'over' if the B12 expands by 2? The B12 has been telling us for two years they wouldn't expand, and that NO ONE added value. They legitimized that position by fighting to hold a CCG at 10 schools. Yet all that time most of this board had realignment fever.

Nothing ends if they add 2 schools, then we start to beat the drum as to why they need 14 schools.

Realignment will NEVER end so long as obvious and legitimate Power Programs are left out of Power conferences... and so long as the money gap is so ridiculous. It only ends if they actually separate from the G5.

UH-OU at 11 am local time on a Saturday with many competing games outdrew UT-ND in Sunday night primetime in the Houston market. A full ratings point+ ahead.

The potential here in this city is unreal. Herman is a smart man. Plus, Baton Rouge is under water, literally and figuratively.

(09-06-2016 05:44 AM)NYCTUFan Wrote:  Hermans name is going to be tied to every significant P5 program that gets off to a slow start, that should hardly be considered news.

This

(09-06-2016 10:17 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  UH-OU at 11 am local time on a Saturday with many competing games outdrew UT-ND in Sunday night primetime in the Houston market. A full ratings point+ ahead.

The potential here in this city is unreal. Herman is a smart man. Plus, Baton Rouge is under water, literally and figuratively.

Real classy. You are really representing your school well.

(09-06-2016 10:33 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 10:17 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  UH-OU at 11 am local time on a Saturday with many competing games outdrew UT-ND in Sunday night primetime in the Houston market. A full ratings point+ ahead.

The potential here in this city is unreal. Herman is a smart man. Plus, Baton Rouge is under water, literally and figuratively.

Real classy. You are really representing your school well.

He made a joke about our governor being paralyzed the other day, as well. He seems to have a sick sense of humor.

(09-05-2016 11:32 PM)UHRedcat96 Wrote:  LSU needs to take a lesson from UT and find an OC from the Briles tree.
That O is unstoppable with the right talent. And the QB only makes reads presnap. Usually the QB does not need to go through progressions so it makes it simpler with less mistakes. It is also a run based O. And that is where LSU excels.
Blue bloods are so stubborn. They think they all can effectively run the pro-style. One can...Alabama. The rest look pretty bad. It is why college is better than pros. Move offensive diversity.

Stanford does one hell of a job running the Pro set. It's even more amazing when you figure in the academic requirements they have "against" them. The OC for Stanford is a former FSU TE,Mike Bloomgren - he'll be a head coach somewhere after this season.
The NFL will soon announce a Spring developmental league to help in develop players who come from Read Option/Spread/Pistol offenses. The QB's & OL are not transitioning quickly enough during the OTA's and camp.

(09-06-2016 09:00 AM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 08:40 AM)panama Wrote:  Strong just got carried off the field by his players. Unlikely that he is going anywhere.

One game. If they **** the bed and go 6-6, he'll be out.

Agreed, they won a home game against a cottage cheese defense. Granted that was a Top 10 ranked team but as we saw this weekend, the rankings mean doo doo

(09-06-2016 08:24 AM)isidnirb Wrote:  Impressed with Herman and his loyalty. IMO there is only a small handful of programs that could pry him away now.

USC
Stanford -long shot
Texas
OK
Michigan
OSU
LSU
Bama
FlaState
Clemson

I agree, as long as Big XII expansion is still on the table. If it is, I see Herman treating UH the same way Patterson did TCU. He will be there long enough to see the expansion topic play out. If UH is selected, Herman is probably there a very long time. If they are not selected, he is probably as good as gone to one of those schools (which ever opens up). 3 million is squat for those schools. All the talk about not taking jobs where you are in jeopardy for going 10-2? I agree it is absurd but it plays ZERO role in how these coaches view elite job openings IMHO. It is part of that level of job.

(09-06-2016 01:59 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 08:24 AM)isidnirb Wrote:  Impressed with Herman and his loyalty. IMO there is only a small handful of programs that could pry him away now.

USC
Stanford -long shot
Texas
OK
Michigan
OSU
LSU
Bama
FlaState
Clemson

I agree, as long as Big XII expansion is still on the table. If it is, I see Herman treating UH the same way Patterson did TCU. He will be there long enough to see the expansion topic play out. If UH is selected, Herman is probably there a very long time. If they are not selected, he is probably as good as gone to one of those schools (which ever opens up). 3 million is squat for those schools. All the talk about not taking jobs where you are in jeopardy for going 10-2? I agree it is absurd but it plays ZERO role in how these coaches view elite job openings IMHO. It is part of that level of job.

Coaches have ego's, he is gone if an opening comes up at LSU or Ok as he will get $5mm+. If he fails there, he can always fall back on a top G5 type job, just like his entry into UH.

What I find interesting is that UH might be better off losing to both keep Herman and get into the B12.

(09-06-2016 02:04 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  What I find interesting is that UH might be better off losing to both keep Herman and get into the B12.

Not exactly.


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Tom Herman will make more money than Nick Saban if Houston gets into the Big 12.

Doesnt Herman get a $5 million payday if Houston joins a P5.... hes already getting $3 million a year, then he'll get a $5 million bonus and I wouldnt doubt they bump his pay afterwards. Hes sitting on the most fertile recruiting ground in america.... I dont think Herman is leaving quickly. Hes in a solid position.

(09-06-2016 02:16 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Doesnt Herman get a $5 million payday if Houston joins a P5.... hes already getting $3 million a year, then he'll get a $5 million bonus and I wouldnt doubt they bump his pay afterwards. Hes sitting on the most fertile recruiting ground in america.... I dont think Herman is leaving quickly. Hes in a solid position.

If we get into a P5, he gets $5 million bonus (24 equal payments over 2 years, though who knows, maybe Fertitta steps in and writes him a check the day we were to be invited), and a "good faith" renegotiation to pay him AT LEAST the average of the top 5 coaches of whatever conference we go to.

(09-06-2016 08:05 AM)PA-GAMECOCK Wrote:  

(09-05-2016 11:54 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Herman has positioned his program to legitimately have as good of an opportunity to win at the highest level as anyone else in the country this year. We need help to get there, but we also don't have Bama standing in our way from getting there. His salary at this point is essentially a blank check signed by Tilman Fertitta. Herman also stands to make an extra $5 million in the event we are invited to a P5.

Why give all that up to go to a place where you're on the hot seat if you go 10-2? Herman is a pragmatist. Just because a bunch of bitchy LSU fans say he'll be their next coach doesn't make it true. Their whole "Go get Herman" or "Go get so and so" mentality is so cringe worthy -- as if Herman or whoever else is a commodity to which they are entitled.

If Houston stays at the G5 level when the B-12 realignment is over (aka they are passed over for BYU and Cinn) then Herman's pay remains at what -3 million and it is easier to buy it out by the money printing P5 schools. A lot of ifs in the fish barrel to shoot at until the B-12 realignment gig is over. Good luck on the expansion issue and keeping Herman though. There are a lot of Fertitta's at a lot of big name universities with big wallets too.

Yeah, but at what point does that become a non-issue? If we have a billionaire to match whatever offer anyone else can throw at him without blinking an eye, what difference does it make if they have "more"? That was the only reason I brought it up, to combat the "We'll just pay Herman $X million, and he'll come here guaranteed and there's nothing UH can do about it." mentality.

I think it'll boil down to if we have provided Herman with everything he has asked for in order to compete (we have), if he believes he can win here at the highest level (TBD, but we currently sit at #6 in the AP poll), and if he and his wife are happy in Houston, or if they would like to start over again else where.

I'm not saying he is or isn't, but I think it's a mistake to automatically assume that he is motivated the same way the likes of Graham, Tuberville, Briles, Sumlin, Fuente, etc. are, that jump at any and every opportunity. Could it be possible that Herman is of the same ilk as Petersen or Patterson? Granted, Petersen eventually left, but he passed up dozens of offers and gave Boise 8 years.

(09-06-2016 10:33 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 10:17 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  UH-OU at 11 am local time on a Saturday with many competing games outdrew UT-ND in Sunday night primetime in the Houston market. A full ratings point+ ahead.

The potential here in this city is unreal. Herman is a smart man. Plus, Baton Rouge is under water, literally and figuratively.

Real classy. You are really representing your school well.

Is Louisiana not bankrupt? Is Baton Rouge not the capital? Is the state not eroding at an average rate of a football field an hour and the loss of wetlands making flooding much much worse as the state continues to allow development in flood prone areas?

Didn't realize facts were offensive.

(09-06-2016 02:06 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 02:04 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  What I find interesting is that UH might be better off losing to both keep Herman and get into the B12.

Not exactly.


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I suppose I should have elaborated. If UH goes undefeated many B12 schools will be very scared that UH in the B12 will result in pure domination of the Houston market.....thus no B12 invite and Tom Herman heading off to LSU.

(09-06-2016 03:36 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 10:33 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 10:17 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  UH-OU at 11 am local time on a Saturday with many competing games outdrew UT-ND in Sunday night primetime in the Houston market. A full ratings point+ ahead.

The potential here in this city is unreal. Herman is a smart man. Plus, Baton Rouge is under water, literally and figuratively.

Real classy. You are really representing your school well.

Is Louisiana not bankrupt? Is Baton Rouge not the capital? Is the state not eroding at an average rate of a football field an hour and the loss of wetlands making flooding much much worse as the state continues to allow development in flood prone areas?

Didn't realize facts were offensive.

No you have no clue. They got 20+ inches of rain in a few days, every southern city would flood. LSU is a top 5, maybe top 3, job (and that does not make me happy to admit). End of story. LSU packs 90K plus every game, UH has never sold half that. LSU straight up dominates the local recruiting, it a great job.

(09-06-2016 03:42 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 03:36 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 10:33 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 10:17 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  UH-OU at 11 am local time on a Saturday with many competing games outdrew UT-ND in Sunday night primetime in the Houston market. A full ratings point+ ahead.

The potential here in this city is unreal. Herman is a smart man. Plus, Baton Rouge is under water, literally and figuratively.

Real classy. You are really representing your school well.

Is Louisiana not bankrupt? Is Baton Rouge not the capital? Is the state not eroding at an average rate of a football field an hour and the loss of wetlands making flooding much much worse as the state continues to allow development in flood prone areas?

Didn't realize facts were offensive.

No you have no clue. They got 20+ inches of rain in a few days, every southern city would flood. LSU is a top 5, maybe top 3, job (and that does not make me happy to admit). End of story. LSU packs 90K plus every game, UH has never sold half that. LSU straight up dominates the local recruiting, it a great job.

Terrible what has happened in Red Stick. Just an FYI, a few years ago FEMA declared the entire state a flood zone.

(09-06-2016 03:36 PM)CornellCoog Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 10:33 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(09-06-2016 10:17 AM)CornellCoog Wrote:  UH-OU at 11 am local time on a Saturday with many competing games outdrew UT-ND in Sunday night primetime in the Houston market. A full ratings point+ ahead.

The potential here in this city is unreal. Herman is a smart man. Plus, Baton Rouge is under water, literally and figuratively.

Real classy. You are really representing your school well.

Is Louisiana not bankrupt? Is Baton Rouge not the capital? Is the state not eroding at an average rate of a football field an hour and the loss of wetlands making flooding much much worse as the state continues to allow development in flood prone areas?

Didn't realize facts were offensive.

Hard time believing you went to Cornell. Comes off a little strong in your profile. Way more likely you have hardly been outside Texas with how tone deaf you are.