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Quote:Auburn's 543 rushing yards were the most in an SEC regular-season game. It's the seventh-most in SEC history, regardless of opponent.

Not only is Auburn playing MUCH better on defense, but they just set an all-time SEC rushing record. Don't concede the SEC West to Alabama just yet...

(10-22-2016 09:41 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 42m42 minutes ago

Quote:Auburn's 543 rushing yards were the most in an SEC regular-season game. It's the seventh-most in SEC history, regardless of opponent.

Not only is Auburn playing MUCH better on defense, but they just set an all-time SEC rushing record. Don't concede the SEC West to Alabama just yet...

It's a nice sentiment, but Alabama would have to lose twice. I'm happy we are finally getting back to a semblance of what Auburn football has always been, tough defense and physical line play, with great special teams. You should be familiar with that. Beamer at his best had the same recipe.

(10-22-2016 09:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 09:41 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 42m42 minutes ago

Quote:Auburn's 543 rushing yards were the most in an SEC regular-season game. It's the seventh-most in SEC history, regardless of opponent.

Not only is Auburn playing MUCH better on defense, but they just set an all-time SEC rushing record. Don't concede the SEC West to Alabama just yet...

It's a nice sentiment, but Alabama would have to lose twice. I'm happy we are finally getting back to a semblance of what Auburn football has always been, tough defense and physical line play, with great special teams. You should be familiar with that. Beamer at his best had the same recipe.

I thought Auburn only had one SEC loss, no? If Auburn beats Alabama, both will finish 7-1 in conference, but Auburn would hold the tie-breaker head-to-head (unless it ends up in a 3-way tie). The loss to Clemson won't matter.

(10-22-2016 10:03 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 09:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 09:41 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 42m42 minutes ago

Quote:Auburn's 543 rushing yards were the most in an SEC regular-season game. It's the seventh-most in SEC history, regardless of opponent.

Not only is Auburn playing MUCH better on defense, but they just set an all-time SEC rushing record. Don't concede the SEC West to Alabama just yet...

It's a nice sentiment, but Alabama would have to lose twice. I'm happy we are finally getting back to a semblance of what Auburn football has always been, tough defense and physical line play, with great special teams. You should be familiar with that. Beamer at his best had the same recipe.

I thought Auburn only had one SEC loss, no? If Auburn beats Alabama, both will finish 7-1 in conference, but Auburn would hold the tie-breaker head-to-head (unless it ends up in a 3-way tie). The loss to Clemson won't matter.

That's true. But what I'm intimating is that I don't see anyone left on Alabama's schedule but us with a good shot at beating them. L.S.U. could yet put up a fight. We have Ole Miss on the road next week and Georgia on the road later. While I like our chances in Athens this year, Ole Miss will be a tussle. I'm just not counting any chickens before they hatch.

The other thing that concerns me is that Alabama matches up with us well. Our defense is playing great, but so is theirs. Their defense is weaker against the deep pass than ours. Our offensive weakness is throwing the deep ball. It's going to be heckuva game, but it usually is. It's in Tuscaloosa this year, but we've won there multiple times. So, we'll see. Boy the season is flying by!

You guys have as good a shot at winning your division as anyone. Good luck!

(10-22-2016 09:41 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 42m42 minutes ago

Quote:Auburn's 543 rushing yards were the most in an SEC regular-season game. It's the seventh-most in SEC history, regardless of opponent.

Not only is Auburn playing MUCH better on defense, but they just set an all-time SEC rushing record. Don't concede the SEC West to Alabama just yet...

And Kentucky could win the SEC East. They are in 2nd. Just need to beat Mizzou, UGA at home and Tennessee and get help from 2 out of UGA, LSU, Arkansas and South Carolina in beating Florida.

Auburn-Kentucky SEC ccg would create a major meltdown at ESPN. It would be wonderful.

(10-23-2016 09:14 AM)bullet Wrote:  Auburn-Kentucky SEC ccg would create a major meltdown at ESPN. It would be wonderful.

An 11-2 Auburn would need serious help to make the playoffs, such as a 1-loss Big 10 champion, and no undefeated teams from the Big 12 and/or Pac 12. Clemson is at least a "good loss", but the possibility of a rematch may weigh on the selection committee.

Even if Kentucky somehow managed to go 10-3, they would definitely not make the playoffs.


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(10-23-2016 09:13 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 09:41 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 42m42 minutes ago

Quote:Auburn's 543 rushing yards were the most in an SEC regular-season game. It's the seventh-most in SEC history, regardless of opponent.

Not only is Auburn playing MUCH better on defense, but they just set an all-time SEC rushing record. Don't concede the SEC West to Alabama just yet...

And Kentucky could win the SEC East. They are in 2nd. Just need to beat Mizzou, UGA at home and Tennessee and get help from 2 out of UGA, LSU, Arkansas and South Carolina in beating Florida.

I met a girl from the Disney College Program who is a huge Kentucky fan. She thought the Wildcats wouldn't win last night. She is pessimistic as I am about Army football.

(10-23-2016 09:14 AM)bullet Wrote:  Auburn-Kentucky SEC ccg would create a major meltdown at ESPN. It would be wonderful.

I agree. It would be the kind of thing that might make ESPN want to break up a conference should the emerging champions be somebody like oh say, Baylor and West Virginia!

(10-23-2016 09:32 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 09:14 AM)bullet Wrote:  Auburn-Kentucky SEC ccg would create a major meltdown at ESPN. It would be wonderful.

An 11-2 Auburn would need serious help to make the playoffs, such as a 1-loss Big 10 champion, and no undefeated teams from the Big 12 and/or Pac 12. Clemson is at least a "good loss", but the possibility of a rematch may weigh on the selection committee.

Even if Kentucky somehow managed to go 10-3, they would definitely not make the playoffs.


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They aren't really very good this year, but they do have a legitimate chance to win the East. I think they will beat Missouri. UGA nearly lost to Nichols St., so its definitely a possibility in Lexington. UGA is very inconsistent. Tennessee will be a rivalry game and Florida will not yet have lost to LSU, so they won't realize it could be an SEC East division championship game. I'd put it at 50/50 that Florida loses 2 of those 4. That would leave UK all alone in first at 6-2.

(10-23-2016 12:02 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 09:14 AM)bullet Wrote:  Auburn-Kentucky SEC ccg would create a major meltdown at ESPN. It would be wonderful.

I agree. It would be the kind of thing that might make ESPN want to break up a conference should the emerging champions be somebody like oh say, Baylor and West Virginia!

The four letter network's nightmare?

SEC - Kentucky def. Auburn in CCG
Big 12: Baylor
ACC: Clemson loses twice, North Carolina defeats Louisville in CCG
Pac 12: Colorado defeats Washington
Big 10: Nebraska loses twice, Northwestern defeats Michigan in CCG
G5: Boise State loses

Playoffs: Alabama (11-1), Michigan (11-1), Baylor (12-0), Washington (12-1)

Sugar Bowl: West Virginia (11-1) vs. Kentucky (10-3)
Rose Bowl: Colorado (11-2) vs. Northwestern (9-3)
Orange Bowl: North Carolina (11-2) vs. Texas A&M (11-1)
Cotton Bowl: Western Michigan (13-0) vs. Louisville (11-2)


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(10-23-2016 03:30 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 12:02 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 09:14 AM)bullet Wrote:  Auburn-Kentucky SEC ccg would create a major meltdown at ESPN. It would be wonderful.

I agree. It would be the kind of thing that might make ESPN want to break up a conference should the emerging champions be somebody like oh say, Baylor and West Virginia!

The four letter network's nightmare?

SEC - Kentucky def. Auburn in CCG
Big 12: Baylor
ACC: Clemson loses twice, North Carolina defeats Louisville in CCG
Pac 12: Colorado defeats Washington
Big 10: Nebraska loses twice, Northwestern defeats Michigan in CCG
G5: Boise State loses

Playoffs: Alabama (11-1), Michigan (11-1), Baylor (12-0), Washington (12-1)

Sugar Bowl: West Virginia (11-1) vs. Kentucky (10-3)
Rose Bowl: Colorado (11-2) vs. Northwestern (9-3)
Orange Bowl: North Carolina (11-2) vs. Texas A&M (11-1)
Cotton Bowl: Western Michigan (13-0) vs. Louisville (11-2)


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I agree that Alabama, Washington, and Michigan are now the most likely entrants from those conferences. But I think Clemson should they lose a close one to F.S.U. will get in ahead of either Baylor or West Virginia, and I think the Eers have a much better team than Baylor.

(10-23-2016 04:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 03:30 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 12:02 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 09:14 AM)bullet Wrote:  Auburn-Kentucky SEC ccg would create a major meltdown at ESPN. It would be wonderful.

I agree. It would be the kind of thing that might make ESPN want to break up a conference should the emerging champions be somebody like oh say, Baylor and West Virginia!

The four letter network's nightmare?

SEC - Kentucky def. Auburn in CCG
Big 12: Baylor
ACC: Clemson loses twice, North Carolina defeats Louisville in CCG
Pac 12: Colorado defeats Washington
Big 10: Nebraska loses twice, Northwestern defeats Michigan in CCG
G5: Boise State loses

Playoffs: Alabama (11-1), Michigan (11-1), Baylor (12-0), Washington (12-1)

Sugar Bowl: West Virginia (11-1) vs. Kentucky (10-3)
Rose Bowl: Colorado (11-2) vs. Northwestern (9-3)
Orange Bowl: North Carolina (11-2) vs. Texas A&M (11-1)
Cotton Bowl: Western Michigan (13-0) vs. Louisville (11-2)


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I agree that Alabama, Washington, and Michigan are now the most likely entrants from those conferences. But I think Clemson should they lose a close one to F.S.U. will get in ahead of either Baylor or West Virginia, and I think the Eers have a much better team than Baylor.

You are forgetting that Kentucky and Louisville play. In your scenario one of them has an additional loss.

(10-22-2016 09:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 09:41 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 42m42 minutes ago

Quote:Auburn's 543 rushing yards were the most in an SEC regular-season game. It's the seventh-most in SEC history, regardless of opponent.

't forget
Not only is Auburn playing MUCH better on defense, but they just set an all-time SEC rushing record. Don't concede the SEC West to Alabama just yet...

It's a nice sentiment, but Alabama would have to lose twice. I'm happy we are finally getting back to a semblance of what Auburn football has always been, tough defense and physical line play, with great special teams. You should be familiar with that. Beamer at his best had the same recipe.

If this happens my household would be euphoric since my wife is an Auburn grad. I agree that Auburn is playing really well right now but the SEC is a brutal existence week to week and there is a lot of football left to be played. Don't forget TXAM has only one loss and they already beat Auburn earlier this year. On paper, Auburn certainly looks like they could run the table with their remaining schedule up to the game with Bama. In our household, the Iron Bowl is THE GAME no matter Auburn's record or bowl outlook. From that perspective, I like Auburn's chances to make things interesting in Tuscaloosa this year. We shall soon see...

(10-23-2016 04:59 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 09:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 09:41 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 42m42 minutes ago

Quote:Auburn's 543 rushing yards were the most in an SEC regular-season game. It's the seventh-most in SEC history, regardless of opponent.

't forget
Not only is Auburn playing MUCH better on defense, but they just set an all-time SEC rushing record. Don't concede the SEC West to Alabama just yet...

It's a nice sentiment, but Alabama would have to lose twice. I'm happy we are finally getting back to a semblance of what Auburn football has always been, tough defense and physical line play, with great special teams. You should be familiar with that. Beamer at his best had the same recipe.

If this happens my household would be euphoric since my wife is an Auburn grad. I agree that Auburn is playing really well right now but the SEC is a brutal existence week to week and there is a lot of football left to be played. Don't forget TXAM has only one loss and they already beat Auburn earlier this year. On paper, Auburn certainly looks like they could run the table with their remaining schedule up to the game with Bama. In our household, the Iron Bowl is THE GAME no matter Auburn's record or bowl outlook. From that perspective, I like Auburn's chances to make things interesting in Tuscaloosa this year. We shall soon see...

I'm going to go out on a limb right now: if Auburn runs the table - including a win at Alabama - they are the SEC West champs.

(10-23-2016 04:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 03:30 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  The four letter network's nightmare?

SEC - Kentucky def. Auburn in CCG
Big 12: Baylor
ACC: Clemson loses twice, North Carolina defeats Louisville in CCG
Pac 12: Colorado defeats Washington
Big 10: Nebraska loses twice, Northwestern defeats Michigan in CCG
G5: Boise State loses

Playoffs: Alabama (11-1), Michigan (11-1), Baylor (12-0), Washington (12-1)

Sugar Bowl: West Virginia (11-1) vs. Kentucky (10-3)
Rose Bowl: Colorado (11-2) vs. Northwestern (9-3)
Orange Bowl: North Carolina (11-2) vs. Texas A&M (11-1)
Cotton Bowl: Western Michigan (13-0) vs. Louisville (11-2)

You are forgetting that Kentucky and Louisville play. In your scenario one of them has an additional loss.

Even worse.

- Houston and Wake Forest beat Louisville.
- Louisville beats Kentucky.
- Virginia Tech beats Clemson in ACC CCG, after losing at Notre Dame.
- LSU beats A&M. Florida and Arkansas beat LSU. Georgia, Arkansas, and FSU beat Florida. NC State beats FSU. Auburn over Alabama. Kentucky over Auburn in SEC CCG.
- Northwestern beats Ohio St. and Wisconsin, but loses at Minnesota. Nebraska loses to Ohio St., Wisconsin, and Iowa. Michigan over Ohio St. Northwestern beats Michigan in CCG.
- AAC champ Navy loses to Army.
- WVU beats Oklahoma but loses to Iowa St.
- Washington St. beats Colorado in PAC CCG.
- Toledo beats WMU and wins the MAC.

CFP: #1 Baylor (12-0), #2 Michigan (12-1), #3 Clemson (12-1), #4 Alabama (11-1)

Sugar Bowl: West Virginia (10-2) vs. Kentucky (9-4)
Rose Bowl: Washington St. (11-2) vs. Northwestern (9-4)
Orange Bowl: Virginia Tech (10-3) vs. Texas A&M (10-2)
Cotton Bowl: Boise St. (12-1) v. Toledo (12-1)

3 of the 4 CFP participants are non-champs. Michigan and Clemson lose in their respective CCGs and Alabama doesn't even play for the CCG. Boise St. and Toledo sneak into the Cotton Bowl.

(10-24-2016 12:41 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 04:59 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 09:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 09:41 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 42m42 minutes ago

Quote:Auburn's 543 rushing yards were the most in an SEC regular-season game. It's the seventh-most in SEC history, regardless of opponent.

't forget
Not only is Auburn playing MUCH better on defense, but they just set an all-time SEC rushing record. Don't concede the SEC West to Alabama just yet...

It's a nice sentiment, but Alabama would have to lose twice. I'm happy we are finally getting back to a semblance of what Auburn football has always been, tough defense and physical line play, with great special teams. You should be familiar with that. Beamer at his best had the same recipe.

If this happens my household would be euphoric since my wife is an Auburn grad. I agree that Auburn is playing really well right now but the SEC is a brutal existence week to week and there is a lot of football left to be played. Don't forget TXAM has only one loss and they already beat Auburn earlier this year. On paper, Auburn certainly looks like they could run the table with their remaining schedule up to the game with Bama. In our household, the Iron Bowl is THE GAME no matter Auburn's record or bowl outlook. From that perspective, I like Auburn's chances to make things interesting in Tuscaloosa this year. We shall soon see...

I'm going to go out on a limb right now: if Auburn runs the table - including a win at Alabama - they are the SEC West champs.

Probably, but if A&M runs their table as well they win it on head to head.

(10-24-2016 06:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-24-2016 12:41 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 04:59 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 09:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 09:41 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 42m42 minutes ago
't forget
Not only is Auburn playing MUCH better on defense, but they just set an all-time SEC rushing record. Don't concede the SEC West to Alabama just yet...

It's a nice sentiment, but Alabama would have to lose twice. I'm happy we are finally getting back to a semblance of what Auburn football has always been, tough defense and physical line play, with great special teams. You should be familiar with that. Beamer at his best had the same recipe.

If this happens my household would be euphoric since my wife is an Auburn grad. I agree that Auburn is playing really well right now but the SEC is a brutal existence week to week and there is a lot of football left to be played. Don't forget TXAM has only one loss and they already beat Auburn earlier this year. On paper, Auburn certainly looks like they could run the table with their remaining schedule up to the game with Bama. In our household, the Iron Bowl is THE GAME no matter Auburn's record or bowl outlook. From that perspective, I like Auburn's chances to make things interesting in Tuscaloosa this year. We shall soon see...

I'm going to go out on a limb right now: if Auburn runs the table - including a win at Alabama - they are the SEC West champs.

Probably, but if A&M runs their table as well they win it on head to head.

I don't think so... If TAMU and Auburn both win out, and Bama only loses to AU, there would be a 3-way tie, with Auburn getting a win over the presumed #1 team in the final week... I like their chances. Still, I'm not sure Texas AM wins out (in which case Auburn just needs to win out, period).

(10-24-2016 07:17 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(10-24-2016 06:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-24-2016 12:41 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(10-23-2016 04:59 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-22-2016 09:51 PM)JRsec Wrote:  It's a nice sentiment, but Alabama would have to lose twice. I'm happy we are finally getting back to a semblance of what Auburn football has always been, tough defense and physical line play, with great special teams. You should be familiar with that. Beamer at his best had the same recipe.

If this happens my household would be euphoric since my wife is an Auburn grad. I agree that Auburn is playing really well right now but the SEC is a brutal existence week to week and there is a lot of football left to be played. Don't forget TXAM has only one loss and they already beat Auburn earlier this year. On paper, Auburn certainly looks like they could run the table with their remaining schedule up to the game with Bama. In our household, the Iron Bowl is THE GAME no matter Auburn's record or bowl outlook. From that perspective, I like Auburn's chances to make things interesting in Tuscaloosa this year. We shall soon see...

I'm going to go out on a limb right now: if Auburn runs the table - including a win at Alabama - they are the SEC West champs.

Probably, but if A&M runs their table as well they win it on head to head.

I don't think so... If TAMU and Auburn both win out, and Bama only loses to AU, there would be a 3-way tie, with Auburn getting a win over the presumed #1 team in the final week... I like their chances. Still, I'm not sure Texas AM wins out (in which case Auburn just needs to win out, period).

It's been a while but I'm not so sure that's how the SEC tie breaker works. I think we then expand the reach to all other conference games (still a tie obviiously) and then overall record (Auburn loses out) so back to head to head with Alabama beating A&M. I'm pretty sure Alabama wins that tie breaker. Like I said Alabama would have to have two losses as would A&M. But, we would likely land in a very nice bowl with a handsome payday.

If Alabama, Auburn, and Texas A&M all go 7-1 in conference play, then you pretty much go straight to item 2G in the tiebreakers, which is the record of each team's non-division opponents; none of the previous items would break the tie. Alabama has Tennessee and Kentucky, who can max out at 11-5 in SEC play. Texas A&M has South Carolina and Tennessee, who can max out at 9-7. Auburn has Georgia and Vanderbilt, who can max out at 8-8.

Once Alabama wins the tiebreaker, then the tie between Auburn and Texas A&M would be head-to-head.

It is possible to have a four way tie at 5-3 in the East (Tennessee loses to Vanderbilt, Kentucky loses to Tennessee, Florida loses to LSU and Arkansas, and Vanderbilt wins out in conference play). Florida wins the first tiebreaker, head-to-head among the tied teams (3-0).


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